George Washington's Thanksgiving - Abraham Lincoln's Thanksgiving - Makes U.S. a sect?

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Thanks for the valid information. Can I just say that Gaul Presbyterian, Germanic, existed, that'd be the Germanic Presbyterian Church, what about the Aztecs of Mexico Presbyterian Church, Slav Poland Presbyterian Church, East Africa, to say a Church serves to recognize nation-politics is pure blasphemy. Did you know the book of Galicians are also Celts like Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Weird! Galitian: a native or inhabitant of Galicia in northwestern Spain. Galatian : a native or inhabitant of the ancient region of Galatia in central Asia Minor. strange.
the catholic church never worked like that - it's a feudal system bishop - arch bishop - rome. some sort of regional power base would diminish rome's power so it will never happen. a (let's call him) supreme arch bishop of the germanic lands is nothing but trouble. they wanted their local dudes on a smaller scale and did what they could to keep them like that. you seem not to understand that the catholic church is the longest (and standing) power in history. fortunately their power is diminished grately by now but they aren just some dudes in robes.
 

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the catholic church never worked like that - it's a feudal system bishop - arch bishop - rome. some sort of regional power base would diminish rome's power so it will never happen. a (let's call him) supreme arch bishop of the germanic lands is nothing but trouble. they wanted their local dudes on a smaller scale and did what they could to keep them like that. you seem not to understand that the catholic church is the longest (and standing) power in history. fortunately their power is diminished grately by now but they aren just some dudes in robes.
The Nicene Church was more mighty, before an academic gives one half the positive (Catholic) Universal, and to the other half the positive (Orthodox) Original, I couldn't imagine defying the One Church belief, a Nicene belief in One Catholic and Apostolic Church, could you? This Nicene is recited in the Armenian Church or the Scottish Church or anywhere.
Study being a "Vicar of Christ" is "Representative of Christ", that means the Pope has done all the revolutionizing to be the Only One from the other Sees, the other Orthodox Churches, the Jurisdicitions in the world. The President isn't a Dictator, there is a Checks-And-Balance system, there is no Supreme Mind in good governance.
 

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The Nicene Church was more mighty, before an academic gives one half the positive (Catholic) Universal, and to the other half the positive (Orthodox) Original, I couldn't imagine defying the One Church belief, a Nicene belief in One Catholic and Apostolic Church, could you? This Nicene is recited in the Armenian Church or the Scottish Church or anywhere.
Study being a "Vicar of Christ" is "Representative of Christ", that means the Pope has done all the revolutionizing to be the Only One from the other Sees, the other Orthodox Churches, the Jurisdicitions in the world. The President isn't a Dictator, there is a Checks-And-Balance system, there is no Supreme Mind in good governance.
The Reformation was a period in history. Where the lay people after the Bible being translated into common tongues thought they new God better than the keepers of the faith the Roman Catholic Church. I told you before you are not a true Church of God unless you can link your church to one of the Disciples of Christ and not one Protestant church can make this claim. Presbyterian church is a false church, all going to burn...

Gregorian Reform - Wikipedia

Cluniac Reforms - Wikipedia

Remember the Apostles all founded Churches... Apostolic succession

The Apostles, heeding the message of Jesus Christ to Go therefore and make disciples of all nations (Matthew 28:19-20), fulfilled their mission by traveling East and West during the Apostolic Age to all parts of the known world to proclaim Christianity. Andrew, Peter's brother, evangelized Byzantium and Greece, appointed Stachys (Romans 16:9) the first Bishop of Byzantium, and was crucified in Patras, Greece. Andrew is known as the Father of the Byzantine Churches. James, the son of Zebedee and brother of John, is believed to have preached in Spain; he is the only Apostle to have his martyrdom recorded in the Bible (Acts 12:2). John, the son of Zebedee and the brother of James, was the "one Jesus loved." He is called the Theologian for his mystical writings - the Gospel of John, three Letters, and the Book of Revelation. Christ on the Cross entrusted his mother Mary to John (John 19:26-27), who took her with him to Ephesus; he was later exiled to the island of Patmos (Revelation 1:9). James, son of Alphaeus, stayed in Jerusalem and is believed to be the writer of the Letter of James in the Bible. Tradition has it that Matthew preached among the Hebrews and wrote his Gospel in Hebrew or Aramaic. Philip preached the Gospel in Phrygia and was martyred in Hierapolis, Asia Minor. Nathaniel, Son of Talmay, or in Aramaic Nathaniel Bartholomew, taught the Way in Armenia. Jude Thaddeus, the author of the Letter of Jude, spread the faith to Edessa, Syria and then evangelized Armenia. Bartholomew and Jude Thaddeus are the Patron Saints of the Apostolic Armenian Church. Thomas Didymus, or Thomas the Twin, is known as Doubting Thomas for questioning the Lord's Resurrection. But when he put his hand in the Lord's side, he reacted with a beautiful profession of faith: "My Lord and My God" (John 20:28). Thomas traveled through Chaldea and Persia all the way to India! He is recognized as the Father of the St. Thomas Christian Churches.



