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I was listening to an old Radiolab show and it was about Einstein. He read one German science fiction writer a bunch and another writer wrote about a time traveler traveling at the speed of light. @rittmeister one was a Prussian...


Already in the edition of 1855, Bernstein published ideas on space, time and the speed of light which had appeared in the anonymous treatise The Stars and the Earth (German: Die Gestirne und die Weltgeschichte) written by 'an unknown clear-sighted thinker.'[4] It was not until 1874 when a new German edition appeared that the name of the author – Felix Eberty – was made public. When this edition was re-published in 1923, Albert Einstein wrote a preface.[5][6]


As a young boy, Albert Einstein had read a book by Aaron Bernstein, entitled The People's Book on Natural Science. In one section, Bernstein asked the reader to imagine riding alongside a current of electricity as it raced down a telegraph wire. This image stuck in young Albert's mind, and when he was 16, he began to wonder what a light beam would look like if he could catch up to it. As a child, he thought that a light beam would appear frozen, like a motionless wave, if one were racing alongside it. But no one had ever observed frozen light, and he began to wonder why this might be.

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Aaron Bernstein wrote a series of popular science books that Einstein was introduced to at age 10 by a student boarder at the family house. Einstein himself later stated that he had read them "with breathless attention".

In one volume, Bernstein describes a thought experiment involving a speeding train and the constancy of the speed of light which likely influenced Einstein's own thought experiment as a 16 year old, and perhaps those in his 1905 special relativity paper. In another volume, Bernstein speculated about the existence of gravity waves. Like Einstein, Bernstein was also eager to tie together all of nature's forces. The philosophy of science underlying Bernstein's writings seemed to mirror Einstein's later scientific realism and trust in the power of rational thought over experiment. For example, Bernstein wrote of the discovery of Uranus: "Praised be this science! Praised be the men who do it! And praised be the human mind, which sees more sharply than does the human eye."

Here is a passage (pp 18-19) from a recent biography of Einstein which describes in more detail, the influence Bernstein's books had on his development. For those who can read German, here is the excerpt from the Bernstein book describing the light thought experiment. An English translation of a different volume by Bernstein can be found here.


This raises the question of how strongly childhood preconceptions influenced the later physics and philosophy of science of Einstein and other physicists.
 

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Here is the other writer


While he was still working in the judicial service, Eberty published the 28-page work The Stars and World History in Breslau under the pseudonym FY. Thoughts about space, time and eternity. [3] It was translated into English and published in London in the same year - without an author being named. [4] A year later, Eberty published a supplement, still as FY, and under the same title with the addition of II. Heft . [5] In the foreword he points out that the English edition of the first issue is not authorized.

In 1855, in the first edition of his Natural Science People's Books, Aaron Bernstein presented observations about space, time and the speed of light that "an unknown, sharp-sighted thinker" had made in an anonymous writing. [6] Albert Einstein read these popular science books in his youth, which are considered to have shaped his interests and his future career. [7]

In 1874 Eberty published a second German edition, this time under his full name. [8] The work has since enjoyed great success in England and the USA. In the preface to the 1874 edition, Eberty states that the sixth edition was already sold out in London in 1854. [9] W. von Voigts-Rhetz considered this edition to be the work of an English-speaking anonymous person and translated it into German in 1859. [10]

Albert Einstein wrote a preface for a new edition of Eberty's work in 1923. [11]

In his 2006 book Between the Stars: Photo Archives, the image scientist Karl Clausberg claims an influence of Eberty's writing on Camille Flammarion , Hermann von Helmholtz , Albert Einstein , Ludwig Klages and Thure von Uexküll , as well as on Walter Benjamin . [12] He included Eberty's writing as a facsimile in his book and commented on it extensively. [13]

The Einstein biographer Jürgen Nephew also sees an influence on the young Albert Einstein and writes about Eberty's writing: “Here you can also find a crucial idea about the special theory of relativity: the moment travels with light.” [14] The scientific justification for “such Einstein later delivered fantasies


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And as it turns out, the ideas in several stories may have provided inspiration for some of Albert Einstein's theories. What's more, Einstein used stories to explain complex concepts to lay audiences. In particular, he relied on the fiction of writers named Felix Eberty and Aaron Bernstein. "He recalled devouring Bernstein's work, in particular, 'with breathless attention,' and it may have inspired one of the conjectures that led to his special theory of relativity," writes Jimena Canales in The New Yorker.

