World Languages, Religion, and Civil War, inextricably linked

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Abraham Lincoln proclaimed in 1859 "A house divided cannot stand... I believe it will become all one thing or all the other". (All slave or all free)

If I could cite the "Languages of Europe" source below from wikipedia, the Latin alphabet is displayed in Roman Catholic countries. The Orthodox countries have a wider variety of alphabets. The "Arabic Language" wikipedia says, "The language is very important in Islam because Muslims believe that Allah (God) used it to talk to Muhammad through the Archangel Gabriel (Jibril), giving him the Quran in Arabic. Many but not all Arabic-speakers are Muslims. "

Might a divide exist even before secession and Jefferson Davis's final "adieu" to suggest a narrow-minded union and Woodrow Wilson's "Cosmopolitan" Confederacy?

These languages of Europe , whether Roman Latin based, or the Orthodox Countries, develop in a Christian context. The Muslim religion has been promoting Arabic. What makes for a Religious Language and what does not? What can I say for societies that are tolerant as might be the close-proximity of non-native language speakers throughout Europe? What might be intolerant in Arabic countries that erase pre-Muslim history and have a shared holy book and common language?

The Languages of Europe source on wikipedia highlights the concept of "Lingua Franca". " also known as a bridge language, common language, trade language, auxiliary language, vehicular language, or link language, is a language or dialect systematically used to make communication possible between groups of people who do not share a native language or dialect, particularly when it is a third language that is distinct from both of the speakers' native languages.[2] " Lets follow along with this and the Westminster Confession. "...the New Testament in Greek (which, at the time of the writing of it was most generally known to the nations), being immediately inspired by God, and, by His singular care and providence kept pure in all ages, are therefore authentical;(r) so as, in all controversies of religion, the Church is finally to appeal unto them.(s) But, because these original tongues are not known to all the people of God, who have right unto, and interest in the Scriptures, and are commanded, in the fear of God, to read and search them,(t) therefore they are to be translated into the vulgar language of every nation unto which they come,(u) that the Word of God dwelling plentifully in all, they may worship Him in an acceptable manner;(w) and, through patience and comfort of the Scriptures, may have hope.(x) "
So the Bible's "Koine Greek" held influence due to the Byzantine Empire and "Roman Latin" during the affluence of Rome held Latin as Lingua Franca. The Roman Church is considered the sole and singular retainer of that language after the Roman collapse. The Presbyterians, being Greek for "Presbyter", or Elder, are changing Lingua Franca from Latin to Greek.

Would study reveal that the replacement of the African languages be a result of Imperialism and not Christianization. Africa tends to divide in half between Arabic and European languages. The only successful conversions by Christians is integrated into the civilian and human life of native residents.

The "Bonnie Blue Flag" was the more officially recognized anthem in the Confederacy. The word "Bonnie" is lightly integrated into English with a Scottish origin. The Scottish have Germanic borrowings for "Scottish" and also have a rare "Scottish Gaelic" language. The Scottish are known for bold pyrrhic victory, desperate defenses, and heritage.
Louisiana was a designated "french territory" named after King Louis of France. Napoleon's revolution of France was not welcomed by some in the Confederacy. West Virginia Clarksburg or Lexington, display the Scottish heritage to be personified with General Thomas Jackson. What makes one tolerance more important than other linked but separate tolerances? How does all social intellectualism link together in cosmopolitanism?
The Armenian languages and the Georgian languages have ancient roots to the Apostolic missions of the early Apostles to these countries and have no connection to either the Roman or Greek missions.

Will the Union offer a interconnected understanding of all the world and all the Christian world as well , or does it suffer the single-culture single-language imperialism of Japan, with high levels of "Civic Religion" being social dictation of Religion, low-brow religion, while preaching the illogic of dogmatic devotion in a single Religion?
Wouldn't the Confederate still shine through today of notice in a Greco-Roman heritage? That promotes world peace of the nations.

Languages of Asia - Wikipedia
Languages of Europe - Wikipedia
Arabic language - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Languages of Africa - Wikipedia
Languages of the United States - Wikipedia
Ethnic groups in Europe - Wikipedia
 

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What is the point of this thread you do not have a clear idea of what you trying to get us to understand... linked NO...

display the Scottish heritage to be personified with General Thomas Jackson.
He is of Irish decent...

