New member from the UK

[KepiBrit]

Hi, I've just joined the site. My main interest is the Battle of Hatcher's Run, Feb 5-7, 1865, so I'm always interested in sharing ideas on this topic. It's a very much misunderstood 3-day battle, that over the years with the help of many I've been trying to raise awareness. I've created a Battle of Hatcher's Run Facebook Page so feel free to check that out. Also I have created a website which includes a free to read 70,000 word ebook, the link is The Battle of Hatcher's Run | American Civil War history it also includes links to all my articles on the battle. So looking forward to having some friendly discussions.

 

[5fish]

Hello... This is an odd battle to take a fancy to, so you must have had a family member involved in the fight. The Battle of Cold Harbor interests me because I have ancestors who were involved in it and ended their time in Confederate military service there.

A takeaway from the battle (Second)Hatcher Run was the death of General John Pegram... He had recently married socialite Hetty Cary.

Some call this the first Battle of Hatcher Run...

Battle of Boydton Plank Road - Wikipedia

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[5fish]

The weather sounds like the weather during the 1863 "Mud March" in February 1863. Lee pulls his troops back, and Pegram splits his forces.

 

[jgoodguy]

Hello... This is an odd battle to take a fancy to

OTOH all the well know ones have a ton of material already written on them.

 

[jgoodguy]

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Amazing what AI can produce. I am in the progress of building a LLM for the Civil War. Slow going because the latest NVIDIA GPUS are very very expensive so I am still in the hardware acquire stage.

 

[diane]

Hi, I've just joined the site. My main interest is the Battle of Hatcher's Run, Feb 5-7, 1865, so I'm always interested in sharing ideas on this topic. It's a very much misunderstood 3-day battle, that over the years with the help of many I've been trying to raise awareness. I've created a Battle of Hatcher's Run Facebook Page so feel free to check that out. Also I have created a website which includes a free to read 70,000 word ebook, the link is The Battle of Hatcher's Run | American Civil War history it also includes links to all my articles on the battle. So looking forward to having some friendly discussions.

Hello! Good to see you. That is a battle I haven't heard much about except for the name - it will be fun finding out more!

 

[5fish]

Here is another interesting thing: General Gragg resigned from the Union army, effective the day he led his men on a raid that turned into the Battle of Hatcher's Run...

Major General David McM. Gregg’s Final Mission: Three Exhausting Days in the Saddle - Emerging Civil War

Emerging Civil War welcomes back guest author Nigel Lambert On January 25, 1865, highly regarded Maj. Gen. David McM. Gregg, commander of the Union’s 2nd Cavalry Division, unexpectedly tendered his resignation. What motivated this drastic decision? Army gossip spoke of the allure of his “pretty...

emergingcivilwar.com

As officials processed his resignation, at 3:00 a.m. on Sunday, February 5, 1865, Gregg led his cavalry (three brigades totaling 6,500 men) out of its camp south of Petersburg toward hostile territory

Gregg’s resignation took effect on February 9 with no fanfare or speeches. To the surprise of his troopers, this beloved and influential commander left the service. He was the longest-tenured Union cavalry division commander during the war

 

[5fish]

A creek that had to be crossed...

Hatcher's Run 150: Crossing Rowanty Creek - Emerging Civil War

The men of the Fifth Corps received a surprise assignment in early February 1865 that broke up the monotony of winter camp life during the Petersburg Campaign. “We had orders to march, leaving our tents ‘in statu quo,’ taking only overcoats, arms, and haversacks,” wrote a Pennsylvania private...

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[5fish]

A creek that had to be crossed...

Hatcher's Run 150: Crossing Rowanty Creek - Emerging Civil War

The men of the Fifth Corps received a surprise assignment in early February 1865 that broke up the monotony of winter camp life during the Petersburg Campaign. “We had orders to march, leaving our tents ‘in statu quo,’ taking only overcoats, arms, and haversacks,” wrote a Pennsylvania private...

emergingcivilwar.com

 

[Matt McKeon]

Welcome!

