Trench Sweeper... Germans in fear... WW1

[5fish]

French get the claim to first modern military rifle...

The Lebel rifle has the distinction of being the first military firearm to use smokeless powder ammunition. The new propellant powder, "Poudre B," was nitrocellulose-based and had been invented in 1884 by French chemist Paul Vieille.

Lebel Model 1886 rifle - Wikipedia

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In the Great war... outdated...

An Official Journal Of The NRA | The 1886/93 Lebel: France's Great War Masterpiece

This innovative 8 mm bolt-action repeater, which performed extraordinary service during World War I, was also one of the most important military arms in history.

www.americanrifleman.org

Despite its impressive record, there are those today who insist on denigrating France’s Fusil Modéle 1886/93 “Lebel” insisting that by the time World War I began it was obsolete and out of date. True, it incorporated an early design or two that might have fallen out of fashion by 1914, but the fact remains that it proved to be a superb, effective arm, more than capable of holding its own against whatever the Boche could throw against it.

 

[rittmeister]

French get the claim to first modern military rifle...

The Lebel rifle has the distinction of being the first military firearm to use smokeless powder ammunition. The new propellant powder, "Poudre B," was nitrocellulose-based and had been invented in 1884 by French chemist Paul Vieille.

Lebel Model 1886 rifle - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In the Great war... outdated...

An Official Journal Of The NRA | The 1886/93 Lebel: France's Great War Masterpiece

This innovative 8 mm bolt-action repeater, which performed extraordinary service during World War I, was also one of the most important military arms in history.

www.americanrifleman.org

Despite its impressive record, there are those today who insist on denigrating France’s Fusil Modéle 1886/93 “Lebel” insisting that by the time World War I began it was obsolete and out of date. True, it incorporated an early design or two that might have fallen out of fashion by 1914, but the fact remains that it proved to be a superb, effective arm, more than capable of holding its own against whatever the Boche could throw against it.

that's disputable - it certainly is the first smokeless powder rifle but they should have built a new one as the form of the cartridge and the reloading process were outdated. they wanted to keep their investment and updated it which was a big problem as everybody else (as that smokles rabbit was out of the hat) built new rifles - germany hastily came up with the gewehr 88 (which had a lot of issues) that was more or less abandoned (they continued to use it for colonial troops) only ten years later for the gewehr 98 which then basicly served in two world wars. the lebel was a clusterfuck; just think about the problems they had with that cartridge for the chauchat light machinegun.

 

[O' Be Joyful]

These are the Trench "sweepers" that you are looking for @5fish .

The Germans protested against the Browning shotgun "as inhumane" and we told 'em to **** off cuz they was using Mustard gas and such.

 

[5fish]

Here another pump shot gun used in the trenches...

Stevens M520 (Model 520)

Page details technical specifications, development, and operational history of the Stevens M520 (Model 520) including pictures.

www.militaryfactory.com

 

[5fish]

Here are the Shotguns used in the Vietnam war...





Shown here (from top to bottom) are three U.S. military combat shotguns commonly used during the Vietnam era. They are an Ithaca Model 37 “S-prefix” ”riot gun,” a Winchester Model 1200 “trench gun” with a late 1960s-vintage M1917 bayonet attached and a Stevens Model 77 E “riot gun.”

An Official Journal Of The NRA | Combat Shotguns Of The Vietnam War

Shotguns with familiar names—Ithaca, Remington, Winchester, Savage and Stevens—served American troops with distinction in the steaming jungles of Vietnam.

www.americanrifleman.org

Germans are using them today... @rittmeister your people can around to them...

Today shotguns are still part of U.S. and NATO arsenals. The U.S. Marine Corps fields both the Mossberg 500 series pump shotgun , 590 series shotgun, and M1014 semi-automatic shotguns . The U.S. Army, is replacing Mossberg 500 series shotguns with the new M26 Modular Accessory Shotgun System, or MASS . A bolt action, magazine fed shotgun, the M26 can be used along with a shoulder stock or attached under the barrel of an M4 carbine. Even the German Army has done an about-face on shotguns, issuing the Remington 870 Police Magnum to airborne engineer and special operations troops.

Why The US Military Still Loves Shotguns In A Firefight

One of the most popular civilian firearms, the shotgun, also has a role as a military weapon.Originally designed as hunting weapons, many armies turn to

taskandpurpose.com

 

[O' Be Joyful]

Here another pump shot gun used in the trenches...

Stevens M520 (Model 520)

Page details technical specifications, development, and operational history of the Stevens M520 (Model 520) including pictures.

www.militaryfactory.com

That one was covered in my first vid, along w/ the Browning.

 

[5fish]

Look what I found the Native American... He held out four days and never got the metal honor... @diane

Joseph Oklahombi - Wikipedia

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From Chief Gary Batton of the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma:

"Many of you know the story of the Choctaw Code Talkers of WWI and WWII and also the story of Code Talker Joseph Oklahombi, who single-handedly captured 171 Germans after moving 200 yards over open ground against artillery and machine gun fire, rushing a machine gun nest and capturing one of the guns. He not only turned the gun on the enemy for four days, keeping them under fire, he was without food and water those four days, killing numerous enemy soldiers until the rest surrendered. Although [retroactively] awarded … the Silver Star and Marshal Pétain, former Commander-in-Chief of the French Armies of the East, awarded him the Croix de Guerre, the Congressional Medal of Honor was never presented. It is a long-overdue recognition and I am working to see the Medal of Honor presented to Oklahombi."

Here a more details of the event...

