Age Bloc Voting???

[5fish]

Does one age effect the way one votes? We know the people over 65 are more likely to vote than any other age group.

https://money.usnews.com/money/retirement/aging/articles/why-older-citizens-are-more-likely-to-vote

Some 64% of citizens age 65 and older voted in the November 2018 election, the best turnout of any age group. More than half of those ages 45 to 64 also cast a ballot. People under age 45 are much less likely to vote. Just 37% of 25- to 34-year-olds made it to the polls in November 2018. And not even a third of the youngest citizens – ages 18 to 24 – entered a voting booth in 2018.
The voter turnout by age in 2018 was:

• age 18 to 24: 30%
• age 25 to 34: 37%
• age 35 to 44: 44%
• age 45 to 64: 55%
• age 65+: 64%

Older people in some states are considerably more likely to vote than others. People age 65 and older are the most likely to vote in Minnesota (78%), Iowa (77%) and Maine (77%). But even in the states with the lowest older voter turnout – Hawaii, New Jersey and New York – more than half of citizens age 65 and older voted.

This mid term elections has an age group that will swing the election... Women over 50...

https://www.politico.com/newsletter...rtant-voting-bloc-is-still-undecided-00060947

There are 34 days to go until Election Day 2022, and the largest bloc of voters — and the largest bloc of swing voters — is undecided. Only 17 percent of women over 50 have decided whom they plan on voting for in this year’s midterm elections, according to a recent survey by AARP. This group can make or break elections: While women over 50 make up a quarter of the voting-age population, they made up 30 percent of those who showed up to vote in 2020. And 82 percent of these voters say they are very motivated to vote in November.

Here the 2020 election by age...

 

[5fish]

The Elderly are republican now... even thou they are threating Social Security and Medicare...

Juan Williams: Seniors get nothing by voting for the GOP

I turned 68 years old this year. I did not vote for Donald Trump in 2016 or 2020. I will not be voting Republican in this year’s midterms. But polls show peopl…

thehill.com

But polls show people over 65 leaning heavily Republican this November. An Economist/YouGov poll released Aug. 1 gave the GOP a 15-point advantage with this group.

Just last week, Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) said Social Security and Medicare should no longer be guaranteed as mandatory for seniors. He favors having them reviewed by Congress every year.

That fits with a plan outlined by Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) to allow Social Security and Medicare to expire every five years unless renewed by a vote in Congress. Scott, head of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, is basically calling for an end to the social safety net for my over-65 crowd.

Here is an older article showing the elderly realigning with the Republicans over time...

U.S. Seniors Have Realigned With the Republican Party

U.S. seniors have gone from being Democratic-leaning to Republican-leaning in their partisanship. The shift began in 2007, and appears to be partly attributable to differences in the racial composition of U.S. age groups.

news.gallup.com

PRINCETON, NJ -- U.S seniors -- those aged 65 and older -- have moved from a reliably Democratic group to a reliably Republican one over the past two decades. From 1992 through 2006, seniors had been solidly Democratic and significantly more Democratic than younger Americans. Over the last seven years, seniors have become less Democratic, and have shown an outright preference for the Republican Party since 2010.

 

[rittmeister]

i voted in every election i could (even for the bloody mieterbeirat and if i moved my political pov with age then it was towards the left - i'm not yet 59, though

 

[5fish]

i voted in every election i could

I think for the senior voters its a combination of ethnocentrism and xenophobia with a desire of nostalgia. The question is: if the Republicans get in power and start changing the safety social net for seniors, how will they vote then?

 

[5fish]

Here a Pew study of how and why the generations vote... @O' Be Joyful , @jgoodguy , @diane , @Tom ,@Wehrkraftzersetzer

The Whys and Hows of Generations Research

At the center of the Pew Research Center’s mission is a commitment to measuring public attitudes on key issues and documenting differences in attitudes

www.pewresearch.org

The first is the life cycle, or age, effect. When a life cycle effect is at play, differences between younger and older people are largely due to their respective positions in the life cycle. For example, young people are far less likely than older adults to vote and engage in politics. This may be because they are less informed about politics or feel they have less at stake in political or policy debates. As people age, they vote at higher rates and their level of political engagement rises. Millennials are less engaged in politics today than are older generations, but the same was true of Baby Boomers in their youth. Today, Boomers are among the most likely to vote and participate in politics.

