OT Are these Black Confederates? Why? or Why not?

Viper21 · Sep 20, 2019

jgoodguy said:
Looks to be a Confederate to me, but was he a 'Black Confederate'.

Was Obama a Black President..?

jgoodguy · Sep 20, 2019

Viper21 said:
Was Obama a Black President..?

Was he enlisted in the CSA army? Oh wait. Mo durn politics?

Tom · Sep 20, 2019

jgoodguy said:
We are doing 'Black Confederates' not Black USCT.
So what? Are tanned folks black?

Just using the same rules as TeenCan uses.

Viper21 · Sep 20, 2019

jgoodguy said:
Was he enlisted in the CSA army? Oh wait. Mo durn politics?

No surprise. I didn't figure on getting a straight answer....

jgoodguy · Sep 20, 2019

Viper21 said:
No surprise. I didn't figure on getting a straight answer....

Interesting point. Is 'Black Confederate' a rhetorical 20th-21st-century politicaly correct term unrelated to the 19th century Civil War. Is modern presentism to be used to determine what a 'Black Confederate' is?

Viper21 · Sep 20, 2019

jgoodguy said:
Interesting point. Is 'Black Confederate' a rhetorical 20th-21st-century politicaly correct term unrelated to the 19th century Civil War. Is modern presentism to be used to determine what a 'Black Confederate' is?

It was a very simple question. Is President Obama Black..?

That's a lot of dodging, & weaving in lieu of just answering a very simple question.

rittmeister · Sep 20, 2019

Viper21 said:
It was a very simple question. Is President Obama Black..?

That's a lot of dodging, & weaving in lieu of just answering a very simple question.

does it even matter?

Viper21 · Sep 21, 2019

rittmeister said:
does it even matter?

Of course it does. It shows the hypocrisy, or double standards, of the Black Confederate deniers.

President Obama is commonly known as, & praised as, the first African American, or Black President of the United States.

Yet he is actually, by definition mulatto.

mulatto
[m(y)o͝oˈlädō]
NOUN
mulattoes (plural noun) · mulattos (plural noun)
1. a person of mixed white and black ancestry, especially a person with one white and one black parent

Pretty much everybody knows, President Obama's mother was White, & his father was Black.

Weird how nobody has a problem when he is referred to as Black, or as the first Black President. Yet somehow, a person of the same ancestry doesn't qualify as Black, if they were Confederate

rittmeister · Sep 21, 2019

Viper21 said:
Of course it does. It shows the hypocrisy, or double standards, of the Black Confederate deniers.

President Obama is commonly known as, & praised as, the first African American, or Black President of the United States.

Yet he is actually, by definition mulatto.

mulatto
[m(y)o͝oˈlädō]
NOUN
mulattoes (plural noun) · mulattos (plural noun)
1. a person of mixed white and black ancestry, especially a person with one white and one black parent

Pretty much everybody knows, President Obama's mother was White, & his father was Black.

Weird how nobody has a problem when he is referred to as Black, or as the first Black President. Yet somehow, a person of the same ancestry doesn't qualify as Black, if they were Confederate

does anybody still use the mulatto definition? are you using a 19th century racist definition on a 21st century president?

Viper21 · Sep 21, 2019

rittmeister said:
does anybody still use the mulatto definition? are you using a 19th century racist definition on a 21st century president?

Of course that would be your response. Rolling right past the point of the post, & ignoring the obvious. Projection at it's finest.

rittmeister · Sep 21, 2019

Viper21 said:
Of course that would be your response. Rolling right past the point of the post, & ignoring the obvious. Projection at it's finest.

how?

i've heard the word mulatto in a historical context (a lot) - i never heard anybody (besides you, that is) call the 44th president of the us a mulatto. how can that be?

don't try 'he ain't black' on me - skin colour is as relevant as hair colour or height = irelevant.

... please explain to me why a 19th century racist definition is of any relevance to an enlightened modern man such as yourself.

thank you very much

O' Be Joyful · Sep 21, 2019

Viper21 said:
It was a very simple question. Is President Obama Black..?

Yes, by his own definition, but in addition I do not recall any Hawaiian black/native confederate militia. "Show me proof" like a birth-certificate.

O' Be Joyful · Sep 21, 2019

Viper21 said:
President Obama is commonly known as, & praised as, the first African American, or Black President of the United States.

Correction: That was Bill Clinton

O' Be Joyful · Sep 21, 2019

rittmeister said:
i've heard the word mulatto in a historical context (a lot) - i never heard anybody (besides you, that is) call the 44 th president of the us a mulatto. how can that be?

I am confident the current term is bi or multi racial.

mulatto, quadroons, etc is antiquated to say the least.

https://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/mulatto/

Viper21 · Sep 21, 2019

rittmeister said:
how?

i've heard the word mulatto in a historical context (a lot) - i never heard anybody (besides you, that is) call the 44th president of the us a mulatto. how can that be?

don't try 'he ain't black' on me - skin colour is as relevant as hair colour or height = irelevant.

... please explain to me why a 19th century racist definition is of any relevance to an enlightened modern man such as yourself.

thank you very much

Not sure how much more clear I could be.

The POINT of my post isn't/wasn't the correct term for President Obama's ethnicity, or race. The point is/was the folks claiming that some Black Confederates were not "Black enough". There are posters on this board, & others, who claim a person who was of mixed race ancestry, specifically Black/White parents, aren't in fact Black. Yet, they have no problem calling Obama, Black.

O' Be Joyful · Sep 21, 2019

Viper21 said:
The POINT of my post isn't/wasn't the correct term for President Obama's ethnicity, or race. The point is/was the folks claiming that some Black Confederates were not "Black enough". There are posters on this board, & others, who claim a person who was of mixed race ancestry, specifically Black/White parents, aren't in fact Black. Yet, they have no problem calling Obama, Black.

Clarity is the epitome of understanding.

I have problems why this/Obama 'thing" is even being discussed.

Viper21 · Sep 21, 2019

O' Be Joyful said:
Clarity is the epitome of understanding.

I have problems why this/Obama 'thing" is even being discussed.

If you can't see the double standard, not sure what more I can say.

I chose President Obama for my analogy as, he was the easiest known person of similar ancestry as some of the men discussed on this topic.

Canteen · Sep 23, 2019

Tom said:
Just using the same rules as TeenCan uses.

OK, I have never made fun of, or disparaged someone's personal, or username on any BB, at any time, I do not expect it to be done to me!
Are we clear?

Kevin Dally aka Canteen

Tom · Sep 23, 2019

Al Mackey said:
Some people who are ignorant of the laws the confederacy passed might think that means he was a soldier.

I notice you where glasses. Why?

Tom · Sep 23, 2019

O' Be Joyful said:
Then what is your "long-range" problem? It must be higher up.

No problem, Lord Buckethead.

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