Pat Cleburne's Modest Proposal to End Slavery in the Confederacy

[PatYoung]

This week marks the anniversary of General Pat Cleburne's Confederate Emancipation proposal. The Irish Confederate met with commanders in the Western Theater to explain why ending slavery was the only hope the Confederates had for winning the war. This article looks at the specifics of Cleburne's famous proposition. At the time it was illegal for Blacks to enlist in the Confederate Army. This series examines Cleburne's proposal and its rejection by the Confederate government.

Pat Cleburne: The Irish Confederate’s “Emancipation Proclamation” - Long Island Wins

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[Jim Klag]

This week marks the anniversary of General Pat Cleburne's Confederate Emancipation proposal. The Irish Confederate met with commanders in the Western Theater to explain why ending slavery was the only hope the Confederates had for winning the war. This article looks at the specifics of Cleburne's famous proposition. At the time it was illegal for Blacks to enlist in the Confederate Army. This series examines Cleburne's proposal and its rejection by the Confederate government.

Pat Cleburne: The Irish Confederate’s “Emancipation Proclamation” - Long Island Wins

www.longislandwins.com

Stories like this should put a stop to all myths about black confederates, but, alas, those who propound the myth are not susceptible of evidence to the contrary.

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

Stories like this should put a stop to all myths about black confederates, but, alas, those who propound the myth are not susceptible of evidence to the contrary.

fake Generals?

 

[diane]

Think he was looking at it through Irish eyes. Cleburne really thought the South was fighting for independence and would give up slavery for freedom. Quite a bucket of ice cubes in his face! (No water with that...)

 

[PatYoung]

Stories like this should put a stop to all myths about black confederates, but, alas, those who propound the myth are not susceptible of evidence to the contrary.

Pat Cleburne was a competent attorney making an argument in support of enlistment of Black troops. If there were already known cases of Blacks serving in the Confederate army he would have cited that as precedent.

 

[O' Be Joyful]

Quite a bucket of ice cubes in his face! (No water with that...)

The bucket of "ice water" came long before that. Buster and the boyos bathed in it.

 

[5fish]

Pat Cleburne was a competent attorney making an argument in support of enlistment of Black troops. If there were already known cases of Blacks serving in the Confederate army he would have cited that as precedent.

We got General Forrest with eight slave body guards... I guess the at least shot at union troops once in a while maybe killed one or two...

 

[diane]

We got General Forrest with eight slave body guards... I guess the at least shot at union troops once in a while maybe killed one or two...

I think Pat is talking about people who wanted to fight for the Confederacy! Had to put something in the pot for them - but clearly anything was considered too much.

 

[Leftyhunter]

Interestingly enough the Portugese had a type of part time slavery in

This week marks the anniversary of General Pat Cleburne's Confederate Emancipation proposal. The Irish Confederate met with commanders in the Western Theater to explain why ending slavery was the only hope the Confederates had for winning the war. This article looks at the specifics of Cleburne's famous proposition. At the time it was illegal for Blacks to enlist in the Confederate Army. This series examines Cleburne's proposal and its rejection by the Confederate government.

Pat Cleburne: The Irish Confederate’s “Emancipation Proclamation” - Long Island Wins

www.longislandwins.com

Interestingly enough the Portugese had a type of part time slavery in their colonies until the early 1960s and they did get rid of it and did actually enlist thousands of native African's into Counterinsurgency units and by 1968 the Portugese Army was racially intergrated.
Leftyhunter

 

[Leftyhunter]

I think Pat is talking about people who wanted to fight for the Confederacy! Had to put something in the pot for them - but clearly anything was considered too much.

Ex slaves have certainly fought in the British Army during the ARW and War of 1812 and fought very well but at least they were granted freedom and after both wars left the US. Not sure why blacks would fight for the South when they for sure would be free if they joined the Union Army and get paid in real be monopoly money.
Leftyhunter