The Case for Reparations

Jim Klag · Nov 22, 2020

byron ed said:
Real reliable source there. Here it is as of today:

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That was posted two weeks ago, genius.

byron ed · Nov 22, 2020

Jim Klag said:
That was posted two weeks ago, genius.

And yet by today...poof! Makes my point.

Kirk's Raider's · Nov 22, 2020

byron ed said:
Real reliable source there. Here it is as of today:

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My source was reliable at the time I posted it. I didn't say Trump would win Virginia but at that moment it seemed possible. I have noted that while Biden did win the majority of popular votes by a decent margin that doesn't count. Electoral votes count and Biden won Wisconsin, Arizona and Georgia by very thin margins.
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Jim Klag · Nov 22, 2020

Kirk's Raider's said:
My source was reliable at the time I posted it. I didn't say Trump would win Virginia but at that moment it seemed possible. I have noted that while Biden did win the majority of popular votes by a decent margin that doesn't count. Electoral votes count and Biden won Wisconsin, Arizona and Georgia by very thin margins.
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You are correct, sir. Every news outlet in the country was saying exactly the same thing on the night of November 3. Anyone should have known that.

byron ed · Nov 22, 2020

Kirk's Raider's said:
My source was reliable at the time I posted it...

Wanting a result so badly doesn't excuse lack of basic vetting. We're all aware the Russians, Chinese and Iranians are seeding the internet during this election cycle -- and that's not some conspiracy theory from "pullmyfinger.com" or whatever.

Jim Klag · Nov 22, 2020

byron ed said:
Wanting a result doesn't excuse lack of basic vetting. The Russians, Chinese and Iranians are seeding the internet during this election. That's not a conspiracy theory from "pullmyfinger.com" or whatever.

Just shut up.

byron ed · Nov 22, 2020

Jim Klag said:
Just shut up.

Calm down, son. I was pulling your leg with the "who doesn't know that" thing; just like you've been pulling legs with the "Genius" thing.

Both occurrences are mildly humorous, but think nothing more of it.

Reparations for slavery are easy to dismiss, hard to make the case for. If the easy thing were what this Country's always been about, where would we be today? We'd be European.

Jim Klag · Nov 23, 2020

byron ed said:
Calm down, son. I was pulling your leg with the "who doesn't know that" thing; just like you've been pulling legs with the "Genius" thing.

Both occurrences are mildly humorous, but think nothing more of it.

Reparations for slavery are easy to dismiss, hard to make the case for. If the easy thing were what this Country's always been about, where would we be today? We'd be European.

I'm telling you to shut up about kirk's post. What he posted and you are mocking was exactly correct election information at the time and date he posted it and the sad thing is you didn't know it because you were so busy trying to score some imaginary point. And, by the way, genius - I wasn't pulling anyone's leg.

byron ed · Nov 23, 2020

Jim Klag said:
I'm telling you to shut up about kirk's post. What he posted and you are mocking was exactly correct election information at the time and date he posted it and the sad thing is you didn't know it because you were so busy trying to score some imaginary point. And, by the way, genius - I wasn't pulling anyone's leg.

Right, as if LiveElections.com has been a reliable source for years, right up there with the The Pew Charitable Trusts by reputation.

Now tell us that you'd heard of it yourself before this thread. oops.

Kirk's Raider's · Nov 23, 2020

byron ed said:
Wanting a result so badly doesn't excuse lack of basic vetting. We're all aware the Russians, Chinese and Iranians are seeding the internet during this election cycle -- and that's not some conspiracy theory from "pullmyfinger.com" or whatever.

Why do you like to pick fights after you got kicked out of the website that we dare not say its name? My source was " live elections .com" which gets their information from the Associated Press. I never supported Trump but living in California that doesn't matter.
I merely made an observation that with 58 percent of the Virginia voting counted and Trump ahead by 500 k votes Trump could win Virginia. Fortunately he did not. Why exactly would Iran or China want a maniac like Trump to win?
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Kirk's Raider's · Nov 23, 2020

byron ed said:
Right, as if LiveElections.com has been a reliable source for years. Right up there with the majors as far as polling.

Now tell us that you yourself had heard of it long before this thread. oops.

Live elections does not do polling but merely records the vote progress in real time. Something's eating you .
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Jim Klag · Nov 23, 2020

byron ed said:
Right, as if LiveElections.com has been a reliable source for years. Right up there with the majors as far as polling.

Now tell us that you yourself had heard of it long before this thread. oops.

I almost exclusively follow AP at election time because they have the best track record of all the news organizations. I believe that site was an election outlet using AP data. Admit it. You were just trying to score a point at Kirk's expense and you didn't look at the date/time of that post before you mocked it. Then, like the jerk you are, you doubled down and remocked him for not vetting his source when you were caught stepping on your weenie.

byron ed · Nov 23, 2020

Kirk's Raider's said:
...Why exactly would Iran or China want a maniac like Trump to win?...

Exactly the sort of thing to be asking when vetting sources.

And btw, if the info actually came from the AP why didn't you post that as the source? Perhaps because it wasn't framed in the way you were looking for?

But what do I know? It's your call. That is, unless you've conceded that to "he who must be heard."

Jim Klag · Nov 23, 2020

byron ed said:
Exactly the sort of thing to be asking when vetting sources.

And btw, if the info actually came from the AP why didn't you post that as the source? Perhaps because it wasn't framed in the way you were looking for?

But what do I know? It's your call. That is, unless you've conceded that to "he who must be heard."

I said shut up.

Kirk's Raider's · Nov 23, 2020

byron ed said:
Exactly the sort of thing to be asking when vetting sources.

And btw, if the info actually came from the AP why didn't you post that as the source? Perhaps because it wasn't framed in the way you were looking for?

But what do I know? It's your call. That is, unless you've conceded that to "he who must be heard."

What's with the projections?
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Jim Klag · Nov 23, 2020

byron ed said:
Exactly the sort of thing to be asking when vetting sources.

And btw, if the info actually came from the AP why didn't you post that as the source? Perhaps because it wasn't framed in the way you were looking for?

But what do I know? It's your call. That is, unless you've conceded that to "he who must be heard."

Because, genius, he posted a screen image from the election results site. And who the fuck made you source monitor? You seldom cite a source yourself. You probably don't know how.

byron ed · Nov 23, 2020

Kirk's Raider's said:
Live elections does not do polling but merely records the vote progress in real time...

How would we know that? Can't find that LiveElections.com ever existed apart from your cite. Help us out here.

Jim Klag · Nov 23, 2020

byron ed said:
How would we know that? Can't find that LiveElections.com ever existed apart from your cite. Help us out here.

Bye. You're banned. 4 hours or until the boss lets you out.

Kirk's Raider's · Nov 23, 2020

byron ed said:
How would we know that? Can't find that LiveElections.com ever existed apart from your cite. Help us out here.

My bad just type " live elections results".
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jgoodguy · Nov 23, 2020

diane said:
But byron ed...JGG is moderator MUY grande.

A favorite of mine.

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