Apostolic succession - Wikipedia

Apostolic succession is the method whereby the ministry of the Christian Church is held to be derived from the apostles by a continuous succession, which has usually been associated with a claim that the succession is through a series of bishops.[1] Christians of the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Old Catholic, Hussite, Anglican, Church of the East, Moravian, and Scandinavian Lutheran traditions maintain that "a bishop cannot have regular or valid orders unless he has been consecrated in this apostolic succession."[2][3] Each of these groups does not necessarily consider consecration of the other groups as valid.[4]

Apostolic see - Wikipedia

An apostolic see is an episcopal see whose foundation is attributed to one or more of the apostles of Jesus or to one of their close associates. In Catholicism the phrase, preceded by the definite article and usually capitalized, refers to the See of Rome.[1][2]
 

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Who the Hell is so proud of being a Christian? Who the hell is attaining at any time from it? Who the heck tells me I choose anything? Who thinks they get to tell me to be social? People that hate me tell me to be in social medias, to beat people. There's never anything to get from anybody, there's no social connection in anything.
People are dissatisfied losing in real life make alternate social medias I have to be on. This page is all obfuscating, obscurantism , making up anyone else has any chances to not be judged. I didn't do it. I won't ever move a muscle since I'm 20 and losers will have talked about Nothing like this thing here. I don't have anything to note or regret for 13 years , surrounded by Psycho paths. You're all a mass of 1,000 psychopaths of no value, the value is at none.All I wanted was to give it my all which was total trust to everyone at all times, and you know total rejection and somewhere in the middle indifference, everyone's just some torturer, contrarian, and enemy unknown from the dawn of time, and whatever. Pretend you know anything, everyone knows less than nothing lying about knowing something to everyone already. they already do that.
 
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You seem troubled time for... Rumi...

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What about "Mi Casa , Su Casa", it means my house, your house. How important were the values of hospitality in strangers and sojourners? What Does the Bible Say About Hospitality? (openbible.info)
What a lot of it. I don't even need to lean on that "Good Samaritan".

When English Presbyterians arrived in the Netherlands , the "American Pilgrim Museum" in the Netherlands has a book called Strangers and Sojourners. Netherlandic peoples welcome English , why? Presbyterian, Puritan Reformed Pilgrim types? Most of the Protestant Reformed Netherlands was other religious refugees. What little must be known about those strangers and sojourners in hospitality?

Barack Obama's inauguration recently used the "patriotic" "My Country Tis of Thee". Notice two directions going on here. A singer named Marian Anderson was called Colored and couldn't perform or was denied at a particular establishment and sang at the Lincoln Memorial "My Country Tis of Thee", which Martin Luther King Jr. recalled at a young age like many, and said 'we will sing with new meaning My Country Tis of Thee", leading up to the Barack Obama/Aretha Franklin story, I'd assume. I assume that. The other line is that at Plymouth Massachussettes we have Plymouth Rock, Puritan Pilgrims settled in 1620, in a Presbyterian Polity, as an active faith with work to be done in it. The country has historically favored its founding populations but not necessarily anymore, depending on ceremony. Alabama and the idea of Jefferson Davis both is that Reformed Religion cooperated in contracts and agreements across States/countries/body politics who decided to ratify, the definition of Confederacy, treaties between existing states, the Westminster Confession was ratified for a short time between the Church of Scotland and the Church of England in Reformed Religion, Presbyterian Polity, Puritan simply describing the act of fully Reforming the English Church. In the idea of "two directions" you can find two very different children's books entitled "My Country Tis of Thee", I can't decide which one is more ridiculous. Are there no Responsibilities to people native to each of the lands, or is that some privilege only for a black person to attain? Why are there settled cultural patterns in the world making population centers?

That easily points at the other end of the spectrum that right now in London you could choose to Google Map a Ghanese, a Scottish, and a Welsh Presbyterian Churches all in the wider London sprawl. Such activities are completely culled in the United States with the Eisenhower United Presbyterian and the Reagan PCUSA, you won't find a one, a cultural Presbyterian offshoot. The Belhar Confession preaches no separations on race particularly, whether or not that is a National identity.