 

[5fish]

Battle of Hatcher's Run,

A.I. says this regiment was the most famous regiment at the Battle of Hatcher's Run, whose nickname was "Rochester race horses"...

140th New York Infantry Regiment - Wikipedia

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The 140th New York Infantry Regiment was a volunteer infantry regiment that was created on September 13, 1862, for the Union Army during the American Civil War. From January 1864 they wore a Zouave uniform.

Here is a baseball player in the 140th New York Infantry... @O' Be Joyful

Dennis Coughlin – Society for American Baseball Research

sabr.org

 

[5fish]

Native American regiment from the Michigan 1st K company was at the battle...

A Valorous but Fruitless Service: Native Americans of Co. K, 1st Michigan Sharpshooters – The Cleveland Civil War Roundtable

www.clevelandcivilwarroundtable.com

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At Saunders Field, Co. K resolutely engaged the enemy, employing their honed skills for sharpshooting and skirmishing. The men camouflaged their uniforms with brush and mud, a practice that the rest of the 1st Michigan soon adopted. During the fighting, the 1st Michigan Sharpshooters, along with the 2nd and 27th Michigan Infantry Regiments, supported the 14th New York Battery on a small rise of ground. The Michiganders tenaciously held their ground, but occasionally the Confederates fought their way to the battery. Any attempt to turn the guns met with certain death as the sharpshooters laid down a deadly hail of well-aimed bullets. One small band of Co. K sharpshooters was commanded by 2nd Lieutenant Graveraet. At dusk, when the ammunition ran out, Co. K rushed forward with the others at a shout from twice-wounded but still determined Lieutenant Colonel DeLand, “Give them steel boys!” (Sarah Bierle, 2019). The bloody fighting ended with the coming of darkness. Sergeant Charles Allen became the first of Co. K’s combat-related fatalities when he passed away from his wounds a week later in Fredericksburg.

Company K of the 1st Michigan Sharpshooters

It was 1861 when Michigan’s legislature dismissed the idea of George Copway — a popular Methodist minister and Chippewa — to recruit a regiment of...

www.battlefields.org

 

[KepiBrit]

Hello... This is an odd battle to take a fancy to, so you must have had a family member involved in the fight. The Battle of Cold Harbor interests me because I have ancestors who were involved in it and ended their time in Confederate military service there.

A takeaway from the battle (Second)Hatcher Run was the death of General John Pegram... He had recently married socialite Hetty Cary.

Some call this the first Battle of Hatcher Run...

Battle of Boydton Plank Road - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Hi, thanks for your post. I certainly is an odd battle to get passionate about! I don’t have any ancestor linked to the battle. I‘ve been interested in the civil war since the early 1960s and as a Brit I have been fortunate to visit most of the main battlefields. I stumbled across the battle in 2020 doing some amateur research for a friend. I was staggered to discover there was no book about the battle and that what was published was contradictory and wrong. Thus began my obsession. To find out more check out the Facebook Group I run search FB for “Battle of Hatcher’s Run”. I also created a website Google: hatchersrunbattle.com
This contains many links and also a free to read ebook on the battle, that is the most comprehensive account of the battle. It’s also accessible on smartphones. There is a link to an Emerging Civil War article that I wrote describing John Pegram’s last day and many of the myths around it.

 

[KepiBrit]

A.I. says this regiment was the most famous regiment at the Battle of Hatcher's Run, whose nickname was "Rochester race horses"...

140th New York Infantry Regiment - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The 140th New York Infantry Regiment was a volunteer infantry regiment that was created on September 13, 1862, for the Union Army during the American Civil War. From January 1864 they wore a Zouave uniform.

Here is a baseball player in the 140th New York Infantry... @O' Be Joyful

Dennis Coughlin – Society for American Baseball Research

sabr.org

140th New York were in Fred Winthrop’s brigade at Hatchers Run, they suffered 23 casualties according to the OR. Brian Bennett wrote a great book about the brigade.