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

why me? I don't believe in such things

voting is like the monthly work schedule

only to be belived after

 

[jgoodguy]

I think for the senior voters its a combination of ethnocentrism and xenophobia with a desire of nostalgia. The question is: if the Republicans get in power and start changing the safety social net for seniors, how will they vote then?

I hated the 50s and 60s, but a lot of seniors forget how bad they were.

 

[diane]

I think for the senior voters its a combination of ethnocentrism and xenophobia with a desire of nostalgia. The question is: if the Republicans get in power and start changing the safety social net for seniors, how will they vote then?

If either party does that, they will find out how much walkers, canes and wheelchairs can hurt! I don't think ethnocentrism and xenophobia are factors, but security is. Right now, if an elder is at the bottom of the social security paycheck, they are choosing how much to eat, how warm or cold to be, which health issue can wait and for how long. These are people who have worked all their lives but incomes were lower - no retirement money or very little. With prices as they are, there is not one extra dollar at the end of the month.

 

[jgoodguy]

Most 50-Plus Women Voters Still Undecided in Midterm Elections

Inflation and Social Security concern many in new AARP poll

www.aarp.org

When it comes to what these women voters say would benefit them most, 75 percent say they are looking for protection from Social Security cuts, while 66 percent say lower food prices and 58 percent say lower gas prices would help them the most.​

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“Women age 50 and older represent 1 in 3 likely voters, and more than half say they haven’t made up their minds yet on how they will vote,” says Nancy LeaMond, AARP executive vice president and chief advocacy and engagement officer. “That gives candidates a big opportunity to listen to these important voters and address their concerns about a whole host of issues.​

 

[jgoodguy]

If either party does that, they will find out how much walkers, canes and wheelchairs can hurt! I don't think ethnocentrism and xenophobia are factors, but security is. Right now, if an elder is at the bottom of the social security paycheck, they are choosing how much to eat, how warm or cold to be, which health issue can wait and for how long. These are people who have worked all their lives but incomes were lower - no retirement money or very little. With prices as they are, there is not one extra dollar at the end of the month.

One can only hope the GOP will start bragging on reducing Social Security and Medicare.

 

[rittmeister]

One can only hope the GOP will start bragging on reducing Social Security and Medicare.

gop = grand obnoxius party?

 

[diane]

One can only hope the GOP will start bragging on reducing Social Security and Medicare.

Boomer women are a feisty group and security is definitely a priority. A large portion of this cohort of women did the June Cleaver thing - stayed home to raise a family, only going to work after the kids were in high school. Took a significant portion of their benefits. When both are on SSI/disability and one goes, income is not exactly cut in half. The departing partner is usually the man, who was getting higher benefits because of better pay. The widow is quite apt to lose her house, car and a good portion of medical. There is a reason female elderly homelessness is increasing at an alarming rate.

 

[5fish]

Here is a article about progressive elderly folks... where are they...

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-do-older-progressive-voters-want/

This is in line with the conventional wisdom that there’s a consistent age gap in our politics today, where older voters vote red and younger voters veer blue. And there are myriad reasons why this is the case. For one, older Americans are more likely to be white and religious — two demographic groups that also tend to vote Republican. They’re also more likely to favor less government intervention and are more prone to believing that increased diversity isn’t a good thing for the country — which is in line with many Republicans’ way of thinking.

There are always outliers, though. In fact, there’s a small percentage of older Americans who said that they not only lean Democratic — but identify more with the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. According to the 2020 Cooperative Election Study, about 6 percent of Americans1 born in 1955 or before identified as “very liberal,” 12 percent as “liberal” and another 7 percent as “somewhat liberal.” This compares to roughly 50 percent of Americans born in 1955 or before who said they were “somewhat” or more conservative. But many of the left-of-center voters I spoke with didn’t just identify as liberal, they also said that it was detrimental for other people their age to consistently cast ballots for the GOP.

 

[rittmeister]

Here is a article about progressive elderly folks... where are they...

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-do-older-progressive-voters-want/

This is in line with the conventional wisdom that there’s a consistent age gap in our politics today, where older voters vote red and younger voters veer blue. And there are myriad reasons why this is the case. For one, older Americans are more likely to be white and religious — two demographic groups that also tend to vote Republican. They’re also more likely to favor less government intervention and are more prone to believing that increased diversity isn’t a good thing for the country — which is in line with many Republicans’ way of thinking.

