Rail Guns Space Weapon...

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Rail Guns are coming to either our American military, or Turkish military , or the China's military...

A railgun is a linear motor device, typically designed as a weapon, that uses electromagnetic force to launch high velocity projectiles. The projectile normally does not contain explosives, instead relying on the projectile's high speed, mass, and kinetic energy to inflict damage.[2] The railgun uses a pair of parallel conductors (rails), along which a sliding armature is accelerated by the electromagnetic effects of a current that flows down one rail, into the armature and then back along the other rail. It is based on principles similar to those of the homopolar motor.

Snip.. they go back to the turn of the 20th century...

The concept of the railgun was first introduced by French inventor Andre Louis Octave Fauchon-Villeplee, who created a small working model in 1917 with the help of the Société anonyme des accumulateurs Tudor (now Tudor Batteries).[10][11] During World War I, the Director of Inventions at the Ministry of Armaments, Jules-Louis Brenton, commissioned Fauchon-Villeplee to develop a 30-mm to 50-mm electric cannon on July 25, 1918 after delegates from the Commission des Inventions witnessed test trials of the working model in 1917. However, the project was abandoned once World War I ended later that year on November 3, 1918.[11] Fauchon-Villeplee filed for a US patent on 1 April 1919, which was issued in July 1922 as patent no. 1,421,435 "Electric Apparatus for Propelling Projectiles".[12] In his device, two parallel busbars are connected by the wings of a projectile, and the whole apparatus surrounded by a magnetic field. By passing current through busbars and projectile, a force is induced which propels the projectile along the bus-bars and into flight.[

Snip... The Russian in the 1920's, German's in WW2, and than America comes along and the Turks and Chinese... If you read the link you will read different ways to make one...


Snip... here is a popular Mechanics time line on space weapons... you see the rail gun in 1986...


Checmate Railgun
The first proposed use of a railgun in space, the Checmate Railgun would launch 3-ounce slugs at 2 miles per second using only two highly charged rails, vaporizing intercontinental ballistic missiles instantly. This artist's conception appeared in the June 1986 issue of Popular Mechanics.

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Oh, I should explain why a good space weapon because it was used in the Halo book series the Space main weapon were rail guns shooting big lead rounds at Alien ships that shot lasers back...

In the Expanse TV show their Space craft have a rail gun put on it so it could take on bigger space ships...
 

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If you think of early space warfare, it will be like sub warfare if the hull is breach you are probably doomed... unlike subs with thick hulls early space craft will have thin hulls... Cost too much to put armored space crafts in space...
 

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If you think of early space warfare, it will be like sub warfare if the hull is breach you are probably doomed... unlike subs with thick hulls early space craft will have thin hulls... Cost too much to put armored space crafts in space...
okay, you asked for it

what kind of space war? a space craft is only a threat to someone else if it carries sth to throw at them - usually that's supossed to be nukes. to defend against such a threat you need to launch a bunch of fighters into space or keep them at the ready on a space station. that space station for obvious reasons needs to be a sitting duck.

the far greater threat is of course a moon base that could simply throw containers filled with moonrocks at anybody - you want to read the moon is a harsh mistress by robert anson heinlein (a trained engineer) for that concept. there is simply no way to defend against those containers with railguns; you need to nuke each and every single one out of orbit. you could also nuke that moon base.

ee 'doc' smith as well as david weber make their navy personnel wear space suits during combat* and thusly avoid that kind of submarine warfare if you have enough spacecraft to wage ware you probably have sar craft, too.

a battered ship can resume to fight when the crew is properly suited up so it'd be more like the battle of skagerrak than cold war sub on sub warfare

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* trek is utter nonsense in that respect (or the placement of the bridge, btw)
 

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If you think of early space warfare, it will be like sub warfare if the hull is breach you are probably doomed... unlike subs with thick hulls early space craft will have thin hulls... Cost too much to put armored space crafts in space...
okay, you asked for it

what kind of space war? a space craft is only a threat to someone else if it carries sth to throw at them - usually that's supossed to be nukes. to defend against such a threat you need to launch a bunch of fighters into space or keep them at the ready on a space station. that space station for obvious reasons needs to be a sitting duck.

the far greater threat is of course a moon base that could simply throw containers filled with moonrocks at anybody - you want to read the moon is a harsh mistress by robert anson heinlein (a trained engineer) for that concept. there is simply no way to defend against those containers with railguns; you need to nuke each and every single one out of orbit. you could also nuke that moon base.

ee 'doc' smith as well as david weber make their navy personnel wear space suits during combat* and thusly avoid that kind of submarine warfare if you have enough spacecraft to wage ware you probably have sar craft, too.

a battered ship can resume to fight when the crew is properly suited up so it'd be more like the battle of skagerrak than cold war sub on sub warfare

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* trek is utter nonsense in that respect (or the placement of the bridge, btw)
Water navy vs Space navy comparisons has serious comparison difficulties. A damaged sub might sink to crush depth or a damaged surface ship sink beneath the waves so the objective becomes to punch holes in them until it happens. IMHO in space, you have to punch lots of holes to kill the crew or hit something vital.
 

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Water navy vs Space navy comparisons has serious comparison difficulties. A damaged sub might sink to crush depth or a damaged surface ship sink beneath the waves so the objective becomes to punch holes in them until it happens. IMHO in space, you have to punch lots of holes to kill the crew or hit something vital.
only if they are suited up properly - otherwise a bucket filled with rusty screws will do
 

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only if they are suited up properly - otherwise a bucket filled with rusty screws will do
That is a point, but in most modern combat, combatants are properly suited up.
 

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That is a point, but in most modern combat, combatants are properly suited up.
in reality they mostly are but why are so many scifi (books, movies and tv) getting it so abysmally wrong?


 

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in reality they mostly are but why are most scifi (books, movies and tv) getting it so abysmally wrong?


How far would Star Trek have gone if the actresses were dressed in bulky utilitarian space gear instead of form-fitting costumes? Most of the older sci fi was written by men in or influenced by WWII combat. The expanse which is supposed to have realistic spaces warfare seems to have an abundance of attractive women in tight outfits, and seemly bottomless budgets for space ships and endless supplies of trained personnel. Future space ships may not even have humans on board or just a few and a highly automated space ship.
 

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How far would Star Trek have gone if the actresses were dressed in bulky utilitarian space gear instead of form-fitting costumes? Most of the older sci fi was written by men in or influenced by WWII combat. The expanse which is supposed to have realistic spaces warfare seems to have an abundance of attractive women in tight outfits, and seemly bottomless budgets for space ships and endless supplies of trained personnel. Future space ships may not even have humans on board or just a few and a highly automated space ship.
well, ent was cancelled after four seasons and their suits made sense - tos on the other hand where the ladies were rather put out on display was cancelled after just three.
 

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well, ent was cancelled after four seasons and their suits made sense - tos on the other hand where the ladies were rather put out on display was cancelled after just three.
After it(TOS) was canceled and went into syndication, however, its popularity exploded. the rest is history. OTOH ENT is just a place holder.
 

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The expanse which is supposed to have realistic spaces warfare seems to have an abundance of attractive women in tight outfits, and seemly bottomless budgets for space ships and endless supplies of trained personnel.
The Expanse is naval warfare in space except I can picture some poor space ship tens of thousands miles away get blow away from rounds fire a year earlier because the heavy rounds travel unimpeded through space... Their space ships fire immense amount of rounds in their space fights. Here a thought do you call two spaceships in space, fighting one another a dogfight... like airplanes down on earth...
 
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