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https://archive.globalpolicy.org/ir...-/us-and-british-support-for-huss-regime.html
The CIA never installed Huessein as the dictaitor of Iraq but briefly paid him to assinate Iraqi Communist's. Huessein had much more extensive arms deals with diverse countries such has the Soviet Union,France, Brazil and South Africa then it did with the US.
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did i say they installed him? the chose him as a goon to get to the mullahs. us foreign policy usually starts with a cunning plan (© baldrick*) and ends with the usa shooting their own feet with a howitzer

Yes the US installed dictaitors to support it's intrests that's not unknown in state craft. That doesn't mean the US installed Huessein. Arab politics is a blood sport.
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that's not statecraft, that's gaga - roughly 100 years after the banana wars someone at foggy bottom should have taken notes by now

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* could of course also be kermit but i bet the frog would have come up with a better plan
 

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did i say they installed him? the chose him as a goon to get to the mullahs. us foreign policy usually starts with a cunning plan (© baldrick*) and ends with the usa shooting their own feet with a howitzer



that's not statecraft, that's gaga - roughly 100 years after the banana wars someone at foggy bottom should have taken notes by now

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* could of ourse also be kermit but i bet the frog would have come up with a better plan
No that's the truth. The US plays dirty . Superpowers play dirty that's just how the game is played.
West Germany was a big time supporter of the Shah of Iran and a major weapons supplier to the Portugese Army during the Portugese Colonial Wars of 1961 to 1975. Nations do what they think is in their best interest the US is no different.
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No that's the truth. The US plays dirty . Superpowers play dirty that's just how the game is played.
West Germany was a big time supporter of the Shah of Iran and a major weapons supplier to the Portugese Army during the Portugese Colonial Wars of 1961 to 1975. Nations do what they think is in their best interest the US is no different.
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i'd call it progress if their playing dirty acchieved anything for them - but alas us dirty tricks usually create problems that will haunt them for the next 50 years
 

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i'd call it progress if their playing dirty acchieved anything for them - but alas us dirty tricks usually create problems that will haunt them for the next 50 years
Yes the US shoots itself in the foot more often then not.
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Yes the US shoots itself in the foot more often then not.
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so why the fuck don't they learn to do dirty tricks properly or simply abstain from trying (in vain) to use them?

... it might even reduce the number of people being mad at you and thusly reduce the number of marines you think you need to sent to places most americans can't find on a map
 

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Hezbollah inflicted major damage to Israel be firing many tickets into major cities in 2006.
If you read the 2006 war it was Israel the did their social projection thing and escalated the events into a war... We not even talked about all the air strikes over the years on their neighbors and there's no response from their neighbors.

We only helped Bin Laden kill Russians the rest was all him...
 

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so why the fuck don't they learn to do dirty tricks properly or simply abstain from trying (in vain) to use them?

... it might even reduce the number of people being mad at you and thusly reduce the number of marines you think you need to sent to places most americans can't find on a map
Because Americans are stupid just like Germans were stupid fighting wars where they lost and accepting immigrants who will transform Germany which was sucessful post WWII into a an Islamic Caliphate.
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Because Americans are stupid just like Germans were stupid fighting wars where they lost and accepting immigrants who will transform Germany which was sucessful post WWII into a an Islamic Caliphate.
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engaged in whataboutery much?
 

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Islamic Caliphate.
You seem to forget that these Muslim's you so worried about will be assimilated into Western culture... We have Muslims here in America and the ones born here are as American as you or I... Western culture is powerful...
 

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If you read the 2006 war it was Israel the did their social projection thing and escalated the events into a war... We not even talked about all the air strikes over the years on their neighbors and there's no response from their neighbors.

We only helped Bin Laden kill Russians the rest was all him...
No that's not even close to being true. By 2096 Israel withdrew from Lebanon
You seem to forget that these Muslim's you so worried about will be assimilated into Western culture... We have Muslims here in America and the ones born here are as American as you or I... Western culture is powerful...
Yeah no. The new crop of Moslem Congresswoman say different.
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No that's not even close to being true
Hold on... yes, Hezbollah hsd the opening salvo... Israel could have stayed on their side of the border... it was a border clash until Israel escalated it... and then the rockets came flying...