What is the point of this thread you do not have a clear idea of what you trying to get us to understand...
Napoleon's revolution of France was not welcomed by some in the Confederacy.
Are you talking the General Napoleon because he was long dead by the time the CS came along or a later Napoleon...

the Union
You use this (union) and the word (Confederacy) generically like we understand what you are talking about...

The Armenian languages and the Georgian languages have ancient roots to the Apostolic missions of the early Apostles to these countries and have no connection to either the Roman or Greek missions.
ROOTS in Apostolic mission...?

Armenian (classical: հայերէն, reformed: հայերեն, [hɑjɛˈɾɛn], hayeren) is an Indo-European language, belonging to an independent branch of which it is the only member. It is the official language of Armenia. Historically being spoken throughout the Armenian Highlands, today, Armenian is widely spoken throughout the Armenian diaspora. Armenian is written in its own writing system, the Armenian alphabet, introduced in 405 AD by the priest Mesrop Mashtots.

Georgian (ქართული ენა, romanized: kartuli ena, pronounced [kʰartʰuli ɛna]) is a Kartvelian language spoken by the Georgians. It is the official language of Georgia. Georgian is written in its own writing system, the Georgian script. Georgian is the literary language for all regional subgroups of Georgians, including those who speak other Kartvelian languages: Svans, Mingrelians and the Laz.
 

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Abraham Lincoln proclaimed in 1859 "A house divided cannot stand... I believe it will become all one thing or all the other". (All slave or all free)

If I could cite the "Languages of Europe" source below from wikipedia, the Latin alphabet is displayed in Roman Catholic countries. The Orthodox countries have a wider variety of alphabets. The "Arabic Language" wikipedia says, "The language is very important in Islam because Muslims believe that Allah (God) used it to talk to Muhammad through the Archangel Gabriel (Jibril), giving him the Quran in Arabic. Many but not all Arabic-speakers are Muslims. "

Might a divide exist even before secession and Jefferson Davis's final "adieu" to suggest a narrow-minded union and Woodrow Wilson's "Cosmopolitan" Confederacy?

These languages of Europe , whether Roman Latin based, or the Orthodox Countries, develop in a Christian context. The Muslim religion has been promoting Arabic. What makes for a Religious Language and what does not? What can I say for societies that are tolerant as might be the close-proximity of non-native language speakers throughout Europe? What might be intolerant in Arabic countries that erase pre-Muslim history and have a shared holy book and common language?

The Languages of Europe source on wikipedia highlights the concept of "Lingua Franca". " also known as a bridge language, common language, trade language, auxiliary language, vehicular language, or link language, is a language or dialect systematically used to make communication possible between groups of people who do not share a native language or dialect, particularly when it is a third language that is distinct from both of the speakers' native languages.[2] " Lets follow along with this and the Westminster Confession. "...the New Testament in Greek (which, at the time of the writing of it was most generally known to the nations), being immediately inspired by God, and, by His singular care and providence kept pure in all ages, are therefore authentical;(r) so as, in all controversies of religion, the Church is finally to appeal unto them.(s) But, because these original tongues are not known to all the people of God, who have right unto, and interest in the Scriptures, and are commanded, in the fear of God, to read and search them,(t) therefore they are to be translated into the vulgar language of every nation unto which they come,(u) that the Word of God dwelling plentifully in all, they may worship Him in an acceptable manner;(w) and, through patience and comfort of the Scriptures, may have hope.(x) "
So the Bible's "Koine Greek" held influence due to the Byzantine Empire and "Roman Latin" during the affluence of Rome held Latin as Lingua Franca. The Roman Church is considered the sole and singular retainer of that language after the Roman collapse. The Presbyterians, being Greek for "Presbyter", or Elder, are changing Lingua Franca from Latin to Greek.

Would study reveal that the replacement of the African languages be a result of Imperialism and not Christianization. Africa tends to divide in half between Arabic and European languages. The only successful conversions by Christians is integrated into the civilian and human life of native residents.

