Trench Sweeper... Germans in fear... WW1

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I am here to point out in WW1 the Germans tried to declare the pump Shotgun an illegal weapon of war. The pump shotgun was new to the Germans and as everyone learned good for up close fighting and clearing trenches... The Germans threaten to kill Americans in precession of a shotgun or its ammunition...

Shotgunners would rapidly clear German trenches, cutting away the defenders. The tactic was so effective that Model 97s picked up the nicknames “trench brooms” and “trench sweepers.” The German government lobbed an official protest against the weapon, saying that the weapon inflicted unnecessary cruelty.

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A single weapon used predominantly in World War I and with a limited deployment in World War II was so effective and so terrifying that Germany lodged a diplomatic protest against its use by American forces. It wasn’t the flamethrower or the machine gun. It was shotguns, especially the Winchester Models 1897 and 1912.

Here is this... You know that slamfire mode is assume... German's said they were crueler than gas... inhumane they said the inventors of the flamethrower...

https://owlcation.com/humanities/World-War-1-History-Germany-Declares-Shotgun-Inhumane

The Weaponized Shotgun
What evolved was the Model 97 Trench Gun, a pump-action 12-gauge shotgun with a 20-inch barrel, a sling swivel, and a bayonet adapter with a perforated metal heat shield over the barrel. Without the heat shield, the barrel could get too hot to hold when using the bayonet. With one “in the spout” (chambered) and five in its tubular magazine, the Trench Gun could hold six shotgun shells. Normal cartridges made of a brass base with a cardboard tube were unfit for the terrible conditions at the front. The cardboard, when wet, swelled up and jammed, so all-brass cartridges were issued. Each 2-3/4 inch shell contained nine 00 (double-aught) buckshot pellets, each with a diameter of 8.4mm (.33 inch).

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There were pistols that got the name as trench sweepers but the Colt M1911 45 was the best at it...

Here is this...


Handguns relating to World War I French and Belgian “trench sweepers“ include (clockwise from top): a factory engraved FN Browning 1900 pistol as used by the French; a French-used FN Browning 1900; a Colt M1911 made in 1918; a Belgian Colt 1903 in original finish; an arsenal refinished Belgian Colt 1903; and Spanish Ruby pistol as used by the French.

Here is the best...

https://library.ccsu.edu/dighistFall16/exhibits/show/firearm-manufacturing-ct-wwi/coltfirearms

The Colt M1911 was well known for its power, reliability, and extremely infrequent reports of jamming. Colt claimed that the pistol would average at least six-thousand shots fired without jamming. It did, however, garner a reputation for being somewhat inaccurate, claims which the Colt Company tested and refuted. World War I soldiers, like the one shown in this photograph, often complained during training that the sights were off, prompting Colt to make changes to the M1911 model prior to World War II. Still, the Colt M1911 is often regarded as the most innovative, safe, and reliable pistols ever manufactured, and are still replicated for gun enthusiasts in the twenty-first century.

Here... Go Doughboys...


It certainly made quite an impression on the Doughboys and the Germans alike. Tales of the man-stopping power of the M1911’s .45 ACP rounds quickly grew into legends, like the description of a .45 exit wound the size of a “Derby hat.” Ballistic myths aside, the M1911 made its mark in combat in the trenches and the advance to break the Hindenburg Line in the war’s bloody finale.
 

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John T. Thompson, inventor of the Thompson Machine Gun, was born in the house in 1860. The "Tommy Gun" became famous nationwide during the Prohibition and Depression-era years and was the preferred gun for police, soldiers, and gangsters. It was used in many Hollywood movies.

 

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the brits used a milan (put in at one end and ...) to clear an argentinian trench in the falklands
 

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Just sayin' ;)

John T. Thompson, inventor of the Thompson Machine Gun, was born in the house in 1860. The "Tommy Gun" became famous nationwide during the Prohibition and Depression-era years and was the preferred gun for police, soldiers, and gangsters. It was used in many Hollywood movies.

it wasn't used in worldwar one
 

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I like to point out the Germans look for high tech solution to trench warfare like sub machinegun , Gas, and Flamethrowers... While our country boys like @O' Be Joyful , with their modified pump shotguns and a semi-auto pistols with hitting power to clear trenches efficiently...
 

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I like to point out the Germans look for high tech solution to trench warfare like sub machinegun , Gas, and Flamethrowers... While our country boys like @O' Be Joyful , with their modified pump shotguns and a semi-auto pistols with hitting power to clear trenches efficiently...
it's a hillbilly aproach - a pumpaction is probably the most sophisticated piece of equipment they can handle
 

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I like to point out the Germans look for high tech solution to trench warfare like sub machinegun , Gas, and Flamethrowers... While our country boys like @O' Be Joyful , with their modified pump shotguns and a semi-auto pistols with hitting power to clear trenches efficiently...

Double ougt, sorry we red-necks don't always spell very well like them Jerries/germans. :guffaw:

But we had Sgt. York
 

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@O' Be Joyful here is a video about 5:03 minutes in it takes remarks from York's diary about that day he capture a bunch of Germans. The best part is how he relates his old country boy hunting days to helping him carry the day... You will learn about how you hunt turkeys relates to shooting Germans...

 
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