Marches of Intimidation...

[5fish]

It's the Middle East which means survival of the fittest. The NGOs are wolves in sheep's cloths. If Israel is going to survive it can't be namby pamby.
Leftyhunter

If Israel does not become a true democracy than what was its purpose anyway... Do you think a autocracy is good for Israel?

 

[5fish]

Here we go again. Whatever.
Leftyhunter

No, this is Amnesty International detail report showing Israel has turned into an apartheid state, willingly...

 

[Leftyhunter]

No, this is Amnesty International detail report showing Israel has turned into an apartheid state, willingly...

A bunch of Pinko communists. We all ready went over that Israeli Arabs have had full civil rights since 1948 and don't even have to perform military service.
Leftyhunter

 

[5fish]

 

[5fish]

Here a thought about Ukraine/Palestine... Hero/ terrorist...

The fine line between "hero" and "terrorist"

Ukrainians are hailed for doing exactly what Palestinians get shot for. Learn some Israeli secrets, then reconsider the meaning of "terrorist"

israelpalestinenews.org

 

[Leftyhunter]

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There is no comparison with Palestine and the Ukraine. Even many Arabs have stoped caring about the Palestinians. Ukrainians don't bomb Russian children so it complete BS to compare the two.
Leftyhunter
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[5fish]

Even many Arabs have stoped caring about the Palestinians.

Yes, true... You seem to forget 1940's and the 1960's. When the Israeli military drove them off the their land. If that would be today it would be a different story...

 

[5fish]

The solution to the Israeli/Palestinian kafuffle and Federal State system... @Leftyhunter , @rittmeister , @O' Be Joyful , @jgoodguy

https://www.federation.org.il/index.php/en/the-federation-plan

The Federation Plan presents a new approach to the Jewish-Arab/Palestinian conflict. The plan calls for a transformation of Israel’s system of governance into a federal government, such as is found in the USA, Canada, Switzerland and 25 others countries. This will be a progressive regional system whereby the State of Israel is divided into cantons (empowered provinces), which enjoy a great degree of independence in managing their affairs. The Federation Movement calls for the Palestinian Authority to be disbanded (by agreement), for Israeli law to be applied, by agreement, to all parts of Judea, Samaria and the Jordan Valley, with all Jewish residents of the West Bank remaining in place. As part of this process, all Palestinian residents of the West Bank who so desire will receive full Israeli citizenship (as enjoyed by Israeli Arabs). The Israeli Federation will not include the Gaza Strip. Demographically, Jews will comprise about two thirds of the citizens of the Federation, while about a third will be Palestinians.

A Proposal for a Federal Republic of Israel

The Federation Movement advocates a new political approach to peace in which Israeli law is applied to the West Bank and Arab residents receive Israeli citizenship. The land would be divided into cant...

fathomjournal.org

The proposal is based on the recognition that the concept of separating the population into two states living side by side in the Land of Israel, which has been the guiding principle of the two-state solution, is not realistic and that a more likely approach, one that will be able to garner the political support necessary, should be based on the integration of the two populations within the framework of a federation.

 

[Leftyhunter]

The solution to the Israeli/Palestinian kafuffle and Federal State system... @Leftyhunter , @rittmeister , @O' Be Joyful , @jgoodguy

https://www.federation.org.il/index.php/en/the-federation-plan

The Federation Plan presents a new approach to the Jewish-Arab/Palestinian conflict. The plan calls for a transformation of Israel’s system of governance into a federal government, such as is found in the USA, Canada, Switzerland and 25 others countries. This will be a progressive regional system whereby the State of Israel is divided into cantons (empowered provinces), which enjoy a great degree of independence in managing their affairs. The Federation Movement calls for the Palestinian Authority to be disbanded (by agreement), for Israeli law to be applied, by agreement, to all parts of Judea, Samaria and the Jordan Valley, with all Jewish residents of the West Bank remaining in place. As part of this process, all Palestinian residents of the West Bank who so desire will receive full Israeli citizenship (as enjoyed by Israeli Arabs). The Israeli Federation will not include the Gaza Strip. Demographically, Jews will comprise about two thirds of the citizens of the Federation, while about a third will be Palestinians.

