Boomers Going Homeless...

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A generation that is about to handoff 84 trillion dollars of wealth to the next generation is goin homeless as well...

From 2007 through 2017, the percentage of people 51 and older in homeless shelters rose from 16.5% to 23%, a rate greater than what would be expected just from the increase in people of that age group.


Data from the Department of Housing and Urban Development obtained by The Wall Street Journal showed that adults 65 and older comprised the fastest-growing portion of homeless Americans.
 

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The great wealth transfer will be limited to a few...

 

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Older boomers are wealthier than the younger boomers in their 60s...

Other research has pointed out discrepancies in baby boomer wealth. The oldest members of the generation, now in their mid- to late-seventies, hold far more wealth than their younger counterparts, according to Federal Reserve data


That’s because “late” baby boomers, now in their early 60s, also came of age during “major economic upheaval and adverse labor market conditions,” the researchers write. They were also hit hard during the Great Recession.
 

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The fires in California do not help. There is a very large homeless encampment on a hillside in town - it grew up after three fires burned through small communities. These little places have many elders who bought their homes decades ago, many of them trailers with a bit of property - those homes are gone and social security will not pay enough to rent another place. Probably about half of the people in the homeless encampment are elders or late middle age. You don't start over at that stage of life.
 

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More bad news for Boomers like me... have been forgotten... the link has a video...


The new research, which analyzed national data from almost 14,000 50-70-year-olds and interviews with more than 90 people from this age group, found that financial inequality in this cohort has increased dramatically since the turn of the millennium. The richest people in their 50s and 60s today are twice as wealthy as the richest in this age group were 16 years before, while the poorest are almost a third poorer. One in five say they will be unable to meet their future financial needs in old age – with a decline in homeownership meaning that many will be unable to rely on housing assets in later life. Gender inequality is also significant: by any measure of wealth, women are approximately 10% worse off than men.
 

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Here is one article with more details on why later boomers have little money... it has charts and graphs...


Late Boomers have less retirement wealth than earlier cohorts, including surprisingly low 401(k) assets.
The results show that part of the drop is due to a decline in the share of Late Boomers who are White, married, and have college degrees.
 

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Boomers more why I will be homeless by 70...

 

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Here is a podcast video and 401k a revolutionary mistake... Is it failing?

 

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The Great 401K experiment is a failure... It was supposed to be in retirement... If you were to get a pension from work, you would get Social Security and 401K was supposed to be Icing on the cake... It becomes the cake with no icing... for the high-income workers...

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/teresa-ghilarducci-why-the-401k-is-a-failed-experiment/

ERISA, the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974, was passed after many people lost their pensions after many years of work, and they were promised pensions, but the company went bankrupt, and there wasn’t actually any funds to back up the promise.

“The 401(k) … is one of the only products that Americans buy that they don’t know the price of it. It’s also one of the products that Americans buy that they don’t even know its quality or know how to judge its quality. It’s one of the products that Americans buy that they don’t know its danger.”

“It’s not the fault of people that they don’t have enough savings in their individual retirement account or their 401(k)s. It’s the fault of the system, and the whole system needs to be reformed.”
 

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Wall Street wants your rent...


We will never own our homes in the future...


Democrats want to change this...

 

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Our kids will live in the land of renters... Hedge Fund, Billionaires like Bezos( he owns 500 million in single-family homes), and Musk is not far behind...


The American Dream will be to be a renter...
 

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Here is a great article about income inequality in America... It explains why Boomers are going homeless... It has great charts and figure 9 is an interesting one...


Our country has suffered from rising income inequality and chronically slow growth in the living standards of low- and moderate-income Americans. This disappointing living-standards growth—which was in fact caused by rising income inequality—preceded the Great Recession and continues to this day.
 

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Here is why I and my kids will never own a home ... Rise of a nobility class... Renting the America dream ..


 

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All cash purchases are keeping people out of the market...

