Racism has Shaped Public Transit...

[5fish]

Again, racism raises its ugly head in the 20th century but this time its in our mass transit systems.

Racism has shaped public transit, and it’s riddled with inequities | Kinder Institute for Urban Research

kinder.rice.edu

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In this world, “urban” meant Black; “suburban” meant white. Urban areas were declining; suburbs were booming. Urban areas seemed dangerous; suburbs seemed safe. Downtowns were struggling to stay relevant; malls, business parks and corporate campuses in the suburbs were the future. (This way of looking at the world is, of course, still common.)

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For the “dependent riders,” transit agencies preserved and somewhat expanded urban bus (and sometimes rail) systems. But “dependent” meant they weren’t going to be picky — the primary emphasis here was on providing service, not providing a good experience. For the “choice riders,” however, agencies needed to provide great service — shiny new rail lines, and limited-stop express commuter buses — that had to be fast, reliable, comfortable and safe to get people out of their cars.

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It’s a transit planning and operations strategy built around the idea that there are two types of riders, one (assumed to be white) who needs (and deserves) great service because they have a choice, and another (largely Black) who doesn’t need anything beyond the bare minimum.


There so much more to the story closing lines to keep Black riders out... Keeping White riders from mixing with Black riders... a good read...

 

[Leftyhunter]

Again, racism raises its ugly head in the 20th century but this time its in our mass transit systems.

Racism has shaped public transit, and it’s riddled with inequities | Kinder Institute for Urban Research

kinder.rice.edu

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In this world, “urban” meant Black; “suburban” meant white. Urban areas were declining; suburbs were booming. Urban areas seemed dangerous; suburbs seemed safe. Downtowns were struggling to stay relevant; malls, business parks and corporate campuses in the suburbs were the future. (This way of looking at the world is, of course, still common.)

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For the “dependent riders,” transit agencies preserved and somewhat expanded urban bus (and sometimes rail) systems. But “dependent” meant they weren’t going to be picky — the primary emphasis here was on providing service, not providing a good experience. For the “choice riders,” however, agencies needed to provide great service — shiny new rail lines, and limited-stop express commuter buses — that had to be fast, reliable, comfortable and safe to get people out of their cars.

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It’s a transit planning and operations strategy built around the idea that there are two types of riders, one (assumed to be white) who needs (and deserves) great service because they have a choice, and another (largely Black) who doesn’t need anything beyond the bare minimum.


There so much more to the story closing lines to keep Black riders out... Keeping White riders from mixing with Black riders... a good read...

Maybe back in the day. I work armed transit security in LA and the rails are a shit hole regardless of color.
I can't tell you how many drunks and druggies I run into and at best all we can do is get them out of the station temporarily. The homeless stink up the trains and are allowed to piss and shit wherever they want and we can't arrest the. Got to love liberalism.
Leftyhunter

 

[5fish]

Got to love liberalism.

I am with you liberalism is grande...

Here a story on LA transit...

the atlantic wonders if transit is failing white people — Human Transit

How do you react when you read the following sentence? In Los Angeles, 92 percent of bus riders are people of color. This supposedly shocking fact is the starting point for Amanda Hess's confused and aggravating piece in the Atlantic today, which argues that somehow transit is failing because...

humantransit.org

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Now, how does your reaction change when I point out that in the 2010 census, just under 28% of the population of Los Angeles County is "non-Hispanic white," so over 70% can be called "people of color." Now what if I tell you that as always, transit is most concentrated in the denser parts of the county, where the demand and ridership are higher, and these areas happen to be even less "non-Hispanic white" than the county at large? (Exact figures can't be cited as this area corresponds to no government boundary.) So the bus system, weighted by where the service is concentrated, serves a population of whom much, much more than 70% could be described as "people of color".

Please don't treat these figures as too precise. The claim that "92% of Los Angeles bus riders are people of color" is impossible to fact-check because two of its key terms are ambiguous.

 

[5fish]

Here in Orlando we put in a Light Rail system and it does not go through any black areas barely brushes by some... it seem to happen in other cities as well...

Transportation Nation | Back of the Bus: Race, Mass Transit and Inequality

More than half a century after Rosa Parks refused to move to the back of the bus in Montgomery, Alabama, prompting an 11-month boycott that led to integration of that city's bus system, African Americans and Latinos are still struggling with an unequal transit system.

project.wnyc.org

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The government is paying attention now. In Oakland, California, Bay Area transit officials started planning a connector from the Oakland airport to downtown Oakland in the 1980s. The $500 million connector was slated to roll right through mostly African American Oakland neighborhoods, but, like the St. Paul line, skip through without stopping. At the same time, like every transit agency in the country right now, Oakland’s is underwater, and drastically cutting back on its bus service. Vast swaths have no buses, at all.