A Proposal for a Federal Republic of Israel

The Federation Movement advocates a new political approach to peace in which Israeli law is applied to the West Bank and Arab residents receive Israeli citizenship. The land would be divided into cant...

fathomjournal.org

The proposal is based on the recognition that the concept of separating the population into two states living side by side in the Land of Israel, which has been the guiding principle of the two-state solution, is not realistic and that a more likely approach, one that will be able to garner the political support necessary, should be based on the integration of the two populations within the framework of a federation.


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I don't know that's such a great idea. Last summer many Arabs in mixed cities tried to kill their Jewish neighbors. Just to muddy the water potentially tens or hundreds of thousands of Ukranians and Russians claiming Jewish heritage may very well immigrate to Israel. Not sure this movie ends. Maybe Palestians get a free bus ticket to Jordan.
Leftyhunter

 

[5fish]

Maybe Palestians get a free bus ticket to Jordan.

A bus ticket could solve the issue better than trains cars... You truly think Israel has the right to the West Bank, Golan Heights, and Gaza... only by force... The Palestinians have the right to their land too and you know there a thing we call sharing taught to us as children... You know airplane tickets to America would solve the issue too for the Israeli's... If Europe can take in 5 million plus Ukrainians we can take in 8 million Israelis...

 

[Leftyhunter]

A bus ticket could solve the issue better than trains cars... You truly think Israel has the right to the West Bank, Golan Heights, and Gaza... only by force... The Palestinians have the right to their land too and you know there a thing we call sharing taught to us as children... You know airplane tickets to America would solve the issue too for the Israeli's... If Europe can take in 5 million plus Ukrainians we can take in 8 million Israelis...

It's a bit late for the Palestians if tens of thousands of Jewish Russian and Ukranians or even quarter Jewish come to Israel they got to live somewhere and it's not going to be on the coast. What American politician wants eight million Israelis in the US. For better or worse the Palestinians are the American Indians of the Middle East with out the cool factor. Even the Arabs don't want them so Jordan is as good as it gets
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[5fish]

Old @Leftyhunter , The UN has the numbers showing Israel is an Apartheid state... Israel get 9th place and Palestinians get 122# just above the reports dystopian ranking... I hope you read the whole thing and see the Human Right abuses and Injustices perpetrated by Israel on the Palestinians...

Happiness Apartheid: UN Ranks Israel 9th for Happiness, Occupied Palestinian Territories 122nd

Ann Arbor (Informed Comment) - The UN World Happiness Report for 2021 ranks Israel as the 9th happiest country in the world, but lists the Palestinian territories as the 122nd. Yet, both societies are ruled by the same government, the government of Israel. The annual report is brought out by the...

www.juancole.com

Ann Arbor (Informed Comment) – The UN World Happiness Report for 2021 ranks Israel as the 9th happiest country in the world, but lists the Palestinian territories as the 122nd. Yet, both societies are ruled by the same government, the government of Israel.

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Palestine is only a little above the level of Dystopia.

The per capita income of Palestinians is $3751 a year. The UN estimates that the Israeli Occupation of the Palestinian territories has taken out $57 billion since 2000 from their economy that would otherwise have been there, spurring growth. The Palestinian gross domestic product would be 3 times bigger today without that interference. Israeli per capita income is $34,185 nearly 10 times greater than that of Palestine. Some of that income is produced by usurping land and resources from the Palestinians.

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Live expectancy in Israel is about 83 years. Again, Prime Minister Naftali Bennett rules both people, directly administering 60% of the West Bank and using the Palestine Authority as his policeman for the other 40%. Yet some of the population he rules drop dead 9 years before the others

Palestinians live with two kinds of corruption, that of the Israeli squatter-settlers who are stealing their land and resources, and that of the Palestine Authority, in the areas where its writ runs, and of Hamas in Gaza, which is surrounded and blockaded by Israel.

 

[5fish]

Old @Leftyhunter , your are an American maybe unwillingly one but you are. Do you not see moral harm to Israel in the Treatment of Palestinians... Your American values should demand justice of the Plalestians... even few other Americans seem not to care either... or Arabs as well... well no one in the world seems to care for some reason... for the Palestinians...