 

[KepiBrit]

Here is another interesting thing: General Gragg resigned from the Union army, effective the day he led his men on a raid that turned into the Battle of Hatcher's Run...

Major General David McM. Gregg’s Final Mission: Three Exhausting Days in the Saddle - Emerging Civil War

Emerging Civil War welcomes back guest author Nigel Lambert On January 25, 1865, highly regarded Maj. Gen. David McM. Gregg, commander of the Union’s 2nd Cavalry Division, unexpectedly tendered his resignation. What motivated this drastic decision? Army gossip spoke of the allure of his “pretty...

emergingcivilwar.com

As officials processed his resignation, at 3:00 a.m. on Sunday, February 5, 1865, Gregg led his cavalry (three brigades totaling 6,500 men) out of its camp south of Petersburg toward hostile territory

Gregg’s resignation took effect on February 9 with no fanfare or speeches. To the surprise of his troopers, this beloved and influential commander left the service. He was the longest-tenured Union cavalry division commander during the war

Indeed. I wrote that article! It has always struck me as a strange situation. What must he have been thinking as he led his soldiers out into a probable battle. Also strange is that neither Grant nor Meade mentioned that he’d resigned when they planned the offensive that Gregg was to spearhead?

 

[KepiBrit]

Hello! Good to see you. That is a battle I haven't heard much about except for the name - it will be fun finding out more!

Hope you find the website informative, I have also set up a Facebook group “Battle of Hatchers Run” that has over 70 members including some senior US historians,

 

[5fish]

Here is the organization of the Army of Northern Virginia... February 1865...

Second Corps of the Army of Northern Virginia in February 1865

Organization of the Second Corps of the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia in February of 1865 in the American Civil War

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First Corps of the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia February 1865

Organization of the First Corps of the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia in February of 1865 in the American Civil War

civilwarintheeast.com

Here is your organization list...

Rebel Units and Commanders at the Battle of Hatcher’s Run: Confederate Second Corps

SOPO Editor's Note: This is the second in a series of five guest posts by Dr. Nigel Lambert, a semi-retired British biochemist with a lifelong interest in the

www.beyondthecrater.com

 

[5fish]

@KepiBrit ... I found something about Hatcher's Run not written by you... lol

Hatcher’s Run (February 7, 1865)

George Meade writes home about the Battle of Hatcher’s Run, yet another attempt to force Robert E. Lee to extend his lines around Petersburg to the breaking point. The operation began on February 5…

searching4meade.com

 

[KepiBrit]

@KepiBrit ... I found something about Hatcher's Run not written by you... lol

Hatcher’s Run (February 7, 1865)

George Meade writes home about the Battle of Hatcher’s Run, yet another attempt to force Robert E. Lee to extend his lines around Petersburg to the breaking point. The operation began on February 5…

searching4meade.com

This is in Meade’s memoirs I believe. I don’t think he was so keen on the whole idea. However he did a reasonable job. His relationship with Warren was somewhat strained by Feb 65.

 

[KepiBrit]

Here is the organization of the Army of Northern Virginia... February 1865...

Second Corps of the Army of Northern Virginia in February 1865

Organization of the Second Corps of the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia in February of 1865 in the American Civil War

civilwarintheeast.com

First Corps of the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia February 1865

Organization of the First Corps of the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia in February of 1865 in the American Civil War

civilwarintheeast.com

Here is your organization list...

Rebel Units and Commanders at the Battle of Hatcher’s Run: Confederate Second Corps

SOPO Editor's Note: This is the second in a series of five guest posts by Dr. Nigel Lambert, a semi-retired British biochemist with a lifelong interest in the

www.beyondthecrater.com

Indeed. CWE may have made some changes since I wrote my articles for beyondthecrater. I pointed out the mistakes in CWE at the time. The Union Order of Battle was also significantly flawed in CWE a couple of years back. I have tried to contact the administrator Steven Hawkes, but never got any response.