The Contest for the Forth Industrial Revolution...

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You know we are in a contest with China about who will dominate the forth industrial revolution. WE may have lost already... The article is long but it shows, we need to be more competitive more government investment... our new cold war...

Snip... https://www.brookings.edu/testimoni...contest-for-the-fourth-industrial-revolution/

China believes it is well-positioned to outcompete the United States in the competition for the Fourth Industrial Revolution and that it has four main advantages: (1) heavy investment in R&D; (2) superior institutions and industrial policies supporting China’s ambitions; (3) manufacturing prowess and centrality to global supply chains; and (4) a more robust operation to set the global technology standards that could determine the future of key industries.

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First, China has learned from U.S. history in crafting its own approach to basic science research. Beijing recognizes, as the United States once did, that such research cannot be supported entirely by the market and the private sector and instead must be supported by the public. China’s investments have been enormous. The National Science Foundation estimates that China’s total R&D spending is roughly equivalent to U.S. spending even though China’s economy is smaller.[10] By some estimates, China’s government-funded R&D also already exceeds U.S. federal R&D spending. And in the technologies central to the Fourth Industrial Revolution, the differences are significant. China spends roughly $2.5 billion annually, a modest sum that is nonetheless estimated to be more than ten times what the U.S. spends in a sector with critical economic and strategic potential.[11] In addition to that annual spending, Beijing also plans to spend some $10 billion to build the National Laboratory for Quantum Information Sciences.[12] Similarly, in artificial intelligence, China spends at least as much as the United States and likely more, according to estimates from Georgetown’s Center for Security and Emerging Technology.[13]


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Second, China believes its institutions are better designed to mobilize the state, society, and market to wield industrial policy to achieve the country’s technological ambitions. For example, the Study Times commentary cited previously noted that institutions are key to seizing technological leadership, which in turn buttresses hegemonic ambitions – this is why, it argued, Britain replaced Spain, the United States replaced Britain, and why China might supplant the United States. The commentary followed countless similar commentaries in China arguing that the polarized U.S. political system was underperforming relative to China’s system.[14] As a result, it argued, “the emergence of a new round of scientific and technological revolution and industrial transformation is conductive to China’s institutional advantages and to achieving ‘overtaking by curve,’” a reference to sprinting ahead as a competitor slows down or mishandles a turn around a racetrack.

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Third, Chinese sources suggest an understanding even though the United States may have superior innovation capabilities relative to China, in many industries, that advantage matters little without manufacturing capabilities and will almost certainly evaporate unless they return. Chinese scholars see the country’s centrality to global manufacturing and supply chains as an enormous strategic advantage; in contrast, they argue that the United States has allowed “the hollowing out of its industrial base” which means it cannot convert its innovations into products without China’s factories. This dependence on China’s manufacturing capability – when combined with China’s large numbers of engineers, its penchant for reverse-engineering, and robust state support – gives it long-term advantages in the competition with the United States.[19] As the researcher Dan Wang notes, “China remains unmatched as a manufacturing site given its numbers of skilled workers, deep supplier networks and the government’s credible public support for manufacturers and provision of reliable infrastructure.”[20] Even amid the pandemic, companies like Tesla are deeply invested in China while others like Honeywell have announced new investments in Wuhan, China.

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Fourth, China is increasingly focused on setting standards in technical bodies relative to the United States. China’s objectives include promoting its industries, earning lucrative royalties when its patents are used, and embedding its values and governance approaches in the architecture of technology. This year, China released its China Standard 2035 Plan as part of an effort to advance its standards globally. Even before this plan was announced, however, China had already grown influential in key bodies like the Third Generation Partnership Project (3GPP) and the International Telecommunication Union (ITU) and in some cases sought to shift standard-setting discussions to bodies where its influence was greater. Chinese firms are expected to gain enormous royalties from having succeeded in the competition over 5G standards. Moreover, with respect to governance, Chinese companies like ZTE have proposed standards for street light architecture that would allow video monitoring capabilities to be built in; for facial recognition that would require specific and extraneous demographic and biometric data to be stored; and for a new internet architecture that would advantage monitoring, censorship, and control.[21] Beijing’s success in these bodies is in part a product of its successful investments in next-generation technologies like 5G but also the more “hands-on” approach the Party appears to take relative to the more industry-led and “hands-off” approach that the United States takes. Although many standard-setting bodies are primarily comprised of companies that are supposed to vote based on their own interests, at least in China’s cases, companies like Lenovo that initially voted to endorse approaches backed by U.S. companies were criticized by nationalists for doing so and pressured to instead endorse approaches backed by major Chinese companies like Huawei. As Lenovo’s leadership team noted in an apologetic message posted online, “We all unanimously believe that Chinese companies should unite and should not allow outsiders to play them against each other.”[22] If China’s efforts continue to be successful, Beijing may be able to lock-in its approaches and extend its lead in certain key global technologies to the detriment of universal values and U.S.
 