The "Bonnie Blue Flag" was the more officially recognized anthem in the Confederacy. The word "Bonnie" is lightly integrated into English with a Scottish origin. The Scottish have Germanic borrowings for "Scottish" and also have a rare "Scottish Gaelic" language. The Scottish are known for bold pyrrhic victory, desperate defenses, and heritage.
Louisiana was a designated "french territory" named after King Louis of France. Napoleon's revolution of France was not welcomed by some in the Confederacy. West Virginia Clarksburg or Lexington, display the Scottish heritage to be personified with General Thomas Jackson. What makes one tolerance more important than other linked but separate tolerances? How does all social intellectualism link together in cosmopolitanism?
The Armenian languages and the Georgian languages have ancient roots to the Apostolic missions of the early Apostles to these countries and have no connection to either the Roman or Greek missions.

Will the Union offer a interconnected understanding of all the world and all the Christian world as well , or does it suffer the single-culture single-language imperialism of Japan, with high levels of "Civic Religion" being social dictation of Religion, low-brow religion, while preaching the illogic of dogmatic devotion in a single Religion?
Wouldn't the Confederate still shine through today of notice in a Greco-Roman heritage? That promotes world peace of the nations.

Languages of Asia - Wikipedia
Languages of Europe - Wikipedia
Arabic language - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Languages of Africa - Wikipedia
Languages of the United States - Wikipedia
Ethnic groups in Europe - Wikipedia
You made no case that is understandable or relatable to the title of the thread you just randomly throw things together and still get the history wrong...
 

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What is the point of this thread you do not have a clear idea of what you trying to get us to understand... linked NO...



He is of Irish decent...

What is the point of this thread you do not have a clear idea of what you trying to get us to understand...


Are you talking the General Napoleon because he was long dead by the time the CS came along or a later Napoleon...



You use this (union) and the word (Confederacy) generically like we understand what you are talking about...



ROOTS in Apostolic mission...?

Armenian (classical: հայերէն, reformed: հայերեն, [hɑjɛˈɾɛn], hayeren) is an Indo-European language, belonging to an independent branch of which it is the only member. It is the official language of Armenia. Historically being spoken throughout the Armenian Highlands, today, Armenian is widely spoken throughout the Armenian diaspora. Armenian is written in its own writing system, the Armenian alphabet, introduced in 405 AD by the priest Mesrop Mashtots.

Georgian (ქართული ენა, romanized: kartuli ena, pronounced [kʰartʰuli ɛna]) is a Kartvelian language spoken by the Georgians. It is the official language of Georgia. Georgian is written in its own writing system, the Georgian script. Georgian is the literary language for all regional subgroups of Georgians, including those who speak other Kartvelian languages: Svans, Mingrelians and the Laz.
I've addressed this before. Let me be succinct about it. His biographer, Army Chaplain / Chief of Staff, Robert Dabney opens with a Race of Men from Appalachia and we aren't going to discuss the social construct any differently. Many Ulster-Scots.

With some focus? Pre-WW1 Nationalism has different buzzwords, ochlocracy, Caesar, his bread and circuses are an Ochlocracy, Greco-Roman, Heathens, British Army Generals , George Washington. The Constitution does give rise to two doctrines. The Declaration of Independence forms a nation. The Constitution gives rise to two political doctrines. These united States ought to be free and independent. The Constitution Union ratified by the States ought to provide for a central government. Consider every President back then showed Understanding of Confederacy, whats that mean? That means by requirement see as a human office of constraints, a President understand perhaps his job is the centralization of those States.
 

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With some focus? Pre-WW1 Nationalism has different buzzwords, ochlocracy, Caesar, his bread and circuses are an Ochlocracy, Greco-Roman, Heathens, British Army Generals , George Washington. The Constitution does give rise to two doctrines. The Declaration of Independence forms a nation. The Constitution gives rise to two political doctrines. These united States ought to be free and independent. The Constitution Union ratified by the States ought to provide for a central government. Consider every President back then showed Understanding of Confederacy, whats that mean? That means by requirement see as a human office of constraints, a President understand perhaps his job is the centralization of those States.
And you are writing to yourself in the paraph not to anyone else these generalities mean something to you but to no one else...

Robert Dabney
It seems his Bio writer assumed he was Scottish because he lived in a Scottish community... He Irish... Ulster-Scots are land stealers. They stole Irish lands for Plantations... I bet they stole Indian land in them mountains too...
 

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You made no case that is understandable or relatable to the title of the thread you just randomly throw things together and still get the history wrong...
I don't want that kind of abuse right before I was about to pass it on perhaps. The title says inextricably linked , language, Religion, Civil War, we can't take these separately. The Recent climate has decided they are, too. What it is a social construct at some base level where we're not remotely the genetic age and you insist on these dirty Wikipedia writers about what his "real" lineage. Catching onto this? What's the "real" criminals on a ship english-scots, whats the 'real' lineage here.
 

