We fought for 100,000 years...

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I have been looking at Neanderals vs humans and it seems to battle for dominance for 100,000 years... Why were we able to break the stalemate?


War leaves a subtler mark in the form of territorial boundaries. The best evidence that Neanderthals not only fought but excelled at war, is that they met us and weren’t immediately overrun. Instead, for around 100,000 years, Neanderthals resisted modern human expansion.

Finally, the stalemate broke, and the tide shifted. We don’t know why. It’s possible the invention of superior ranged weapons – bows, spear-throwers, throwing clubs – let lightly-built Homo sapiens harass the stocky Neanderthals from a distance using hit-and-run tactics. Or perhaps better hunting and gathering techniques let sapiens feed bigger tribes, creating numerical superiority in battle.
 

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We ate them and raped them and they us...


That's the shocking new hypothesis being raised by anthropologists in Spain who wonder if our closest extinct relative was exterminated in the same way as 178 other large mammals, so called megafauna, which are suspected of going at least partially by the hand of hungry human hunters.

"This is interesting because in actual fact the Neanderthal remains with cut marks are generally found in deposits full of Neanderthal artifacts and not with human artifacts," Stewart said. "This suggests they were eaten by Neanderthals."
 

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Wolves and dogs were our secret weapon against the Neanderthals... notice cats said "let them kill each other off, but those dogs picked a side"... for the doge people... @diane , @O' Be Joyful , @rittmeister , @jgoodguy , @Wehrkraftzersetzer


Dogs are humanity’s oldest friends, renowned for their loyalty and abilities to guard, hunt and chase. But modern humans may owe even more to them than we previously realised. We may have to thank them for helping us eradicate our caveman rivals, the Neanderthals.

Modern humans formed an alliance with wolves soon after we entered Europe, argues Shipman. We tamed some and the dogs we bred from them were then used to chase prey and to drive off rival carnivores, including lions and leopards, that tried to steal the meat.
 

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Wolves and dogs were our secret weapon against the Neanderthals... notice cats said "let them kill each other off, but those dogs picked a side"... for the doge people... @diane , @O' Be Joyful , @rittmeister , @jgoodguy , @Wehrkraftzersetzer


Dogs are humanity’s oldest friends, renowned for their loyalty and abilities to guard, hunt and chase. But modern humans may owe even more to them than we previously realised. We may have to thank them for helping us eradicate our caveman rivals, the Neanderthals.

Modern humans formed an alliance with wolves soon after we entered Europe, argues Shipman. We tamed some and the dogs we bred from them were then used to chase prey and to drive off rival carnivores, including lions and leopards, that tried to steal the meat.


Hey now!!! Don't mess w/ my cats, I have a barn cat named Barney he's a cute loveable playful little bastard that I let into the garage to eat. Barney's job is to catch mice and he gets Meow Mix and treats. :wub:.
 

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Sex between the two species ended the Neanderthals ... You realized most likely it was not two consenting partners... There is a theory that Neanderthal men could mate with human women and make children but not the other way around... We have not found human DNA in Neanderthal DNA... Its a good article about Neanderthals and human interactions. It seems communication between the two may have been an issue...


The language barrier may have been reinforced by the individual attributes of both species, with comparisons of Neanderthal and Homo sapiens suggesting that the brains and vocal apparatus of the species were different. The genomes of Neanderthals also show that almost 600 genes were expressed differently between our species and theirs, particularly those associated with the face and voice.

Whether or not interbreeding was successful appears to depend on the exact pair that was breeding. So far there is no evidence of Homo sapiens genetics in Late Neanderthal genomes dating to between 40-60,000 years ago.

The lack of mitochondrial DNA, which is inherited through females, from Neanderthals in living humans has been suggested as evidence that only male Neanderthals and female Homo sapiens could mate, but there is also some evidence that male hybrids may have been less fertile than females.
 

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Neanderthals' artwork on walls of caves...


 

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Here are human cave paintings...

 
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