The Massacre that started the Alt-Right

There is a great article on Politico Magazine which I found on Real Clear Politics about the 1979 Greensboro North Carolina Massacre on November 3rd where a group of Nazis and Klan members shoot and killed Communist demonstrators.
At one time the KKK and Nazis were not friendly post WW2 but that definitely changed. The KKK and Nazis were friendly with each other before WW2.
The author makes a convincing argument that the rise of the Republican Party post Greensboro Massacre was not a coincidence.
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The author makes a convincing argument that the rise of the Republican Party post Greensboro Massacre was not a coincidence.
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Here Reagan 1980 speech in Philadelphia, Mississippi. It was a dog whistle for the far right group of that day that will morph into the alt right of today... Later Reagan creates the false Black welfare queen... All modern racist politics lead back to Reagan...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan's_Neshoba_County_Fair_"states'_rights"_speech

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Not good with posting links but just google Greensboro North Carolina Massacre Politico Magazine and it pops right up.
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Kirk's Raider's said:

Not good with posting links but just google Greensboro North Carolina Massacre Politico Magazine and it pops right up.
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Here is the link to that article with photos...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.po...nsboro-massacre-white-nationalism-klan-229873

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Here is the link to that article with photos...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.po...nsboro-massacre-white-nationalism-klan-229873

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Some of those that killed folks were "very fine people" I... am sure.

O' Be Joyful said:

Some of those that killed folks were "very fine people" I... am sure.

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The jury thought so.
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5fish said:

Here Reagan 1980 speech in Philadelphia, Mississippi. It was a dog whistle for the far right group of that day that will morph into the alt right of today... Later Reagan creates the false Black welfare queen... All modern racist politics lead back to Reagan...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan's_Neshoba_County_Fair_"states'_rights"_speech

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Those are ridiculous claims, in my opinion. I'm not sure what is more ridiculous, the first bolded, or the second.

Historically, the majority of racist political policies, have been supported by Democrats. How many Republican Klan members can you cite, in our lifetime..? Sen Byrd was a Democrat. He just died/left office, in 2010.

I know my opinions aren't popular here but, I just don't buy into all this racist republican nonsense. The republican party has done more for minorities in this country than the democrats ever have. I believe the historical record, over propaganda, & spin ....

Viper21 said:

know my opinions aren't popular here

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But welcomed, Variety is the spice of life...or so I have been told, other than being banned from "there" for expressing my own.

Viper21 said:

I just don't buy into all this racist republican nonsense.

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I did not believe it either, until I looked into it more deeply. As a life long Republican, it took orange to turn me Blue.

Viper21 said:

Those are ridiculous claims, in my opinion. I'm not sure what is more ridiculous, the first bolded, or the second.

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First, I think you missed the modern in my post... yes, if you go back far enough the Democrats were the "White man's party" but that was long ago and today its the party od diversity and multicultural...

Viper21 said:

Historically, the majority of racist political policies, have been supported by Democrats. How many Republican Klan members can you cite, in our lifetime..? Sen Byrd was a Democrat. He just died/left office, in 2010.

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Second, I am saddened when I visit the Republican Hall of Fame(Goggle it) and I see all these great liberal and progressive people of our nation's past, that was long ago. It was the election of 1920 when the Republican party tossed aside progressive politics and embrace conservative politics mainly business-friendly... here a book on it...

1920: The Year of the Six Presidents

Viper21 said:

I know my opinions aren't popular here but, I just don't buy into all this racist republican nonsense. The republican party has done more for minorities in this country than the Democrats ever have. I believe the historical record, over propaganda, & spin ....

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Last, Why do you think Reagan went to Philadelphia, MS. an out of away place to announce his run for President( home state was CA.). Because Philadelphia, MS. was the center of civil rights fights in the 1960s, remember the movie Mississippi Burning. His State Rights speech there was his way of telling the Southern Whites he was with them and against Civil Rights.

Note: David Duke endorsed Reagan ...

Note: Reagan false Welfare Queen Trop ...

These are three racist acts that point that Reagan run for President was the beginning of the Republican parties embrace of racist themes...

Note: Jesse Helms used racist tropes in his Senate runs for office...

Note: Strom Thurmond which to the Republican party...

Like 1920 election was when the Republican party embraced conservatism in the 1980 election the party embraced race anxiety voters( PC term for them) ...

O' Be Joyful said:

I did not believe it either until I looked into it more deeply. As a life long Republican

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Sadly, you missed the party's early embrace of race anxiety voters...

O' Be Joyful said:

But welcomed, Variety is the spice of life...or so I have been told.

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I appreciate that OBJ. I think you're a decent person, & sincerely hope to have a beer with you one day.

5fish said:

First, I think you missed the modern in my post... yes, if you go back far enough the Democrats were the "White man's party" but that was long ago and today its the party od diversity and multicultural...