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The forth revolution in skill training.... we need to plan our Forth industrial revolution... inequality is has a lot to do with skill training or lack of it...

LINK: https://www.usnews.com/news/nationa...obs-plan-for-the-fourth-industrial-revolution

Indeed, a 2018 Gallup poll revealed that a majority of Americans between the ages of 18 to 29 has a positive view of socialism, while only 45% in this age group has a positive view of capitalism. By comparison, those between the ages of 50 to 64 favor capitalism by 60% to 30%.
While a number of driving societal forces and biases can explain income inequality, economists have long viewed skill-based technological change as one of the main reasons behind these stark income differences. Understanding that technology is a principal cause is critical so that technological skill development can be a factor in any solution, particularly in an era when politicians instead focus on immigration or low-cost goods imported from overseas.

Indeed, many of the country's highest paying jobs are technology oriented, requiring some specialized training, if not necessarily an advanced degree. According to a 2018 report prepared by Glassdoor, many of the highest paying jobs are in technology. And while technology is already an integral part of our economy, it is only going to become more important as we progress to the next phase of our economy.
 

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China is the one in the forth industrial revolution...

LINK: https://thediplomat.com/2019/09/u-s-china-trade-war-and-the-fourth-industrial-revolution/

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As a strategic plan made by a major world economy in the face the fourth industrial revolution, China’s plan has been built on significant achievements realized during the past few decades: China holds one of the most complete industrial systems and supply-chains in the world and its manufacturing industry ranks first in the world in terms of size and total volume. More importantly, China has already become a world leader in nationwide infrastructure and telecommunication “interconnectivity,” and this is particularly important for various innovative industrial applications and appliances in the fourth industrial revolution.

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If China continues to realize more qualitative achievements as it indeed has been trying to do so, then who will be the true leader in the fourth industrial revolution that may once again fundamentally change the political, economic, and social landscape of the world?
 

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Video the Forth Industrial Revolution...

 

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It maybe to late for the US to play catch up. At least per official Chinese sources CV19 simply isn't an issue in China. The US is in heavy debt. The US is possibly on the brink of a civil war come November 4th. China spends Les GDP on defense. Education is not a priority in the US.
The US may arguably by in the decline similar to the British in the 20th Century.
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Here shows the hopes of the 1990's did not work out but I think in the long run it will Singapore was a prosperous dictatorship that move towards democracy over time without us pushing them... click on the NPR link...

 

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Here is Biden knows the fourth industrial revolution...

Commenting on which candidate is closest to his view of the world, Yang said, “The only person who has taken me aside and said that we need to worry about the fourth industrial revolution because it could potentially tear our country apart is Joe Biden.

Here Biden on the Fourth Industrial revolution... and the threat,,,

 

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Africa NOW!!!! Fourth Industrial Revolution...

"We hear about the Fourth Industrial Revolution, and a lot of people thought it was a distant thought. They didn't realise that they are actually living it - if you're not able to move and see customers, how do you transact?"

 

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Here shows the hopes of the 1990's did not work out but I think in the long run it will Singapore was a prosperous dictatorship that move towards democracy over time without us pushing them... click on the NPR link...

Singapore has about has many people as the city of Los Angeles. It's not a great comparison to the US.
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Here we are fighting the last war buying expensive outdated weapon systems...

 

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Here we are fighting the last war buying expensive outdated weapon systems...

The US can win any conventional war but wars in the future will be won or lost as insurgency wars.
The US easily beat the Iraqi and Afganhistan armies ( using that term loosely with respect to Afghanistan under the Taliban) but could not beat the insurgency.
In Iraq the US split the insurgency by making deals with Sunni tribal leaders. Once the US left ISIS gained the upper hand by mobilizing young Sunnis against their tribal leaders.
Counterinsurgency is a tough long struggle at best and Americans hate long wars.
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The fourth...


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We’re on the cusp of a new technological era—the Fourth Industrial Revolution, or 4IR—which will likely be the fastest and most substantial digital shift in history. And businesses know how important it is to adapt and keep apace. According to the Global Poll: Impact of the 4th Industrial Revolution by Quadrant Strategies, close to 1,200 information technology decision-makers (ITDMs) believe that recent changes to business operations, ushered in by this new wave of technological innovation, will be responsible for long-term shifts in strategy. So as we look toward 2021, it’s crucial to understand how these leading-edge businesses are changing their DNA to thrive in the exciting years to come.

