Searching for Black Confederates by Kevin Levin

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'All Creoles and other free persons of color between the ages of 16 and 50'

How many would that be? You have the census for Mobile County, Ala.
Mobile County, 1860
FMC Ages 15-50: 260.

Ages 16 to 50 would number well over 200.
 

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"On March 24, 1865, 'All Creoles and other free persons of color between the ages of 16 and 50' received an order by D. H. Maury, the Confederate commander at Mobile, 'to report at once at these headquarters to be organized into companies for local defense.' "
-Weary of War: Life on the Confederate Homefront by Joe A Mobley, p.78
How many reported in how many companies and what was their designation.
 

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Mobile County, 1860
FMC Ages 15-50: 260.

Ages 16 to 50 would number well over 200.
All you have to do is establish they reported and were accepted into service.
 

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Respected opponent is incorrect: "The two hospital companies alone beat that number-"

Wrong as usual. The guy in charge said only 60 volunteered at Jackson Hospital. You apparently don't understand what the word "would" means.


OR Series IV Vol 3 p 1193-1.jpg

Winder Hospital apparently has no officially reported results, while newspaper reports are of uneven quality, with some of the reports merely repeating rumors and others presumably more accurate. Without an official report to corroborate the newspaper report, it must be taken with a grain of salt. For example, newspaper reports had Pegram and Turner's company at 40-50 when the actual number was 6. But of course, actual analysis is beyond proponents of the black confederate myth.

Respected opponent is incorrect: "The Mobile company (or companies) were organized in March 1865."

Apparently the distinction between proposal and execution eludes you.

Respected opponent is incorrect: "the Creoles and negroes, are organized, and will be ready to fall into the ditches around the city the moment their services are wanted."

My post took this into account. As they were not considered black by the confederacy, they don't count.
 
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"Mobile papers of the latest dates state that the negroes are enlisting in large numbers and with great enthusiasm in that city."

The tri-weekly herald. [volume] (Newberry, S.C.) 1865-1865, April 11, 1865

And what do we know about the newspapers of the time?
 

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And what do we know about the newspapers of the time?
That, there were far more newspapers then than now, and that they were extremely politicalized? Kinda, like today's media?

Only today its "social."
 

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I have seen a lot of editorial mixed with reporting, and there are definitely some out and out whoppers mixed with credible reporting. And lots and lots of commas where they really aren't needed. :)
 

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That they are a valuable source of information as often as not. Like today's news, sometimes reliable, sometimes full of fake news.
I see some of us have some things to learn about newspapers of the time.
 
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