Share of U.S. home purchases made with cash
Estimate based on 40 of the most populous metro areas; Monthly, January 2011 to February 2024
A line chart that shows the percentage of U.S. home purchases made with cash from January 2011 to February 2024. The percentage fluctuates between a low of 20.19% in April 2020 and a high of 38.02% in February 2013. The trend shows a general increase in cash purchases since 2020 with 34.5% of home purchases made with cash in February 2024.
34.5%
 

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The American Dream is becoming only an Upper-class dream...


So, the competition for homes continues. This is the market reality now. In 1960, more two-thirds of U.S. adults could buy homes. Today, only 43% of U.S. adults can afford real estate.

By 2022, Redfin’s chief economist was telling CBS that “the middle-class dream of homeownership” was “fading away,” and that owning a home is now a “signifier of the upper class.”
 

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The Great 401K experiment is a failure... It was supposed to be in retirement... If you were to get a pension from work, you would get Social Security and 401K was supposed to be Icing on the cake... It becomes the cake with no icing... for the high-income workers...

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/teresa-ghilarducci-why-the-401k-is-a-failed-experiment/

ERISA, the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974, was passed after many people lost their pensions after many years of work, and they were promised pensions, but the company went bankrupt, and there wasn’t actually any funds to back up the promise.

“The 401(k) … is one of the only products that Americans buy that they don’t know the price of it. It’s also one of the products that Americans buy that they don’t even know its quality or know how to judge its quality. It’s one of the products that Americans buy that they don’t know its danger.”

“It’s not the fault of people that they don’t have enough savings in their individual retirement account or their 401(k)s. It’s the fault of the system, and the whole system needs to be reformed.”
It’s true … I blew through my 401 K after my first retirement. Lucky I have a gold plated pension and have debt paid off. The Social Security is like a Ponzi scheme. I don’t see how anyone can live a good life with just a once a month check from Unce Sugar.
 

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It’s true … I blew through my 401 K after my first retirement. Lucky I have a gold plated pension and have debt paid off. The Social Security is like a Ponzi scheme. I don’t see how anyone can live a good life with just a once a month check from Unce Sugar.
That's the truth. More like Uncle Saccharin - it's fake sugar. And a 1.4 percent COLA is plain insulting. Not only is the rent too damn high, the food, heating, clothing and medical is, too! And, to add to it, quite a lot of late Boomers don't have children - without family at all in many cases. Social Security was not meant to cover the full lifespan of a lot of people - most died in their 50s - but Boomers are living a long time, just like their parents before. Apparently the architects of this system didn't account for that!
 

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That's the truth. More like Uncle Saccharin - it's fake sugar. And a 1.4 percent COLA is plain insulting. Not only is the rent too damn high, the food, heating, clothing and medical is, too! And, to add to it, quite a lot of late Boomers don't have children - without family at all in many cases. Social Security was not meant to cover the full lifespan of a lot of people - most died in their 50s - but Boomers are living a long time, just like their parents before. Apparently the architects of this system didn't account for that!
Don’t get me started as I suffer from Congressional brakes on Feds pension. You work and pay your dime to Social Security before government work, part time work while a Fed, and after retirement… 40 quarters for me and not a dime so maybe not Uncle Sac or Sug but more like Uncle Scrouge McDuck and it’s quackers.

The FERS model could be tried with a tri legged stool of Social Security, a paid into mini pension and a 401K. Better yet a four wheeler with gold for stability. Or just like me …retire and work towards a pension somewhere else. I also like the idea of a baseline income and if you go out and work you can move out of the family folks basement. This is a sociological trend back towards multi generational house holds and it certainly stunts the growth of the millennials. If we look at The Great Recession and Covid as kind of the mile markers as 9/11 was for travel and security - the gig economy.

We do not see what we the baby boomers did with gas rationing or Volker interest rates. For those out on their own with a shortage of affordable housing comes the rise of the gig economy in which one may or may not work at three or four mini jobs. Or try organizied panhandling. So you can work till you drop or work and stop or any number of variations that can be good for flexibility and you always pay yourself first.

I fear the days of the pension and social security are coming to an end. A higher advanced degree funded my retirements. For those coming up it may not be the best path.
 
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