 

[5fish]

Biden declares these horrors but ignores the plight of the Palestinians... We declare Humans Rights and ignore the Palestinians... WHY?

https://time.com/5959135/biden-armenia-genocide/

US declares Myanmar army committed genocide against Rohingya

Antony Blinken says evidence shows military had ‘clear intent’ to commit genocide in Myanmar.

www.aljazeera.com

Concentration camps and forced labor: China’s repression of the Uighurs, explained

There is more and more evidence of China’s human rights abuses in Xinjiang.

www.vox.com

 

[Leftyhunter]

Old @Leftyhunter , your are an American maybe unwillingly one but you are. Do you not see moral harm to Israel in the Treatment of Palestinians... Your American values should demand justice of the Plalestians... even few other Americans seem not to care either... or Arabs as well... well no one in the world seems to care for some reason... for the Palestinians...

Have you spoken to people from South Lebanon about the Palestinians? You do know that during Black September 1970 Palestinian fighters are on film surrendering to the Israelis after crossing the Israeli border because the Jordanian Army was going to give a real heap of Arab hugs and kisses that are to die for?
You do know that other then Jordan and somewhat in Iraq under Saddam Hussein very few Arab countries granted citizenship to Palestians on a wide spread basis. Maybe that's not an accident.
That's not to say there's not Palestians in the IDF and police in increasing numbers. Palestians have to choose if they want to be with Israel or against . If they are against Israel they pay the price. Nobody is going to fight on their side even Hezbollah doesn't want Palestians in Lebanon.
Leftyhunter

 

[Leftyhunter]

Old @Leftyhunter , your are an American maybe unwillingly one but you are. Do you not see moral harm to Israel in the Treatment of Palestinians... Your American values should demand justice of the Plalestians... even few other Americans seem not to care either... or Arabs as well... well no one in the world seems to care for some reason... for the Palestinians...

On the 17.43 mark Palestian fighters willingly cross the border into Israel on during September of 1970 to surrender to Israeli troops rather then get hugs and kisses from their fellow Arabs of the Jordanian Army.
Their is a Palestian majority country it's called Jordan and it's at least seventy percent Palestian rulled by a Saudi Royal Family.
Leftyhunter

 

[Leftyhunter]

Biden declares these horrors but ignores the plight of the Palestinians... We declare Humans Rights and ignore the Palestinians... WHY?

https://time.com/5959135/biden-armenia-genocide/

US declares Myanmar army committed genocide against Rohingya

Antony Blinken says evidence shows military had ‘clear intent’ to commit genocide in Myanmar.

www.aljazeera.com

Concentration camps and forced labor: China’s repression of the Uighurs, explained

There is more and more evidence of China’s human rights abuses in Xinjiang.

www.vox.com

Because the Palestians are beyond their expiration date. The world has moved on.
Leftyhunter

 

[5fish]

many Arabs in mixed cities tried to kill their Jewish neighbors.

You seem to forget the Israeli government was using disapropate use of force against Gaza... and was killing hundreds... You truly seem its all okay... Israeli inhumanity...

 

[Leftyhunter]

You seem to forget the Israeli government was using disapropate use of force against Gaza... and was killing hundreds... You truly seem its all okay... Israeli inhumanity...

Let the Palestians fire rockets at your home and family plus try to blow up your kids with suicide bombers then get back to me on so called disproportionate force.
Leftyhunter

 

[5fish]

Let the Palestians fire rockets at your home and family plus try to blow up your kids with suicide bombers then get back to me on so called disproportionate force.

Why did you go here? You know if Israel was not stealing their land and abusing their human right there be no conflict. You know there be no bombing, rockets, or disproportion use of force. It is Israel that provokes violence... Its the better wife if the wife defends herself the husband accuses her of provoking his violence which is not true... Israel plays the same game with the Palestinians... Blowing up entire apartment buildings with a bomb from a plane is terrorism... Leaving thousand without homes is terrorism... ask the Ukrainians...