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The 1783 Treaty has not been rescinded, because it cannot be rescinded by anyone other than the individual state electorates themselves.

Since those electorates never met in a sovereign capacity to surrender their 1783 independence, the "false claim" of 1861 is a legal ghost.

The federal government’s "Self-Coup" was a physical seizure of the exercise of power, but it did not, and could not, touch the title of power held by the states.
In your made-up world, you live in... You know the International Law on treaties was not created until the 20th century...


Known as the "treaty on treaties", the VCLT establishes comprehensive, operational guidelines, rules, and procedures for how treaties are drafted, defined, amended, and interpreted.[5] The VCLT defines a treaty as an international agreement in writing concluded between states governed by international law.[
 

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In your made-up world, you live in... You know the International Law on treaties was not created until the 20th century...


Known as the "treaty on treaties", the VCLT establishes comprehensive, operational guidelines, rules, and procedures for how treaties are drafted, defined, amended, and interpreted.[5] The VCLT defines a treaty as an international agreement in writing concluded between states governed by international law.[
I was TALKING about the law in 1783. I didn't make up any world, I'm not like you. I studied law on Earth.
 

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I was TALKING about the law in 1783. I didn't make up any world, I'm not like you. I studied law on Earth.
Let's get a Historical look at International law in the modern sense...


international law, the body of legal rules, norms, and standards that apply between sovereign states and other entities that are legally recognized as international actors. The term was coined by the English philosopher Jeremy Bentham (1748–1832).

International law is distinct from international comity, which comprises legally nonbinding practices adopted by states for reasons of courtesy (e.g., the saluting of the flags of foreign warships at sea). In addition, the study of international law, or public international law, is distinguished from the field of conflict of laws, or private international law, which is concerned with the rules of municipal law—as international lawyers term the domestic law of states—of different countries where foreign elements are involved.

Early writers who dealt with questions of governance and relations between nations included the Italian lawyers Bartolo da Sassoferrato (1313/14–1357), regarded as the founder of the modern study of private international law, and Baldo degli Ubaldi (1327–1400), a famed teacher, papal adviser, and authority on Roman and feudal law. T
 

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Let's get a Historical look at International law in the modern sense...


international law, the body of legal rules, norms, and standards that apply between sovereign states and other entities that are legally recognized as international actors. The term was coined by the English philosopher Jeremy Bentham (1748–1832).

International law is distinct from international comity, which comprises legally nonbinding practices adopted by states for reasons of courtesy (e.g., the saluting of the flags of foreign warships at sea). In addition, the study of international law, or public international law, is distinguished from the field of conflict of laws, or private international law, which is concerned with the rules of municipal law—as international lawyers term the domestic law of states—of different countries where foreign elements are involved.

Early writers who dealt with questions of governance and relations between nations included the Italian lawyers Bartolo da Sassoferrato (1313/14–1357), regarded as the founder of the modern study of private international law, and Baldo degli Ubaldi (1327–1400), a famed teacher, papal adviser, and authority on Roman and feudal law. T
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