Honoring WWI code talker, Native veterans

One of the most decorated war heroes from Oklahoma served as a code talker in World War I and is buried at Yasho United Methodist Church cemetery.

www.umnews.org

The Republic of France awarded Oklahombi the Croix de Guerre medal. The French citation recounts how Oklahombi and 23 men were cut off from the rest of the company. Oklahombi ran over 200 meters through a barbed-wire maze and jumped into a machine-gun pit. He turned the captured machine gun against the German enemies and held out for four days without food or water and “despite a constant barrage of large projectiles and gas shells.”

His actions contributed to the capture of 171 prisoners. The citation also stated that he crossed the “no man’s land” territory several times to collect information on the enemy and rescue wounded comrades.

The U.S. Army awarded Oklahombi with the Silver Star with Victory Ribbon for his bravery. No minority soldier at the time had ever received a Medal of Honor. American Indians were not given U.S. citizenship until 1924 and could not vote in some states until 1957.

This last one about Native Americans in WWone..

World War I

When the U.S. entered World War I in April 1917, many Native Americans welcomed the opportunity to serve in the armed forces. By September, nearly 12,000 men had registered for military service. Native women also volunteered and served as army nurses in France. Approximately 10,000 American...

americanindian.si.edu

When the U.S. entered World War I in April 1917, many Native Americans welcomed the opportunity to serve in the armed forces. By September, nearly 12,000 men had registered for military service. Native women also volunteered and served as army nurses in France. Approximately 10,000 American Indians joined the Red Cross, collecting money and donating supplies to support the war effort. All this when one third of American Indians remained unrecognized as U.S. citizens.

 

[5fish]

Here is a link to Native Americans who earned the Distinguished Service Cross in WW1... and associated tribes they belong to... There was more than a few earning the honor... @diane

Distinguished Service Cross - World War I Centennial

Site of the United States WWI Centennial Commission, and the Doughboy Foundation, building the National WWI Memorial in Washington, D.C.

www.worldwar1centennial.org

Like:

Private First Class Amado Garcia (Acoma Pueblo) of the 28th Division, 110th Infantry, Company K, received the Distinguished Service Cross “for extraordinary heroism in action near Fismes, France, August 26, 1918. With two other soldiers, Pvt. Garcia crawled 300 yards in front of our lines, through the enemy’s wire, and attacked a hostile machine-gun nest. The enemy crew opened fire on them at a range of only 10 yards and resisted stubbornly, but they succeeded in killing three of the crew and driving off the others with clubbed rifles. They returned to our lines under heavy fire.”

 

[5fish]

We have trench clubs...

Trench raiding club - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Trench raiding clubs were homemade melee weapons used by both the Allies and the Central Powers during World War I.[citation needed] Clubs were used during nighttime trench raiding expeditions as a quiet and effective way of killing or wounding enemy soldiers. The clubs were usually made out of wood. It was common practice to fix a metal object at the striking end (e.g. an empty Mills bomb) in order to maximize the injury inflicted. Another common design comprised a simple stave with the end drilled out and a lead weight inserted, with rows of large hobnails hammered in around its circumference. Most designs had some form of cord or leather strap at the end to wrap around the user's wrist. Bosnian soldiers serving in the Austro-Hungarian army were fond of using maces.[citation needed] They were also used by officers to finish enemy soldiers wounded by poison gas attacks.[citation needed] Trench clubs were manufactured in bulk by units based behind the lines. Typically, regimental carpenters and metal workers would make large numbers of the same design of club.[citation needed]

They were generally used along with other melee weapons such as trench knives, entrenching tools, bayonets, hatchets, hammers, and pickaxe handles – backed up with handguns, shotguns, submachine guns, and hand grenades.[citation needed]

Here is... @O' Be Joyful likes knives...

Trench knife - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

German Army trench knives[edit]
The German Nahkampfmesser (translated: close combat knife) was the standard issue German combat knife during the First World War.[4] It remained in service in modified form through the end of the Second World War.[10] Most of these knives had slab wooden grips and metal sheaths and were sturdily made. According to one authoritative source, German-issued trench knives of World War I were "conventional, general-purpose, cut-and-thrust knives" with blades that were "for the most part approximately six inches in length, single-edged with a top leading false edge ... although double-edged blades are occasionally encountered."[11]

After the French Nail was employed against them, German forces on the Western Front also began to employ converted steel barbed-wire stakes as stabbing weapons for use by their own soldiers.

German trench knives carried during World War II were similar in design and are usually known today as boot knives, although they seldom were carried in boots. Most also had steel sheaths with clips that could be attached to boots, webbing or clothing, and most were made by government contractors and issued as combat gear.

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

yes, but it worked

as well as against at least on freighter and a helicopter. Well with the heli the guy firing it from a tree broke several of his own bones

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

@O' Be Joyful , I think @rittmeister challenging your ability to count to ten...

how could he? with one finger shot off!

 

[rittmeister]

as well as against at least on freighter and a helicopter. Well with the heli the guy firing it from a tree broke several of his own bones

how could he? with one finger shot off!

are you trying to better your place in the creating off-topic threads competition?

 

[5fish]

How about Tank sweepers...

Mauser Tankgewehr M1918 anti-tank rifle - Arms of the First World War - Royal Armouries collections

Development The first use of tanks by the British during the Battle of the Somme in 1916 came as a shock to the Germans. Whilst primitive and slow-moving compared to modern tanks, they were resilient to (though not totally proof

collections.royalarmouries.org

TuF (Tank-und-Flieger) heavy machine gun (Germany) - Modern Firearms

The TuF (Tank-und-Flieger) heavy machine gun was designed in Germany toward the end of the First World war. As its name implied, it was intended to be used mostly against newest battle inventions of the WW1 era – tanks (armored vehicles) and aircrafts, which were used to bomb and atrafe with...

modernfirearms.net