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byron ed said:
So you were never Confirmed? -- that point at which you choose for yourself to be of the faith. You do understand that at your Baptism your Godparents made your choice in proxy only, in advance of that time where you make the choice for yourself as a young adult. As for "nobody asked you to join" what did you think Confirmation is?

If it was merely a social requirement for you, something your parents and nuns told you to do, then that was wrong. I'd guess for you it should have come later, as a young man. That doesn't mean that, as an adult, you can't make that former social event something more genuine by now. But you'd have to want it, another free-will choice yet offered to you.
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My confirmation came when I was about 12. Hardly an adult in any sense of the word.
 
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byron ed said:
So you were never Confirmed? -- that point at which you choose for yourself to be of the faith. You do understand that at your Baptism your Godparents made your choice in proxy only, in advance of that time where you make the choice for yourself as a young adult. As for "nobody asked you to join" what did you think Confirmation is?

If it was merely a social requirement for you, something your parents and nuns told you to do, then that was wrong. I'd guess for you it should have come later, as a young man. That doesn't mean that, as an adult, you can't make that former social event something more genuine by now. But you'd have to want it, another free-will choice yet offered to you.
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as a 10 year old - you're kidding, right. they raised it several times and are now discussing 15, though
 
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byron ed said:
So you were never Confirmed? -- that point at which you choose for yourself to be of the faith. You do understand that at your Baptism your Godparents made your choice in proxy only, in advance of that time where you make the choice for yourself as a young adult. As for "nobody asked you to join" what did you think Confirmation was?

If it was merely a social requirement for you, something your parents and nuns told you to do, then that was wrong. I'd guess for you it should have come later, as a young man. That doesn't mean that, as an adult, you can't make that former social event something more genuine by now. But you'd have to want it, another free-will choice yet offered to you.

PM is more appropriate here. Let's not bother our fellow Christians with technicalities of doctrine, the Catholic faith is not the end-all / be-all of Christian faith after all.
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i won't enter a pm about that and according to catholic doctrine it very well is. they called protestants heretics until a couple of years ago
 
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Jim Klag said:
My confirmation came when I was about 12. Hardly an adult in any sense of the word.
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Therein the problem, if it is a problem for you -- that, and your having somehow missed the thing about free will, but that's on your teachers (nuns?) I'd reckon. Is that mistake made when you were 12 going to be your reason (excuse) not to seek out the actual precepts of your faith as an adult, if that's what you want?

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byron ed said:
Therein the problem, if it is a problem for you -- that, and your having somehow missed the thing about free will, but that's on your teachers (nuns?) I'd reckon. Is that mistake made when you were 12 going to be your reason (excuse) not to seek out the actual precepts of your faith as an adult, if that's what you want?
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i was - as everybody else - 10. someone doesn't abide by their own rules. my grandma was 7 (as was usual then), btw.

... and no matter their age those kids are brainwashed anyway - they actually use water for it when they do it for the first time
 
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byron ed said:
Therein the problem, if it is a problem for you -- that, and your having somehow missed the thing about free will, but that's on your teachers (nuns?) I'd reckon. Is that mistake made when you were 12 going to be your reason (excuse) not to seek out the actual precepts of your faith as an adult, if that's what you want?

PM
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DID SOMEONE MISS MY PREVIOUS POST ABOUT TAKIN' THIS shit to a pm?
 
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rittmeister said:
it's called firmung here - confirmation is for protestants
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Whatever it is for other Christian traditions, Confirmation (cap "C") originated as a Sacrament for Catholics.

Shall we take this PM?
 
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