PC(USA) will never describe a Church segmentation. It seems a hypocrisy that all that Eisenhower could say is slavery, slavery , slavery, to cause a loss in the Confederate mindset of an unrelated and tangent ideal. US Citizenship is no indicator whatsoever in any understanding of Religion or Hospitality.

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@Mike12 , what is the point you are trying to make about Thanksgiving. Do you think Apostolic See would agree with Thanksgiving? Are you not worried about your fellow Protestant church brethren not part of the Apostolic Succession...
 

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@Mike12 , what is the point you are trying to make about Thanksgiving. Do you think Apostolic See would agree with Thanksgiving? Are you not worried about your fellow Protestant church brethren not part of the Apostolic Succession...
About all there is to know is Catholics feel descended from St. Peter and list their Popes from Saint Peter dated. The Ecumenical Patriarch has the Older Brother, the "First Called", St. Andrew as the Ecumenical Patriarch's ecumenical Council's Saint. Andrew the Apostle - Wikipedia Saint Peter - Wikipedia Feels like a way to confer the Church on the dumb. Feels like the Shia - Sunni split between whose the succession in Muhammad's family inheritance. Its not though. Don't embody people, its not a schism about who is next, transferring the "God Power" to an apostle.
Just put "Roman Orthodox Church" in Spain,France, Italy, Germany, now... What was it you were thinking about? I'm just curious, perform the mental exercise. Mainly the Pope decided he was "Singular", set apart, with no Equal, and the Catholic "Universal" is therefore Universal in Not performing ecumenicism, the Greek ekuminos, the relations between Churches that are acceptable and identical in doctrine, like the Reformed Synod for example, is how the Orthodox and the Byzantines attempted to view and reconcile the Western Church. ‘Better the Turkish Turban than the Papal Tiara’ - Byzantium: The Surprising Life Of A Medieval Empire (erenow.net)

If we ever were able to even understand the gestures, the mannerisms, the culture and language of the Balkans and Orthodox states which none of America has any inclination to be exposed to, we should receive more equivalency. Puritans in that article call themselves as the Iconoclasts during 700 Byzantium. Island of Rhodes where Colossus is built precedes the name Providence, Rhode Island. Presbyter is purely Greek, the holy language Greek is recognized from Nicene Christianity. The Balkan Orthodox exists in a fashion after Southern Presbyterians, the League of Nations, everyone there notes this.
 

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@Mike12 , what is the point you are trying to make about Thanksgiving. Do you think Apostolic See would agree with Thanksgiving? Are you not worried about your fellow Protestant church brethren not part of the Apostolic Succession...
It appears in America, there was first the Puritan thanksgiving purged the Roman Catholic calendar of 100s of holidays. For example Roman Catholic JFK said, "Over three centuries ago, our forefathers in Virginia and in Massachusetts, far from home in a lonely wilderness, set aside a time of thanksgiving. On the appointed day, they gave reverent thanks for their safety, for the health of their children, for the fertility of their fields, for the love which bound them together and for the faith which united them with their God. "
That recounts the Massachusetts and Virginia widely acknowledged Puritan colonies during the English Civil War.
"Puritans wished to remain in the Anglican Church and reform it, while the Pilgrims wanted complete separation from the church "
It appears the official Thanksgiving Federal holiday must be addressed. There were also 3 thanksgivings for independence by the 1776 Continental Congress replaced by later governments for the United States. George Washington's 1789 thanksgiving is the same date, I've posted that. Thanksgiving Proclamation, 3 October 1789 (archives.gov) Today, legally, celebrational, it may have a heritage from FDR Franklin Roosevelt's Proclamation of a Day of Thanksgiving, 1933 - CBN.com . Problem is that the English Presbyterian decided this themselves not an issue among the Church of Scotland, Netherlands, or Korea. You'll end up square in the Confederacy to figure out that there is equivalency among the English Presbyterian Thanksgiving and Chuseok , Korean Thanksgiving for example. I'm not aware of a Scottish Thanksgiving. So "My Country Tis of Thee" , now work on theology and ask how people born in Korea call this their "Native" land. Why would they join JFK to call their fathers an English Puritan? In the details, Aretha Franklin and Barack Obama, and is this about the Westminster Confession, the Author of Liberty? You'll surely be a Confederate before you can perform your station as seen by a Korean Presbyterian Church Abroad. That war's about the Scottish Presbyterian identifying the English Presbyterian in the "Bonnie Blue Flag".
 
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