List of Black Confederate Definitions.

Tom

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Well, Tom, we do have the photo of one black Confederate general, Randall Lee Gibson...who would probably have shot you if you suggested he was black. No doubt of it, though!

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source: Louisiana Digital Library
But I doubt he was ever listed as anything other than white in census records.

The census taker didn't ask for someone to trot out their pedigree chart (even if they had one). They went by observation.
If someone was consistently listed as mulatto in every census record they appear in - more than likely they were not white and could not pass as white. That is not to say the census takers were always accurate or thorough in their work. I found one Confederate soldier listed in various records dating from 1850 to 1900 as -believe it or no- white, black, mulatto and octoroon.
 

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But I doubt he was ever listed as anything other than white in census records.

The census taker didn't ask for someone to trot out their pedigree chart (even if they had one). They went by observation.
If someone was consistently listed as mulatto in every census record they appear in - more than likely they were not white and could not pass as white. That is not to say the census takers were always accurate or thorough in their work. I found one Confederate soldier listed in various records dating from 1850 to 1900 as -believe it or no- white, black, mulatto and octoroon.
In Gibson's case, it was being pointed out that as a person of sufficient black descent to be a slave, he should not be a general. He did some research to his great grandfather owning a plantation - that's it, he was white, blacks can't own that. However...ONE more generation and he would have found his great great grandfather was a free black who did indeed own the plantation.

Race designation is interesting, especially to the Native population. As you say - depended on what you looked like. If you were very dark, Negro would be on your birth certificate. If you were very light, white would be put down. I have a Confederate ancestor from the Catawba of South Carolina - he enlisted as 'colored', got shot at Gettysburg and sent home...and was re-enlisted 'white'! Guess he was indoors a lot recuperating... I believe you when you say people observing who you are by your looks may not get it right - at all.
 

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Why would a "black Confederate" have to be a soldier? There were Confederate civilians, correct?
 

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So every black or mixed-race person in the South was property?
 

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Why would a "black Confederate" have to be a soldier? There were Confederate civilians, correct?
Your are right there was Confederate property one type was called Slaves...
 

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So every black or mixed-race person in the South was property?
statistically if you draw a random black person in the antebellum south they'll be a slave - what's the chance to draw a free person?
 

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Your are right there was Confederate property one type was called Slaves...
The basis for slaves being contraband was they were property in use by the Confederacy. There is a bright line from my hero Gen Butler declaring them contraband to the Emancipation Proclamation to the 13th amendment.
 

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Former PotUS Donald J. Trump

might define

a black Confederate just like every other Confederate

as

a

loser
 

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The basis for slaves being contraband was they were property in use by the Confederacy. There is a bright line from my hero Gen Butler declaring them contraband to the Emancipation Proclamation to the 13th amendment.
yours too? i'm counting myself as a butlerite
 

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yours too? i'm counting myself as a butlerite
The irony of the CSA declaring slaves to be property, is they made them free. Let's see if we get a coherent definition of a Black Confeterate instead of complaining about someone's definition.
 
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