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I love it when you quote sources.See what John B. Jones, a clerk in the confederate war department, had to say about black confederates.
I love it when you quote sources.See what John B. Jones, a clerk in the confederate war department, had to say about black confederates.
I thought you loved looking them up even better, which is why I just gave you his name instead of the quote.I love it when you quote sources.
Oh him. He was always complaining about being worn out supplying the Black Confederate Battalions w rifles and cartridges I seem to recall.I thought you loved looking them up even better, which is why I just gave you his name instead of the quote.
Fremantle'' observations just don't make sense. Lord Dunsmore already proved as early as 1775 that black troops were quite effective against the Colonial Rebels.Hmmm speaking of omissions.
From Fremantle's book. At the bottom of page 282 we find Fremantle suggesting that there were no negro soldiers.
Why oh why was this left out in the complaint against Levin.
Three months in the southern states: April-June, 1863
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All good questions with no answer I know of.Fremantle'' observations just don't make sense. Lord Dunsmore already proved as early as 1775 that black troops were quite effective against the Colonial Rebels.
Black soldiers decade's before the ACW proved themselves against French Regulars in Hatti.
How would Fremantle know if black men would be loyal to the Confederacy? Already by the summer of 1863 there were a number of Confederate defectors that joined the Union Army. Why would black men be more loyal then white men?
Kirk's Raider's
Sometimes it's helpful to have something signifying satire. Just sayin'.Oh him. He was always complaining about being worn out supplying the Black Confederate Battalions w rifles and cartridges I seem to recall.
It's almost like Fremantle was a racist who saw a very limited view of the Confederacy...Fremantle'' observations just don't make sense. Lord Dunsmore already proved as early as 1775 that black troops were quite effective against the Colonial Rebels.
Black soldiers decade's before the ACW proved themselves against French Regulars in Hatti.
How would Fremantle know if black men would be loyal to the Confederacy? Already by the summer of 1863 there were a number of Confederate defectors that joined the Union Army. Why would black men be more loyal then white men?
IMHO he would have been offered a limited view by his hosts.It's almost like Fremantle was a racist who saw a very limited view of the Confederacy...
By today's standards indeed he is. Nonetheless I have a copy of his book and definitely recommend it even though its no historically accurate in all details it's a fun read.It's almost like Fremantle was a racist who saw a very limited view of the Confederacy...
Interesting observation about all those Northern press accounts of 'Black Confederates'.The Northern journals say we have negro regiments on the Rappahannock and in the West. This is utterly untrue. We have no armed slaves to fight for us, nor do we fear a servile insurrection. We are at no loss, however, to interpret the meaning of such demoniac misrepresentations. It is to be seen of what value the negro regiments employed against us will be to the invader.
It's unfortunate that Jones doesn't record said interpretations. It would be interesting to know what a Southern thought was the reason for those Northern newspaper claims. That it revealed Southern desperation or hypocrisy? That the Yankees were idiots and liars?We are at no loss, however, to interpret the meaning of such demonic misrepresentations.
Could they be Copperhead papers trying instill fear in the Northern whites about armed slaves... Running amuckInteresting observation about all those Northern press accounts of 'Black Confederates'.
I think common take a look atIt's unfortunate that Jones doesn't record said interpretations. It would be interesting to know what a Southern thought was the reason for those Northern newspaper claims. That it revealed Southern desperation or hypocrisy? That the Yankees were idiots and liars?
Interesting too that Jones mentions claims of "negro regiments" then denies any "armed slaves". It's almost as if he considers "negro" and "slave" to be synonymous, and gives no thought to the existence of free blacks. I wonder how common that mentality was?
Occasionally the southern papers would mock such accounts. Far more often they would simply reprint them without comment, interestingly.It's unfortunate that Jones doesn't record said interpretations. It would be interesting to know what a Southern thought was the reason for those Northern newspaper claims. That it revealed Southern desperation or hypocrisy? That the Yankees were idiots and liars?
I'm not understanding all this relying on newspaper articles/opinions/comments on so-called "Black Confederates"? Was it not Confederate Government's position to make the final decision, not newspapers?Occasionally the southern papers would mock such accounts. Far more often they would simply reprint them without comment, interestingly.
Someone has to report on the CSA government's actions and that is the newspapers.I'm not understanding all this relying on newspaper articles/opinions/comments on so-called "Black Confederates"? Was it not Confederate Government's position to make the final decision, not newspapers?
Kevin Dally
Might want to make that fact known to some posters here on this BB!Someone has to report on the CSA government's actions and that is the newspapers.
Most of what we know about the only generally accepted 'Black Confederates' comes from the March 1865 Richmond newspapers. Like all primary evidence, the sifting of fact from fiction is the job of the historian.
Like all primary evidence, the sifting of fact from fiction is the job of the historian.
Before the invasion of the Revisionists popularized in this movie.Which some consider was only done, pre 1960's. Before those danged Liberals took...