In his 1846 story "The Stars and World History," Eberty speculated on what might happen if humans could travel faster than the speed of light. He also wondered what would you would see if you observed events that had unfolded on Earth from a faraway star. You might, he wrote, "see the earth at this moment as it existed at the time of Abraham." As for Bernstein, he wrote about a great cosmic postal service for which the past and the present were outdated concepts. If you traveled faster than light, you could deliver mail to historical figures.
 

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I found this on the topic... I like the words " Works of speculative fiction" and we use the words Science Fiction today...



Time travel was a popular theme for science fiction stories of the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. A story by Eberty, “The Stars and World History,” published in 1846, explores the idea of humans being able to travel faster than the speed of light and thus being able to travel so far away that they could only observe events on earth many centuries after these events had taken place. Not everyone saw the link between science fiction and mainstream scientific theories as a good thing though.

Henri Bergson, a philosopher, disparagingly likened Einstein’s treatment of time as a fourth dimension in the theory of relativity to H.G. Wells’ treatment of the same subject in his novel The Time Machine, implying that the statements made by Einstein were no less fictional than those made by Wells.
 

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I found Einstien's advice about literature a sample read the link...


Albert Einstein shared neither Lewis’ religion nor Bulwar-Lytton’s love of semicolons, but he did share both their outlook on reading the ancients. Einstein approached the subject in terms of modern arrogance and ignorance and the bias of presentism, writing in a 1952 journal article:

Somebody who only reads newspapers and at best books of contemporary authors looks to me like an extremely near-sighted person who scorns eyeglasses. He is completely dependent on the prejudices and fashions of his times, since he never gets to see or hear anything else. And what a person thinks on his own without being stimulated by the thoughts and experiences of other people is even in the best case rather paltry and monotonous.
There are only a few enlightened people with a lucid mind and style and with good taste within a century. What has been preserved of their work belongs among the most precious possessions of mankind. We owe it to a few writers of antiquity (Plato, Aristotle, etc.) that the people in the Middle Ages could slowly extricate themselves from the superstitions and ignorance that had darkened life for more than half a millennium.
Nothing is more needed to overcome the modernist’s snobbishness.
 

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I was listening to an old Radiolab show and it was about Einstein. He read one German science fiction writer a bunch and another writer wrote about a time traveler traveling at the speed of light. @rittmeister one was a Prussian...


Already in the edition of 1855, Bernstein published ideas on space, time and the speed of light which had appeared in the anonymous treatise The Stars and the Earth (German: Die Gestirne und die Weltgeschichte) written by 'an unknown clear-sighted thinker.'[4] It was not until 1874 when a new German edition appeared that the name of the author – Felix Eberty – was made public. When this edition was re-published in 1923, Albert Einstein wrote a preface.[5][6]


As a young boy, Albert Einstein had read a book by Aaron Bernstein, entitled The People's Book on Natural Science. In one section, Bernstein asked the reader to imagine riding alongside a current of electricity as it raced down a telegraph wire. This image stuck in young Albert's mind, and when he was 16, he began to wonder what a light beam would look like if he could catch up to it. As a child, he thought that a light beam would appear frozen, like a motionless wave, if one were racing alongside it. But no one had ever observed frozen light, and he began to wonder why this might be.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PhilosophyofScience/comments/171vwg

Aaron Bernstein wrote a series of popular science books that Einstein was introduced to at age 10 by a student boarder at the family house. Einstein himself later stated that he had read them "with breathless attention".

In one volume, Bernstein describes a thought experiment involving a speeding train and the constancy of the speed of light which likely influenced Einstein's own thought experiment as a 16 year old, and perhaps those in his 1905 special relativity paper. In another volume, Bernstein speculated about the existence of gravity waves. Like Einstein, Bernstein was also eager to tie together all of nature's forces. The philosophy of science underlying Bernstein's writings seemed to mirror Einstein's later scientific realism and trust in the power of rational thought over experiment. For example, Bernstein wrote of the discovery of Uranus: "Praised be this science! Praised be the men who do it! And praised be the human mind, which sees more sharply than does the human eye."

