Union statues in the Southwest also honor the war against Native Americans

[5fish]

I am making the same argument as Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes. It doesn't make sense to breed two stupid dogs so why should people be any different?
Leftyhunter

What is funny you must not have read my post about how IQ test and thier racist outcomes...

How do we decide which human are stupid dogs?

If you ask a fish to climb a tree and he could not you think he's stupid or disabled... If you went into a hunter gatherer tribe and they ask you to hunt and gather, they think you were stupid too...

You have been shown that eugenics is a failed idea of the 19th century...

 

[Leftyhunter]

What is funny you must not have read my post about how IQ test and thier racist outcomes...

How do we decide which human are stupid dogs?

If you ask a fish to climb a tree and he could not you think he's stupid or disabled... If you went into a hunter gatherer tribe and they ask you to hunt and gather, they think you were stupid too...

You have been shown that eugenics is a failed idea of the 19th century...

I will graciously bow out of the thread because I made my point if criminals are allowed to breed then we get baby criminals. Overall there is a reason why if one wants a working dog in what ever field I.e.. hunting service to the blind , protection etc one has to go to a reputable breeder and pay too dollar because bits not just genetics but it's also upbringing. Society has a choice and it's between subsidizing stupid people to breed or responsible people to breed. So far at least the US has chosen stupid people and the results are obvious.
Leftyhunter

 

[rittmeister]

I will graciously bow out of the thread because I made my point if criminals are allowed to breed then we get baby criminals. Overall there is a reason why if one wants a working dog in what ever field I.e.. hunting service to the blind , protection etc one has to go to a reputable breeder and pay too dollar because bits not just genetics but it's also upbringing. Society has a choice and it's between subsidizing stupid people to breed or responsible people to breed. So far at least the US has chosen stupid people and the results are obvious.
Leftyhunter

i would call you a neaderthal if that weren't an insult to actual neanderthals

 

[5fish]

I will graciously bow out of the thread because I made my point if criminals are allowed to breed then we get baby criminals

Old @Leftyhunter ... You made a misleading point...

Here is a book review that will give you modern insight to crime... It proves we need Universal Healthcare, UBI, and other social reforms to end poverty...

New book debunks myths about who causes crime and why

Forty years ago, Craig Haney was a young professor of psychology at UC Santa Cruz when a question about the real causes of crime began to form in his mind: What if most violent criminal behavior is rooted in early childhood suffering, particularly the harrowing experiences of trauma, abuse, and...

phys.org

snip... @Leftyhunter the bold words is your ancient belief of crime...

"The nation's dominant narrative about crime is that it is committed by bad people who freely choose to make bad decisions, persons who are fundamentally different from the rest of us" said Haney, who holds psychology and law degrees. "The only thing that is fundamentally different about them is the lives they've lived and the structural impediments they've faced."

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In addition, Haney argues, poverty and racism are major structural factors that contribute to crime. "Ninety percent of people in prison are poor, and the majority are people of color," said Haney.

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Poverty is a "gateway" risk factor that exposes people to other forms of trauma, ensures a range of unmet needs, and can constrict opportunities over an entire life course, he said. Because race and poverty are so deeply intertwined in our society, people of color are more likely to confront these challenges. This fact, and their differential treatment at the hands of criminal justice system, accounts for their overrepresentation in our prisons.

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"Fundamental criminal justice reform will require us to change our conceptions of who commits crime and why," said Haney. "It isn't about individual pathologies. It's about pathological social histories and circumstances. We know this not because it's politically liberal or progressive to say so. We know it because there's a mountain of data telling us it's true.

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Similarly, to be effective, crime prevention strategies must focus on massive structural changes, including a serious effort to alleviate poverty.

"Addressing the terrible consequences of poverty and economic inequality is important in its own right, but also should be seen as advancing the goal of crime prevention," said Haney. "Reducing crime and poverty are part of the same social justice agenda.