There are always outliers, though. In fact, there’s a small percentage of older Americans who said that they not only lean Democratic — but identify more with the progressive wing of the Democratic Party. According to the 2020 Cooperative Election Study, about 6 percent of Americans1 born in 1955 or before identified as “very liberal,” 12 percent as “liberal” and another 7 percent as “somewhat liberal.” This compares to roughly 50 percent of Americans born in 1955 or before who said they were “somewhat” or more conservative. But many of the left-of-center voters I spoke with didn’t just identify as liberal, they also said that it was detrimental for other people their age to consistently cast ballots for the GOP.

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the democratic party is a right of center party, damnit - barrack obama was a country mile to the right of angela merkel (and she led the conservatives) - joe biden even more so. americans have no fucking clue what left even means

 

[jgoodguy]

americans have no fucking clue what left even means

nor conservatism, socialism, communism etc.

 

[5fish]

Well the mid term election was not a red wave but a gen Z wave...

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...swept-by-a-youth-wave-that-isnt-pulling-back/

Gen Z, alongside millennials, is on its way to becoming part of the largest voting bloc, and what we are seeing from Tuesday’s election is that they are approaching elections and politics in their own way. They care about issues more than candidates and even parties, and they are ready and willing to ask the tough questions of those in power.

Here a break down on how they voted.... notice the millennials are shifting to the right...

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/gen...-favored-democrats-stopping/story?id=93338313

According to the exit polling, 18-to 29-year-olds accounted for 12% of voters in the midterms -- the lowest share of the electorate compared to other age groups -- but they skewed firmly for Democratic candidates, a trend that has only grown more pronounced in recent years. Nationally, this age category voted in the 2022 election for Democratic House candidates by 28 points over Republican challengers. That's about the same as in 2020 but considerably better than in stronger Republican years like 2014.

Thirty-to-44-year olds were the only other age group who favored Democrats in the House this election, by four points over the Republicans, according to exit polling. This is a decrease, however, from the 2018 House races when this age group favored Democrats by 19 points and in 2016 by seven points.

Forty-five-to-64 year olds preferred Republicans in the House by 10 points and those 65 and up -- who made up 28% of the electorate -- voted for GOP candidates 12 points over Democrats.

 

[5fish]

Here is a great showing how we boomers have created Age Block control...

 

[5fish]

I have learned in Europe the youth is voting for the Right Wing parties. While in America and Britain, the youth are still voting for the Left-wing party...

It seems in this century all of the European nations will become Fascist Nations. What is going one?

Here is a look at Central Europe...

Why Central Europe’s youth roll right

The appeal of a new anti-establishment nationalism takes root among the newest voters in Visegrad countries.

www.politico.eu

And earlier this year in Slovakia, almost a quarter of first-time voters chose the People’s Party-Our Slovakia, an anti-Western, extreme-right group whose leader, Marian Kotleba, has openly expressed admiration for the country’s wartime pro-Nazi regime. Among the Slovak population as a whole, Kotleba only got 8 percent of the vote.

Here is Germany Youth voting right-wing...

‘Our government forgot young people’: German youth flock to Greens and FDP

Large numbers of under-25s deserted the once dominant SPD and CDU in Germany’s election

www.ft.com

Young Germans flocked to the FDP and Greens last Sunday, with 44 per cent of under-25s voting for them. The trend reflects the demand for change from a younger generation that feels ignored both by Angela Merkel’s centre-right Christian Democrats (CDU), who endured their worst electoral result in history, and the centre-left Social Democrats (SPD), who eked out a narrow win.

Here is a look at America and the UK...

Millennials are shattering the oldest rule in politics

Western conservatives are at risk from generations of voters who are no longer moving to the right as they age

www.ft.com

“If you are not a liberal at 25, you have no heart. If you are not a conservative at 35 you have no brain.” underscoring the well-established rule that as people grow older, they tend to become more conservative.

Millennials — born between 1981 and 1996 — started out on the same trajectory, but then something changed. The shift has striking implications for the UK’s Conservatives and US Republicans, who can no longer simply rely on their base being replenished as the years pass.

 

[5fish]

Why? @rittmeister , @Wehrkraftzersetzer , @alexjack , @jgoodguy , @O' Be Joyful

Recap of 2022 elections in Europe...

 

[jgoodguy]

In many cases the Right in Europe is left of the US Democrats.