Here is a passage (pp 18-19) from a recent biography of Einstein which describes in more detail, the influence Bernstein's books had on his development. For those who can read German, here is the excerpt from the Bernstein book describing the light thought experiment. An English translation of a different volume by Bernstein can be found here.


This raises the question of how strongly childhood preconceptions influenced the later physics and philosophy of science of Einstein and other physicists.
Here is the other writer


While he was still working in the judicial service, Eberty published the 28-page work The Stars and World History in Breslau under the pseudonym FY. Thoughts about space, time and eternity. [3] It was translated into English and published in London in the same year - without an author being named. [4] A year later, Eberty published a supplement, still as FY, and under the same title with the addition of II. Heft . [5] In the foreword he points out that the English edition of the first issue is not authorized.

In 1855, in the first edition of his Natural Science People's Books, Aaron Bernstein presented observations about space, time and the speed of light that "an unknown, sharp-sighted thinker" had made in an anonymous writing. [6] Albert Einstein read these popular science books in his youth, which are considered to have shaped his interests and his future career. [7]

In 1874 Eberty published a second German edition, this time under his full name. [8] The work has since enjoyed great success in England and the USA. In the preface to the 1874 edition, Eberty states that the sixth edition was already sold out in London in 1854. [9] W. von Voigts-Rhetz considered this edition to be the work of an English-speaking anonymous person and translated it into German in 1859. [10]

Albert Einstein wrote a preface for a new edition of Eberty's work in 1923. [11]

In his 2006 book Between the Stars: Photo Archives, the image scientist Karl Clausberg claims an influence of Eberty's writing on Camille Flammarion , Hermann von Helmholtz , Albert Einstein , Ludwig Klages and Thure von Uexküll , as well as on Walter Benjamin . [12] He included Eberty's writing as a facsimile in his book and commented on it extensively. [13]

The Einstein biographer Jürgen Nephew also sees an influence on the young Albert Einstein and writes about Eberty's writing: “Here you can also find a crucial idea about the special theory of relativity: the moment travels with light.” [14] The scientific justification for “such Einstein later delivered fantasies


A link...


And as it turns out, the ideas in several stories may have provided inspiration for some of Albert Einstein's theories. What's more, Einstein used stories to explain complex concepts to lay audiences. In particular, he relied on the fiction of writers named Felix Eberty and Aaron Bernstein. "He recalled devouring Bernstein's work, in particular, 'with breathless attention,' and it may have inspired one of the conjectures that led to his special theory of relativity," writes Jimena Canales in The New Yorker.

In his 1846 story "The Stars and World History," Eberty speculated on what might happen if humans could travel faster than the speed of light. He also wondered what would you would see if you observed events that had unfolded on Earth from a faraway star. You might, he wrote, "see the earth at this moment as it existed at the time of Abraham." As for Bernstein, he wrote about a great cosmic postal service for which the past and the present were outdated concepts. If you traveled faster than light, you could deliver mail to historical figures.
took me a bit (i didn't know them) but neither of those two wrote science fiction so why on earth do you say otherwise
 

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that's not scifi, it's popular science
Their works were put into popular science but they were "Works of speculative fiction" which science fiction is part of as well. I noted this back in post 5# of this thread. I doubt there was a a bookshelf for science fiction work in the mid to early 19th-century book stores or libraries.

There is a lot of debate around what books actually fall under the label of speculative fiction. Dictionary.com defines it as “a broad literary genre encompassing any fiction with supernatural, fantastical, or futuristic elements,” which means all our fave fantasy/sci-fi/dystopian books are technically speculative fiction.

Plus, RadioLab called them science fiction writers. I think you could write a scholarly work making these two guys the first science fiction writers in German history instead of Lasswitz...

you were saying?
Wiki says it was translated in 1971...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Planets

Here is Amazon itas 400 pages and it's the abridged version...


A pricey book...


 

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Their works were put into popular science but they were "Works of speculative fiction" which science fiction is part of as well. I noted this back in post 5# of this thread. I doubt there was a a bookshelf for science fiction work in the mid to early 19th-century book stores or libraries.