“Companies are facing an explosion of data, connectivity, and information,” says Shaun Andrews, chief marketing officer and executive vice president at Lumen, an enterprise technology platform for next-gen business applications and data. “Those who are thriving have embraced the fact that they’re a software company, whether they’re in finance, manufacturing, or government. They’ve set up a strategy and fast-tracked the skills and the technology needed to analyze the data and do something with it.”
 

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Here another showing the China owns the fourth industrial revolution...

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Artificial Intelligence (AI) is shaking up the global pecking order, allowing many smaller countries to stand tall in a new competitive landscape. Established metrics such as gross domestic product (GDP) can tell you at a glance which are the world’s largest economies. But, according to a new report, they won’t tell you which ones are most likely to succeed in a new AI-driven world.

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China may be in second place right now, but its government-driven industrial policies have committed to a level of AI spending this decade that will eclipse the US. According to Tortoise, the value of China’s AI spending plans are “one-and-a-half times greater than every other country in the world – combined”. It already spends more than the US on AI research.
 

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Here is where China is crushing the world in Super Computers they have 100 more than we do or the have double the supercomputers we have... This is the true threat to our and the world future...


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The number of TOP500 installations in China continues to rise and now sits at 227, up from 219 six months ago. Meanwhile, the share of US-based system remains near its all-time low at 118. However, systems in the US are on average significantly larger, which translated to a 37.8 percent share of the list’s aggregate performance. China is close behind with a 31.9 percent performance share. However, compared to six months ago, this performance gap has shrunk. The June 2019 list had the US with a 38.4 percent of the list’s aggregate performance and China with 29.9 percent.

Japan remains in third place in the number of TOP500 systems, with 29, followed by France with 18, Germany with 16, the Netherlands with 15, Ireland with 14, and the United Kingdom with 11. All other countries were in the single digits.


Here is another report explain why they are the threat...


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The U.S. Commerce Department said the seven added to the Entity List were "involved with building supercomputers used by China's military actors, its destabilizing military modernization efforts, and/or weapons of mass destruction programs."

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"Supercomputing capabilities are vital for the development of many -- perhaps almost all -- modern weapons and national security systems, such as nuclear weapons and hypersonic weapons," Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo said in a statement.
 

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here is a link that gives details how these Supercomputers will give China the edge in both the economic and military arenas...

https://www.gisreportsonline.com/computing-chinas-future,defense,2355.html

Snip... It only took them 15years to catch and pass the world in supercomputers...

In 2007, China possessed only 13 of the world’s fastest 500 supercomputers. By June 2017, the TOP500 rankings list announced that this number had soared to 160, putting the Chinese just behind the United States with 168. Most impressive, however, is the fact the world’s fastest supercomputer, the Sunway TaihuLight, at the National Supercomputing Center in Wuxi, near Shanghai, runs on Chinese-made processors. Just 10 years earlier, China’s fastest computer was powered by imported technology and ranked 43rd globally.

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The origins of China’s supercomputing reach back to the late 1980s, when the World Bank funded a project with China’s State Planning Commission to set up networking facilities across China. These centers are now based in Tianjin, Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen and Guangzho

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High performance computing plays the role of an enabling technology for a vast array of other advances

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The next big focus at the top end of computing is exascale, otherwise known as “super supercomputers.” Exascale supercomputers, when developed, are binary machines capable of making at least a billion billion calculations per second, far greater than any computer currently in operation

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Quantum computing's less benevolent uses include breaking down the strongest encryption systems and developing artificial intelligence weapons

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@rittmeister , @Wehrkraftzersetzer .... What has your nation done.... Germany the road map for China... to follow...


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China has turned from “the American way” to “the German way,” Chen Li, a senior strategist at brokerage Soochow Securities Co., wrote in a recent presentation that was widely shared on Chinese social media.

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“The departure of Beijing from the Anglo-Saxon model has already begun,” Leung wrote in a note Monday. “The German model is a strong contender as a guiding development model.”

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China consulted German experts while writing its anti-monopoly regulations, said Peter Hefele, head of the Asia-Pacific department at Konrad-Adenauer-Stiftung, a foundation affiliated with Germany’s center-right Christian Democratic Union party. “They copied a lot from German law.

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Beijing also wants to avoid some key features of Germany’s model. It has no tolerance for independent trade unions. China has signaled it will maintain state investment at a higher rate than Germany, and wants to rely on domestic demand to drive economic growth rather than exports. While Beijing wants regulations to bind low-level officials, the top level of the ruling Communist Party has no independent check on its power.
 
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