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But the story of Rondo and transit inequality doesn’t end with the construction of I-94. Forty-five years after the highway came through, planners chose Rondo to build a commuter light-rail line to connect Minneapolis and St. Paul. The history of Rondo has generated a great deal of unease. “The lesson of Rondo is how long its shadow is – that it happened so long ago, but we’re still in the shadow of Rondo.”

Recent policy decisions didn’t help. Originally, under a Bush-Administration policy, the project wouldn’t even have stopped in Rondo. That policy funneled federal transit dollars to rail lines that traveled long distances – but made few stops, disfavoring neighborhoods like Rondo. At the same time, under the new plan, Rondo would lose its bus service.

But in January 2010, U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood announced that the Obama administration would shift the policy one hundred and eighty degrees. “There’s no question that this administration is going to take a careful look at civil rights compliance on the part of transit agencies,” Federal Transit Administrator Peter Rogoff says. “I think it’s fair to say there wasn’t a lot of attention paid to it in recent years.”

 

[Leftyhunter]

I am with you liberalism is grande...

Here a story on LA transit...

the atlantic wonders if transit is failing white people — Human Transit

How do you react when you read the following sentence? In Los Angeles, 92 percent of bus riders are people of color. This supposedly shocking fact is the starting point for Amanda Hess's confused and aggravating piece in the Atlantic today, which argues that somehow transit is failing because...

humantransit.org

snip...

Now, how does your reaction change when I point out that in the 2010 census, just under 28% of the population of Los Angeles County is "non-Hispanic white," so over 70% can be called "people of color." Now what if I tell you that as always, transit is most concentrated in the denser parts of the county, where the demand and ridership are higher, and these areas happen to be even less "non-Hispanic white" than the county at large? (Exact figures can't be cited as this area corresponds to no government boundary.) So the bus system, weighted by where the service is concentrated, serves a population of whom much, much more than 70% could be described as "people of color".

Please don't treat these figures as too precise. The claim that "92% of Los Angeles bus riders are people of color" is impossible to fact-check because two of its key terms are ambiguous.

I have taken public transit for years and the author is full of shit.Santa Monica and Culver City is majority white and they have there own municipal bus system that also transfers to other municipal transit systems.
Leftyhunter

 

[Mike12]

Again Eisenhower spear-headed most federal highways replacing dirtroads in the South like the FDR WPA before gets southern historical notice. Get in the Commute lane, federal! I've never been over the Mason-Dixon line more than a week vacation, and I tell you what, they can vanish if they want to, not too sure...

 

[5fish]

Again Eisenhower spear-headed most federal highways replacing dirtroads in the South like the FDR WPA before gets southern historical notice. Get in the Commute lane, federal! I've never been over the Mason-Dixon line more than a week vacation, and I tell you what, they can vanish if they want to, not too sure...

I am starting to think you are either corrupting's the English language or being cryptic with the English language to laugh at us... Its kind of like the old Far Side comics something you would think the writer was laughing at you because there was no real joke in his cartoon just a picture...

 

[Leftyhunter]

I am starting to think you are either corrupting's the English language or being cryptic with the English language to laugh at us... Its kind of like the old Far Side comics something you would think the writer was laughing at you because there was no real joke in his cartoon just a picture...

Or @Mike12 is just a troll or batshit crazy. We can ignore him/her. As I have stated before I deal with drug addicts and alcoholics on a daily basis and they more more sense the @Mike12 even when high or drunk.
Leftyhunter

 

[Mike12]

Or @Mike12 is just a troll or batshit crazy. We can ignore him/her. As I have stated before I deal with drug addicts and alcoholics on a daily basis and they more more sense the @Mike12 even when high or drunk.
Leftyhunter

I've never had a drop of alcohol or drugs, I've never been batshit crazy, I've never trolled anywhere, and good day to this board that doesn't deserve patronage? Is that right?

 

[rittmeister]

@Leftyhunter, @5fish, @Mike12 and @everybody else: that nonsense and name calling stops here and now. ... because if not ... or respectively

i would however highly recommend to have everybody proofread their posts before hitting the reply button - there's a preview button right next to it

 

[jgoodguy]

View attachment 5418 @Leftyhunter, @5fish, @Mike12 and @everybody else: that nonsense and name calling stops here and now. ... because if not ... View attachment 5419 or View attachment 5420 respectively

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