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He called up the The Guard to be ready to intercede between ICE and Protesters... They are in staging areas .. get the facts straight...
This doesn't sound so innocent. Sounds like a threat-

Walz:
"We do not need any further help from the federal government. To Donald Trump and Kristi Noem, you’ve done enough. I’ve issued a warning order to prepare the Minnesota National Guard."
 

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This doesn't sound so innocent. Sounds like a threat-

Walz:
"We do not need any further help from the federal government. To Donald Trump and Kristi Noem, you’ve done enough. I’ve issued a warning order to prepare the Minnesota National Guard."
You just reading into it... Is not the state militia and armed citizens suppose to fight government tyranny.... Like ICE .. it not the guard for that today...
 

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This doesn't sound so innocent. Sounds like a threat-

Walz:
"We do not need any further help from the federal government. To Donald Trump and Kristi Noem, you’ve done enough. I’ve issued a warning order to prepare the Minnesota National Guard."
ICE killing people... Americans too...

 

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This doesn't sound so innocent. Sounds like a threat-

Walz:
"We do not need any further help from the federal government. To Donald Trump and Kristi Noem, you’ve done enough. I’ve issued a warning order to prepare the Minnesota National Guard."
They are shooting American Citizens...

While there is no definitive comprehensive count of U.S. citizens shot by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents, news reports and investigations have documented specific instances of citizens being shot or killed in immigration enforcement incidents.
Key findings from recent reports include:
Specific Incidents: In one recent incident in January 2026, an unarmed 37-year-old U.S. citizen named Renee Good was fatally shot by an ICE agent in Minneapolis. Officials claimed the agent fired in self-defense, saying she "weaponized her car," a characterization disputed by local officials and some eyewitness accounts.
Documented Cases: Investigations by news organizations like The Trace and ProPublica have identified multiple incidents where immigration agents opened fire. One report noted at least three people were shot while observing or documenting immigration raids, and five while driving away from traffic stops or evading enforcement. Reports state that Americans have been "dragged, tackled, beaten, tased, and shot by immigration agents".
Underreporting: The actual number of individuals shot by ICE agents, including potential citizens, is difficult to determine precisely. Some sources indicate that not all shootings are publicly reported, and agencies have been found to maintain poor and insufficient records regarding the citizenship status of those they detain or use force against.
Overall Shootings: As of early January 2026, there have been at least 16 shooting incidents involving federal immigration officials (ICE and CBP) during the current administration, resulting in four deaths and at least seven injuries
 

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ICE killing people... Americans too...

They're SUPPPOSED to do that when people try to KILL them when making arrests... it's WHY we give them guns.

Oh, and this is good: "She didn't try to kill him, she was trying to escape arrest, and he was just in the WAY!

You're too much... you love the federal government killing people to conquer sovereign nations, but then you want to pick and choose what the federal government can and can't do.

Well you made your bed, now lie in it.
 
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Which is an act of insurrection.
Not even close National Guard and Police will keep them separated... He called up the guard to Trump's grubby hands off them...
 

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You are lose with your definitions...
The law isn't.

18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2383

"Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."


18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both."

And don't bother with the AI crap that you don't even understand, I'm not interested.
 

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And don't bother with the AI crap that you don't even understand, I'm not interested.
Walz has not reached any stage of it... Talk about Governor Perry and how many times he called for secession...

It was 15 years ago that Texas Gov. Rick Perry had heads snapping across the country for pushing the idea that his state could secede. “We were a republic. We were a stand-alone nation. And one of the deals was, we can leave any time we want,” Perry wrongly told tech visitors in Austin back in 2009. “So we're kind of thinking about that again." His vague comments were initially met with laughter, as if he must have been joking.
 

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nd don't bother with the AI crap that you don't even understand, I'm not interested.
You say all states have the power, but when a state wants to exercise its power to oppress the tyranny of the Federal Government, faced with ICE, you call for prison and label them as insurrectionists... You can not have it both ways. You say the state could secede back in 1861 and stand up to Lincoln's overreach, but to a governor is doing the same thing, standing up for his state, and you're cheering on the oppressors... You are a phony...
 

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You say all states have the power, but when a state wants to exercise its power to oppress the tyranny of the Federal Government, faced with ICE, you call for prison and label them as insurrectionists... You can not have it both ways. You say the state could secede back in 1861 and stand up to Lincoln's overreach, but to a governor is doing the same thing, standing up for his state, and you're cheering on the oppressors... You are a phony...

I said that the US government has DE FACTO authority-- which Tim Walz claims is de jure, JUST LIKE YOU DO.

So YOU'RE the ones who want it both ways, and I'm just watching you both hoisted on the petard of hypocrisy.
 
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Walz has not reached any stage of it... Talk about Governor Perry and how many times he called for secession...
Why not, Zero is my hero!

He mentioned secession as a POSSIBILITY-- he NEVER called for it.

Walz, meanwhile, has engaged in sedition by ordering preparation of the Minnesota National Guard to resist ICE agents.
He THINKS that he's going to divert attention from his scandal, but he's just jumping out of the frying-pan into the fire.
 
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Walz, meanwhile, has engaged in sedition by ordering preparation of the Minnesota National Guard to resist ICE agents.
He THINKS that he's going to divert attention from his scandal, but he's just jumping out of the frying-pan into the fire.
Read the truth... It's been going on for years, and 80 people have been indicted and 56 sent to jail so far...


Why not, Zero is my hero!
Walz has done nothing to try to keep Trump's thugs running amok... and the protesters safe. If that is insurrection its a long stretch.
 

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I said that the US government has DE FACTO authority
Make up your mind... Are you for state secession? Are you for states nullifying federal laws? Do states have to follow the 14th Amendment? You need to make up your mind... but I do know you are MAGA...
 

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Make up your mind... Are you for state secession? Are you for states nullifying federal laws? Do states have to follow the 14th Amendment? You need to make up your mind... but I do know you are MAGA...
I observe the fact that state ELECTORATES are supreme, not state GOVERNMENTS ever since 1787; while the 1861 incident was a self-coup which established the US government as the de facto authority, and Walz is only a STATE GOVERNMENT official-- who thus legally answers to that de facto federal authority, UNLESS he is directed otherwise by the DE JURE authority the Minnesota ELECTORATE, and PROCLAIMS it such against a federal self-coup (which he does NOT).

And you say that Trump's authority is from the USA as a LEGITIMATE national union, so you are hoisted on your own petard of hypocrisy... just like Walz.
 

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Walz has done nothing to try to keep Trump's thugs running amok... and the protesters safe. If that is insurrection its a long stretch.
He gave warning-orders to the Minnesota National Guard, to begin prepping them to act against ICE agents.

AGAIN:

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

"If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both."

So he IS conspiring to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, and is therefore engaging in seditious conspiracy.

However Donald Trump knows better than to interrupt an enemy when who's destroying himself; so he won't order any arrest while Walz is in the middle of doing that very thing, and turn him into a martyr to interfere with the scandal-prosecution.
 
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