There is a lot of debate around what books actually fall under the label of speculative fiction. Dictionary.com defines it as “a broad literary genre encompassing any fiction with supernatural, fantastical, or futuristic elements,” which means all our fave fantasy/sci-fi/dystopian books are technically speculative fiction.

Plus, RadioLab called them science fiction writers. I think you could write a scholarly work making these two guys the first science fiction writers in German history instead of Lasswitz...
they were not - they speculated about scientific issues. there was nothing remotely fictional in their works
 

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Here is a baker who was a great mathematician and admired by Einstein... His windmill still standing...



George Green (14 July 1793 – 31 May 1841) was a British mathematical physicist who wrote An Essay on the Application of Mathematical Analysis to the Theories of Electricity and Magnetism in 1828.[2][3] The essay introduced several important concepts, among them a theorem similar to the modern Green's theorem, the idea of potential functions as currently used in physics, and the concept of what are now called Green's functions. Green was the first person to create a mathematical theory of electricity and magnetism and his theory formed the foundation for the work of other scientists such as James Clerk Maxwell, William Thomson, and others. His work on potential theory ran parallel to that of Carl Friedrich Gauss.

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School In 1801, at the age of eight years, young George Green started school at Mr Goodacre’s Academy in Nottingham. George’s father was a baker in the town and the school fees must have been a considerable expense for him. Perhaps George was already showing signs of the genius for mathematics that became evident in his later life. His cousin, William Tomlin, writing after George Green’s death, said that ‘at a very early age . . . he pursued with undeviating constancy the same as in his mature years an intense application to mathematics.’ Mr Goodacre was a noted teacher and one who encouraged scientific enquiry, equipping the school with such instruments as a barometer, thermometer, air pump, an orrery to show the motion of the moon and planets and astronomical telescopes. George flourished at the school and William Tomlin tells us that George’s ‘profound knowledge in the mathematics’ soon exceeded his schoolmaster’s. However, George attended the Academy for only four terms, leaving at the age of nine years to work in his father’s bakery. A Working Miller Goodacre’s Academy The bakery prospered and in 1807 Mr Green bought a plot of land in Sneinton, then a village outside of the town of Nottingham, where he built the fine brick windmill which still stands to this day. Later the family moved out of the town to a splendid new house next to the mill. The mill and Mill House c.1860 Intellectual opportunity At some time Mr Green appointed as mill manager William Smith who took residence in the cottage built onto the side of the mill. He had a daughter Jane who, at the age of twenty two, bore George Green a daughter. Jane and George never married although over a relationship lasting some sixteen years they had seven children in all. Perhaps old Mr Green did not approve of his son marrying the daughter of an employee. Or perhaps it has something to do with George’s other life as a mathematician. As we shall see George eventually became a Fellow at Cambridge University, a condition of which at that time was that one had to be unmarried. In 1823 George Green joined the Bromley House Library in Nottingham. At a time before the establishment of a University in Nottingham, Bromley House was the meeting place of intellectuals and academics, the setting for cultural activities, lectures and exhibitions. The library gave George access to some scientific publications, for example the Transactions of the Royal Society, and his introduction to the world of learning wherein he was later to achieve so much. The library still exists in Nottingham, an oasis of calm in the bustle of the busy city centre. The President of the library at that time was the Rev. Robert White Almond, a mathematics graduate and probably someone who encouraged George’s interests. Another notable local mathematician who almost certainly helped George was the Rev. John Toplis, Headmaster of the Free Grammar School. Toplis was very dissatisfied with the style of mathematics taught in England at that time, a style which still used the old Newtonian notation. Toplis championed the work of Leibnitz, a German contemporary of Newton, who used a different way of writing mathematics, one which is used to this day. Scientists on the Continent had made great advances in applying mathematics to the understanding of problems in physics but little of this had become known in England. Toplis tried to remedy this, for example with his translation of the Mécanique Céleste by LaPlace. George Green and his family lived around the corner from Toplis for some time and, despite direct evidence, it is inconceivable that the two men, with such a particular interest in common and in such a small society, did not have much to share. The Essay of 1828 What we do know is that in 1828, at the age of thirty five years, George published his greatest work ‘An Essay on the Application of Mathematical Analysis to the Theories of Electricity and Magnetism’. Published at the author’s expense, it had fifty-one subscribers, about half of whom were members of Bromley House Library. They each paid the large sum of seven shillings and sixpence for their copy though few could have understood any part of it nor have had any idea of the significance of the event. The ideas and concepts in it were in advance of their time, written in the unfamiliar Continental notation and containing ideas and techniques which are known to this day as Green’s functions and Green’s Theorem. In the Essay Green applied mathematical analysis or calculation to the contemporary theories of electricity and magnetism. It was one of the f irst attempts to apply mathematical theory to electrical phenomena and was of such importance that it has been described as ‘the beginning of mathematical physics in England’ and ‘a major work of striking originality’ whose publication was the ‘most significant event
 