The conflict was precipitated by the 2006 Hezbollah cross-border raid. On 12 July 2006, Hezbollah fighters fired rockets at Israeli border towns as a diversion for an anti-tank missile attack on two armored Humvees patrolling the Israeli side of the border fence.[52] The ambush left three soldiers dead. Two Israeli soldiers were abducted and taken by Hezbollah to Lebanon.[52][53] Five more were killed in Lebanon, in a failed rescue attempt. Hezbollah demanded the release of Lebanese prisoners held by Israel in exchange for the release of the abducted soldiers.[54] Israel refused and responded with airstrikes and artillery fire on targets in Lebanon. Israel attacked both Hezbollah military targets and Lebanese civilian infrastructure, including Beirut's Rafic Hariri International Airport.[55] The IDF launched a ground invasion of Southern Lebanon. Israel also imposed an air and naval blockade.[56] Hezbollah then launched more rockets into northern Israel and engaged the IDF in guerrilla warfare from hardened positions.

https://www.idf.il/en/articles/hezbollah/the-second-lebanon-war-a-timeline/

July 12, 2006
At 9 AM, Hezbollah launches Katyusha rockets and mortars at IDF positions and civilian border towns from Lebanon. Although five civilians are wounded, this attack was only a diversion. At the same time, a group of Hezbollah militants infiltrate Israeli territory and hide in a valley. The militants then ambush two IDF humvees that responded at the scene. Three soldiers are killed in the incident. Two reservists, 1st Sergeant Eldad Regev and Sergeant 1st Class Ehud Goldwasser, are kidnapped and taken into Lebanese territory.
When the two soldiers are found to be missing, the IDF sends a tank to pursue the kidnappers into Southern Lebanon. It hits an IED while crossing the border, killing the four soldiers in the tank. Another soldier comes under Hezbollah fire while attempting to remove the bodies from the tank, killing him as well. Two additional soldiers are wounded.
The IDF launches ground, air, and sea attacks aimed at Hezbollah positions in Southern Lebanon, and begins preparing reserve units
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Here how many times Israel has invaded Lebanon...

Israeli invasion of Lebanon may refer to any of several Israeli military campaigns in Israeli-Lebanese Conflict:
1985 – 2000 occupation of Lebanon...

No that's not even close to being true.
In truth we had little to do with him in Afghanistan


According to some CIA officers, beginning in early 1980, bin Laden acted as a liaison between the Saudi General Intelligence Presidency (GIP) and Afghan warlords, but no evidence of contact between the CIA and Bin Laden exists in the CIA archives. Steve Coll states that although bin Laden may not have been a formal, salaried GIP agent, "it seems clear that bin Laden did have a substantial relationship with Saudi intelligence."[101] Bin Laden's first trainer was U.S. Special Forces commando Ali Mohamed.[102]
 

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You know in Northern Ireland the Catholics support the Palestinians and the Unionist support Israel... the Unionist burn Palestinians on their bonfires... and the Catholics burn Israeli flags on their bonfires...



 

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You know in Northern Ireland the Catholics support the Palestinians and the Unionist support Israel... the Unionist burn Palestinians on their bonfires... and the Catholics burn Israeli flags on their bonfires...



You also know that the ROI is one of Israels largest trading partners.
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You know in Northern Ireland the Catholics support the Palestinians and the Unionist support Israel... the Unionist burn Palestinians on their bonfires... and the Catholics burn Israeli flags on their bonfires...



How many Irish Catholics have volunteered to fight Israel? If the IRA wants to have a go at Israeli interests in Europe that's cool the Mossad can play that game.
Did you know the IRA originally supported the Zionists?
https://thebrokenelbow.com/2014/01/03/fascinating-links-between-irgun-and-ira/
By the mid 2950s Israel and the UK kissed and made up because Israel needed trade and British weapons like the Centurion Tank the best tank of it's era and the British Metor Jet eventhough Israel was buying French Jets.
We will see what happens in the future with Ireland.
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nice article...

Their flag burning is just a political message of solidarity... The oppressor's (Protestants/Jews) and the oppressed (Catholics/Muslims). You know birds of a feather flock together...
 

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nice article...

Their flag burning is just a political message of solidarity... The oppressor's (Protestants/Jews) and the oppressed (Catholics/Muslims). You know birds of a feather flock together...
Roman Catholics should not preach about morality as they have tolerated the sexual abuse of their children and women from priest's for well over a thousand years. It's only the left wing in the US and Western Europe making a big deal about the Palestians. The Arab world has basically come to terms with Israel. Cuba wants to trade with Israel but there broke nonetheless they hosted an Israeli trade delegation. Only Iran is Israel's real concern and Iran is having to learn some hard lessons that it don't pay to mess around with Israel.
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It's only the left wing in the US and Western Europe making a big deal about the Palestians.
If you believe in our values and human rights, you cannot support Israel in any real terms. They are slowly driving the Palestinians off their land and dehumanizing them... If you are against China's human right violation of the Uyghur than you cannot support Israel's actions against the Palestinians...

The Arab world has basically come to terms with Israel.
The Arabs are willing to give the Palestinians lip service at best...

Only Iran is Israel's real concern and Iran is having to learn some hard lessons that it don't pay to mess around with Israel.
You know Iran is nothing but a made up boogeyman... Israel only exist because we exist... I like how you are a unabashed supporter of Israel even thou I have showed you their inhuman behavior towards the Palestinians... You and the world chose to turn a blind eye towards Israel...
 
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