Second, I am saddened when I visit the Republican Hall of Fame(Goggle it) and I see all these great liberal and progressive people of our nation's past, that was long ago. It was the election of 1920 when the Republican party tossed aside progressive politics and embrace conservative politics mainly business-friendly... here a book on it...

1920: The Year of the Six Presidents

Last, Why do you think Reagan went to Philadelphia, MS. an out of away place to announce his run for President( home state was CA.). Because Philadelphia, MS. was the center of civil rights fights in the 1960s, remember the movie Mississippi Burning. His State Rights speech there was his way of telling the Southern Whites he was with them and against Civil Rights.

Note: David Duke endorsed Reagan ...

Note: Reagan false Welfare Queen Trop ...

These are three racist acts that point that Reagan run for President was the beginning of the Republican parties embrace of racist themes...

Note: Jesse Helms used racist tropes in his Senate runs for office...

Note: Strom Thurmond which to the Republican party...

Like 1920 election was when the Republican party embraced conservatism in the 1980 election the party embraced race anxiety voters( PC term for them) ...



Sadly, you missed the party's early embrace of race anxiety voters...

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The DNC has successfully convinced millions of people that the elephants are racist. Worse than that, there are a bunch of people in this country that automatically assume someone is racist, if they are republican, & or white. Shameful in my opinion.

Just because a bunch of sheep buy into something doesn't make it so. There's a lot of hateful people in this country that punch the blue box on election day. They are ignored by the media, & most of the people attempting to point their racist finger at folks who prefer the red box. It's nonsense. It's all political grandstanding attempting to garner votes. In it's most simplistic definition, it's pandering to obtain, & retain power (& control over the $$$).

Division is beneficial to politicians. They constantly feed it, as the sheep gobble it up.

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Sadly, you missed the party's early embrace of race anxiety voters...

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Yes, but then it was mainly about fiscal responsibility, Soviet containment, Ike, etc. The others were ignored, minimalized and not fully recognized by me and considered minor at the time, in the larger sense. Now, things have changed. It is true that I did not see certain signs.

To me it was still the party of Lincoln and that of my great-grandfather who fought for the Union. Loyalties die hard, which can be a lesson for those whom wish to delve deeper and learn.

Viper21 said:

a bunch of sheep

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Require a ram. And take it from an old sheep-herder, they--sheep, the animal kind-- ain't as stupid as they are popularly portrayed.

O' Be Joyful said:

Some of those that killed folks were "very fine people" I... am sure.

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The City of Greensboro but not the murder's paid one survivor $351k in an out of court settlement with out admitting guilt. The money was divided among the survivors. Off hand 351k in 1979 dollars is roughly one million dollars in 2019.
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Viper21 said:

Those are ridiculous claims, in my opinion. I'm not sure what is more ridiculous, the first bolded, or the second.

Historically, the majority of racist political policies, have been supported by Democrats. How many Republican Klan members can you cite, in our lifetime..? Sen Byrd was a Democrat. He just died/left office, in 2010.

I know my opinions aren't popular here but, I just don't buy into all this racist republican nonsense. The republican party has done more for minorities in this country than the democrats ever have. I believe the historical record, over propaganda, & spin ....

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Not even close. LBJ did more for African Americans then any President since Lincoln. Nobody has done more before or since LBJ.
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Viper21 said:

The DNC has successfully convinced millions of people that the elephants are racist. Worse than that, there are a bunch of people in this country that automatically assume someone is racist, if they are republican, & or white. Shameful in my opinion.

Just because a bunch of sheep buy into something doesn't make it so. There's a lot of hateful people in this country that punch the blue box on election day. They are ignored by the media, & most of the people attempting to point their racist finger at folks who prefer the red box. It's nonsense. It's all political grandstanding attempting to garner votes. In it's most simplistic definition, it's pandering to obtain, & retain power (& control over the $$$).

Division is beneficial to politicians. They constantly feed it, as the sheep gobble it up.

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When exactly did we have a nation that wasn't divided?
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Kirk's Raider's said:

When exactly did we have a nation that wasn't divided?

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The "closest" I can think of is WWII.

Kirk's Raider's said:

Not even close. LBJ did more for African Americans then any President since Lincoln. Nobody has done more before or since LBJ.
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LBJ couldn't have signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, without the Republicans. A larger % of Republicans voted for that legislation, than Dems. What did Byrd spend, 14 hours filibustering it..??

Viper21 said:

LBJ couldn't have signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, without the Republicans. A larger % of Republicans voted for that legislation, than Dems. What did Byrd spend, 14 hours filibustering it..??

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“It is an important gain, but I think we just delivered the South to the Republican Party for a long time to come,” Johnson, a Democrat, purportedly told an aide later that day in a prediction that would largely come true.

Because the vast majority switched parties and became Republicans.