The Southern Argument for Slavery...

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hats the harm of forces sterilization?
Is there a behavior you do that could be deemed anti social so they could justify sterilizing you...

We are giving only one purpose in life to make more humans... by nature... The right to bare children is an inalienable right so do not be so quick to toss it aside...
 

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If a family consistintly breeds criminals or a man consistintly breeds children but won't support them then hats the harm of forces sterilization?
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This has been proven many times over to be wrong - on so many levels. It's been tried throughout the centuries, too, in one form or another but...nobody's been improved by it. Whole tribes, races, ethnicities and so on have been virtually if not totally eliminated from the gene pool but still imperfect people keep popping up! The breed-them-out-and-us-in is as old as warfare - doesn't create any better human, just reinforces who won and who didn't.
 

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This has been proven many times over to be wrong - on so many levels. It's been tried throughout the centuries, too, in one form or another but...nobody's been improved by it. Whole tribes, races, ethnicities and so on have been virtually if not totally eliminated from the gene pool but still imperfect people keep popping up! The breed-them-out-and-us-in is as old as warfare - doesn't create any better human, just reinforces who won and who didn't.
I am not talking about race but Justice Oliver Wendel Holmes stated in a case about Eugenics " three generations of imbiciles is enough". If a man makes baby after baby but won't pay for them then the tax payers deserves a break.
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Is there a behavior you do that could be deemed anti social so they could justify sterilizing you...

We are giving only one purpose in life to make more humans... by nature... The right to bare children is an inalienable right so do not be so quick to toss it aside...
Screw that. I don't commit crimes and I paid for my children. Those who commit crimes and refuse to pay for their children don't deserve the right to procreate.
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  1. how many generations?
  2. who's to be sterilized? pontential moms who are dumb enough to fall for him?
i look forward for the sponsors of such a bill - i won't speculate on it, though.
Oliver Wendel Holmes said three generations of imbiciles is enough. Not a bad place to start.
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Jordan wasn't the first to advocate eugenics, that would be Darwin's cousin Francis Galton. (Think that's the name.) Galton wanted to apply Darwin's survival of the fittest theory to people and advocated marrying superior people to other superior people so that the lower class would be eliminated. Jordan, however, was the first to apply it to specific races. Naturally, his own was the one worth saving and the rest had varying degrees of worth. He was in a position as president of Stanford University to embed it into the educational system. This is part of the reason for California's unique rancheria system - no other state has it - which was supposedly to give Indians not on a reservation a piece of land to make a living, but was actually to destroy tribal unity (no one tribe had a rancheria, but a mix of unrelated peoples) and force assimilation, thereby 'improving' our race. He considered the Chinese to be possibly human and more intelligent, but Indians were totally useless creatures to be eliminated - in time, of course - from humanity's gene pool.
It seems that the pruning is always the other.
 

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you do know it's the 21st century now?
Which is not so great. Why should hard working tax payers have to support criminals and imbiciles? By now we should have close to zero crime and yes cull the herd.
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We need basic grammar tests before breeding.
Better than during breeding.
why not proactively sterilize everybody without a highschool degree and test the rest - the taxpayer doesn't want to fund tests for people who'd never pass them anyway?
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It seems that the pruning is always the other.
:) But of course! This is why the cultures and accomplishments of Africa were suppressed for so long, to justify slavery and keeping former slaves and their descendants on a lower rung. The Egyptians couldn't be ignored but there were a lot of kingdoms and empires in Africa. Many Africans were educated in Persia or India, quite an exchange there for some time. One king is still considered the richest guy ever - his little gift to Egypt crashed their economy! Oops... Mustafa I, I think that was.
 

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You misspelled four words in one sentence. Report to the sterilization center, stat!
To goddam late for that . I my son's are grown. My oldest has been in the Marines for seven years and just passed the Marine Martial Arts Instructor Training Program where he actually teaches Marine Corps Martial Arts Instructors and certifies them. My second son is an account at age 23 with a B. .A. in accounting working for a major accounting firm.
Why should I have to pay for dead beat dad's and families that just produce criminals?
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Is there a behavior you do that could be deemed anti social so they could justify sterilizing you...

We are giving only one purpose in life to make more humans... by nature... The right to bare children is an inalienable right so do not be so quick to toss it aside...
Of course that includes rapist's and mass murderers.
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Of course that includes rapist's and mass murderers.
Rapist and murders... you know you can not pass on criminal behavior... The Sociopath gene is pass on the women if they carry it... If a person with the sociopath gene is raised in a loving family, They are termed Type A sociopath meaning they can make bonds with other people... but they still treat many other people like shit... but tend to function successfully within society...
 
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