The Permafrost is Melting not a Carbon Sink Anymore...

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This describes us... where is your reason gone...lol

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Years 2023, 2024 and 2025 are set to be the hottest years ever recorded, with this year on track to be the second or third hottest ever in 176 years of record keeping, the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) said in the report released on Thursday in advance of next week’s COP30 UN climate summit in Brazil.

Together, these developments make “it clear that it will be virtually impossible to limit global warming to 1.5C [2.7F] in the next few years,” WMO chief Celeste Saulo said in a statement, referring to the 2015 Paris climate accords.
 

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Years 2023, 2024 and 2025 are set to be the hottest years ever recorded, with this year on track to be the second or third hottest ever in 176 years of record keeping, the World Meteorological Organization (WMO) said in the report released on Thursday in advance of next week’s COP30 UN climate summit in Brazil.

Together, these developments make “it clear that it will be virtually impossible to limit global warming to 1.5C [2.7F] in the next few years,” WMO chief Celeste Saulo said in a statement, referring to the 2015 Paris climate accords.
Yes, controlling the weather IS virtually impossible-- in EITHER direction.
 

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You sure picked the WRONG time to post that.


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Old CRAZY Al... always good for a laugh.

Speaking of which....

" Of all the preposterous assumptions of humanity over humanity, nothing exceeds most of the criticisms made on the habits of the poor by the well-housed, well-warmed, and well-fed."... Herman Melville
Like Al Gore in his MANSIONS, telling everyone ELSE to do without fossil fuels for basic ENERGY needs.

"The further society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it."... George Orwell
And call them DENIERS.
 
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Arctic melting, CANNOT be caused by human activity warming the atmosphere from increased CO2....

.... while ANTARCTIC ice is INCREASING (which it HAS BEEN, for as long as it has been measured.

Both exist in the SAME atmosphere, after all, and CO2 is evenly distributed worldwide by atmospheric turbulence.

Rather, this difference in polar ice, proves a LOCALIZED GEOTHERMAL cause..... which CAN differ, just like some places have more VOLCANOES than others.
 

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You realize the North Pole is free of ice at during the year... You know the permafrost is melting...

The North Pole is not permanently free of ice, but it is experiencing significant, rapid ice loss during summer months due to global warming, which causes the sea ice to melt and shrink. This phenomenon, often termed an "ice-free" Arctic, means the area becomes open water or very thin, fragmented ice in the summer.
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Key Reasons for Reduced Sea Ice:
  • Rapid Climate Change: The Arctic is warming at a faster rate than the rest of the planet, leading to the dramatic loss of multiyear ice.
  • Loss of "Albedo" Effect: As white, reflective ice melts, it exposes dark ocean water, which absorbs more sunlight and increases, leading to a self-reinforcing cycle of melting.
  • Ocean Circulation: Warmer, saltier waters from the Atlantic Ocean are flowing into the Arctic, preventing ice formation and speeding up melting.
  • Shifting Winds: Changes in wind patterns can push ice out of the central Arctic, exposing open water even in colder seasons.
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While the North Pole has historically been covered in sea ice year-round, scientists warn that "nearly ice-free" summers are becoming the new norm.
 

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You know Alaska rivers are turning orange from climate change...

 

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You realize the North Pole is free of ice at during the year... You know the permafrost is melting...
And you CLAIM that this is caused by atmospheric warming from increased man made CO2.

However this is impossible, because the SOUTH pole ice is INCREASING.... since a greenhouse cause, would increase GLOBAL temperatures EVENLY.

Meanwhile a LOCALIZED shift like this, implies a GEOTHERMAL cause.

As I already explained.
 

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You the deniers will be the death of a habitable earth....

The "wetting" or significant melting of large, antique ice sheets—specifically the Greenland Ice Sheet and sections of the Antarctic Ice Sheet—is occurring now and is projected to accelerate rapidly within this century due to human-caused climate change.
Recent studies highlight that parts of these ice sheets are more vulnerable than previously thought:
Greenland Ice Sheet (Prudhoe Dome): A study found this ice dome melted completely about 7,000 years ago during a previous warm period. Projections indicate we could reach those same temperatures again by 2100, making a similar melting event highly likely.
Greenland General: The ice sheet is currently melting two to five times faster than before 1850. If temperatures rise by 1.7°C to 2.3°C, substantial melting is considered inevitable, with the potential for total disappearance over the next 1,000 to 10,000 years.
Antarctic Ice Sheet (West): This sector is considered very vulnerable to warming. Research shows it has previously experienced significant melt during earlier, slightly warmer periods, suggesting it could experience rapid, large-scale melting if current warming continues.
Rapid Retreat Timeline: Models suggest that under high-emission scenarios, significant portions of Antarctic and Greenland ice could experience accelerated collapse, contributing over 2 meters of sea-level rise by 2100.

Current State (2024-2025): The Antarctic Ice Sheet for the 2024–2025 season began with above-average melt extents, although some regions saw a decrease in melt by February 2025.
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That accusation simply proves that you do not know the FIRST THING about science.

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The burden of scientific proof is on the CLAIMANT...

''a burden which FAILED, they have.''

There has NEVER been an official published theory on Climate Change, which has been accepted by the global scientific community as valid.

Just a lot of TALK... which is NOTHING.
 

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Just a lot of TALK... which is NOTHING.
I do discuss stuff with you for you just want to ignore the truth...


Sea ice in the Arctic region has declined in recent decades in area and volume due to climate change. It has been melting more in summer than it refreezes in winter. Global warming, caused by greenhouse gas forcing is responsible for the decline in Arctic sea ice. The decline of sea ice in the Arctic has been accelerating during the early twenty-first century, with a decline rate of 4.7% per decade (it has declined over 50% since the first satellite records).[1][2][3] Summertime sea ice will likely disappear sometime during the 21st century.[

You know the history of the Northwest passages... Climate change is coming...


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