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@5fish , Stonewall Jackson's ancestry was English/Irish. His great-grandmother and grandmother (Mary Hadden Jackson) were English. As I'm sure you know, the good reverend Robert Dabney was on Jackson's staff because he was a Calvinist like Jackson and also kin - Dabney was married to Anna Jackson's cousin on the Morrison side. Frankly, Dabney is dubious. His biography of Jackson is an interesting read but contains some big errors. The value of Dabney's biography is as a study into the origins of the Lost Cause ideology.
 

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@5fish , Stonewall Jackson's ancestry was English/Irish. His great-grandmother and grandmother (Mary Hadden Jackson) were English. As I'm sure you know, the good reverend Robert Dabney was on Jackson's staff because he was a Calvinist like Jackson and also kin - Dabney was married to Anna Jackson's cousin on the Morrison side. Frankly, Dabney is dubious. His biography of Jackson is an interesting read but contains some big errors. The value of Dabney's biography is as a study into the origins of the Lost Cause ideology.
"The family from which General Jackson came, was founded in Western Virginia by John Jackson, an emigrant from Lon- don. His stock was Scotch-Irish ; and it is most probable that John Jackson himself was removed by his parents from the north of Ireland to London, in his second year. Nearly fifty years after he left England, his son, Colonel George Jackson, " bunch of Pastor stuff "They have usually claimed that the cliaracteristics of their race were largely inherited from her ; that it was her sterling integ- rity, vigorous intellect, and directness of purpose which gave them their type."Hers were stamina, both of the physical and moral constitution, fitting her to rear a race that were men indeed."

I meant to say Wikipedia is run by the politically inclined the first time I posted with the same meaning.
 

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Them, too!
Wait is this a sarcasti-thread? There's something to say about no internet sources in Academics. That's not a first-hand source teaches all college classrooms. No wikipedia as a source.
 

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I don't want that kind of abuse right before I was about to pass it on perhaps. The title says inextricably linked , language, Religion, Civil War, we can't take these separately. The Recent climate has decided they are, too. What it is a social construct at some base level where we're not remotely the genetic age and you insist on these dirty Wikipedia writers about what his "real" lineage. Catching onto this? What's the "real" criminals on a ship english-scots, whats the 'real' lineage here.
Here is VMI take on Jackson's family history... Jackson is of English origin...


Jackson (/ˈdʒæksən/) is a common American, Scottish, Irish and English surname, it's of English origin. It literally means "son of Jack". In 1980, Jackson was the 24th most popular surname in England and Wales.
 
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Here is a bunch of people researching Jackson's Family tree... John Jackson came to London at age ten from Ireland with his family... some say he is from the Scottish-Irish but other say he from English-Irish stock but he was Irish by birth... family went to England guessing it implies an origin are form England and Stonewall Jackson was raise in the Anglican Church...


Here is...


snip... details at this link...

John Jackson was descended from English settlers in Ireland. He was born in Coleraine, Londonderry, Ireland, and at the age of ten moved with his family to London. He emigrated to Maryland in 1748, married, and removed to Virginia in 1758 (present day Hardy County, West Virginia). He was a member of the County Court, served as an Indian spy in 1787 for Governor Henry Lee, and was a lieutenant of the militia in 1787. During the Revolutionary War, he took part in the Battle of King’s Mountain. John was said to have been a spare, diminutive man, quiet, determined, courageous, and of sound judgment.” [N2]
 
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Here is a bunch of people researching Jackson's Family tree... John Jackson came to London at age ten from Ireland with his family... some say he is from the Scottish-Irish but other say he from English-Irish stock but he was Irish by birth... family went to England guessing it implies an origin are form England and Stonewall Jackson was raise as an Anglian.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by "Anglian", 5fish! By that time, the Jackson family was far from being either English or Irish. When you say Anglian, I think East Anglia, that part of England once ruled by Denmark.
 

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I'm not quite sure what you mean by "Anglian", 5fish! By that time, the Jackson family was far from being either English or Irish. When you say Anglian, I think East Anglia, that part of England once ruled by Denmark.
I fixed my spelling... Anglican Church
 
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