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Albert Einstein knew all three of these guys out of Pittsburgh. All of them were friends with the Widow Myers family who saved the life of George Washington Christmas day by pulling him out of Turtle Creek. The Myers family received their land grant at Turtle Creek next to Braddock's Field from the Penn Brothers who were William Penn's twin sons. From the records of the families of Turtle Creek. The painting is directly out of the Widow Myers Tavern Book. Records are also out of the Cooke family of Jack Kent Cooke who married Barbara Jean Carnegie. Somehow he knew Dan Rooney who was into Lewis and Clark and a very old riverboat family named Myers who were part of the Gratz family of Gratz PA.
 

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I will tell you what it's like for me. It's like being at Trump's Ferry West Virginia and having Dr Booth Kennedy telling everyone including John Brown not to take Tylenol.
 

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This video shows the books that inspired Carl Sagan ....

 

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and to think Thomas Edison is hanging out in Sunbury PA with Henry Ford. From the family records of the Glenn Alden Coal Mines.
 

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Edison...



Almost as soon as Thomas Edison became famous for his invention of the phonograph in early 1878 journalists and writers began to depict him as the “Inventor of the Age,” capable of producing any invention he set his mind to and as the embodiment of the forces of science and technology that were transforming the modern world. Some of the earliest accounts played humorously with his growing legend. The first was New York Daily Graphic reporter William Croffut’s fantastical April Fool’s story of Edison’s machine for manufacturing food out of “air, water and common earth.”
 

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Yes, and Carl Sagan used to read the "Mars" series by Edgar Rice Burroughs.

Unfortunately, today we have the Lincoln series of science-fiction, called "Fourscore and Seven" something.

But it claims to be NON-fiction!

The series claims that the US engaged in a temporal war in 1861-1865; which supposedly changed events in 1776 from what actually happened the first time.

The writings SERIOUSLY CLAIM that the states formed a national union in 1776, which was political superior to the states; and that this national union has persisted ever since-- ironically while claiming that the states were NEVER 13 separate sovereign nations.

And the worst part is: that's today's modern dogma of the US government, backed with deadly force.
 
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So was AEC head Lewis Strauss related to Albert Einstein? How about the Koch family of George Westinghouse? Just got a Christmas card from the Koch family.
 

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Even Hunter Tim Murphy was hanging at Sunbury PA around the Battle of Saratoga.
 

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Lincoln series of science-fiction,
I tried to verify your assertion about a Lincoln series, unless you are being facetious... I do have a series for you which will make your fantasies come true... an alternative history of the Civil War and into the future... I think they will enjoy them for @O' Be Joyful did...



The Southern Victory series consists of 11 books, published between 1997 and 2007. The first book in the series is How Few Remain, and the remaining 10 form three sub-series: The Great War (1998–2000) trilogy, The American Empire trilogy (2001–2003), and The Settling Accounts (2003–2007) tetralogy. (The author changed some aspects of the timeline and narrative between How Few Remain and the remainder of the series, producing some inconsistencies.)

Link next one...


The story deals with a group of time traveling members of the Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging (AWB) from an imagined 21st-century South Africa, who supply Robert E. Lee's Army of Northern Virginia with AK-47s and other advanced technology, medicine and intelligence. Their intervention results in a Confederate victory in the war. Afterwards, however, the AWB members discover that their ideas for the Confederate States and Lee's are not one and the same as they believed and the general and the men of the South have a violent falling out with the white supremacists from the future
 
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