Lincoln's Boots...

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Here is found these stories about Lincoln Boots...


“They are very different. They are much lighter, but very well made,” he said. “Men wore them for everything from going to work to dancing or going to funerals. When a man had his boots made, they were an investment intended to last all his life.

Carnacchi flew East and got to evaluate the Lincoln boots thoroughly. It was the first time a professional bootmaker had done so. He pulled on white gloves and measured them thoroughly, inside and out every possible way, determining they were about size 12½, not the size 14 catalogers had thought. He used lights and mirrors to check out the interior. He made ink impressions of the bottoms of the boots. “I felt the impression every bone in Lincoln’s feet had made, where and how he had worn them. I felt a real connection to him.”

“Four days after his 50th birthday, Lincoln was in Springfield and just down the street from the finest bootmaker in America, named Conrad Loch. He went in to order boots and put $10 down. A good pair of boots then cost $12.50. The ones Lincoln ordered on Feb. 16, 1859, were top of the line and cost $19.50,” Carnacchi said.

After Lincoln was elected, bootmaker Peter Kahler persuaded the president to let him make another pair of boots. He took the many painstaking measurements and made an ink impression of Lincoln’s foot. Lincoln was buried in Kahler’s boots. Until Carnacchi could explain exactly what the numbers meant, no one in the Park Service understood Kahler’s measurements.


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Peter Kahle, a humble German immigrant, a shoemaker from Scranton, Pennsylvania, thought he could make a pair of comfortable shoes for his President. He was a modest man and worked from a store basement but advertised it as the "largest boot and shoe establishment in the County." Using the diagrams as a template, he crafted a pair of shoes then sent them to Lincoln by way of a present from a humble admirer. The boots fitted perfectly, and Lincoln was delighted and sent a personal thank you letter to Kahler. The shoemaker was no fool, and the Presidential letter of recommendation was published, making Peter Kahler a celebrity shoemaker. Henceforth he promoted himself as 'Doctor Kahler, official bootmaker to the President.'"

During the Civil War (1861-1865), it was challenging for the President to find private time for a boot fitting and almost impossible for a bootmaker to have an audience with the Commander in Chief. Lincoln was determined, however, to have comfortable boots and sent for Dr. Kahler to attend him at the White House. Several conditions included that he must never talk of their meeting, not even to his family. The President's instructions to Dr. Kohler were to follow the Native Indian method of moccasin measurement, i.e., stand barefoot on a piece of rawhide and with his hunting knife cut out the sole, following the contour of the foot. The President pulled off his boots, stood upon the sheet of thick brown paper, and Dr. Kahler outlined the feet. After the diagram was concluded, the President signed and dated it to show his approval. President Lincoln's right foot was half an inch longer than his left foot.


 

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Lincoln was a Handball player along with some other games...


He was known to roll “Ten Pins” (bowling) [1], play Billiards (not Pool) [2], and Chess [3] but admitted that he never excelled at any of them. Mr. Lincoln engaged in these games for exercise and amusement, both physically and mentally. He routinely regaled those present with jokes, western anecdotes, and stories during play, which made him popular with opponents and teammates alike.

Likewise, you may have heard that he was a handball player, as have I, but details have always been hard to find. The game of handball was much better suited to Lincoln. At 6 feet 4 inches tall, his long legs and gangly arms served the Rail Splitter well. Muscles honed while wielding an ax as a youth were kept tight and toned as an adult. Lincoln milked his own cows and chopped his own wood even though he was a successful, affluent lawyer with little time to spare.
 

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I have never heard of Lincoln's boots - thanks!

I have heard of his slippers - carpet slippers made in the same fashion, by drawing around the foot. These slippers had two goats on the tops (his pet goats who died in a fire at the White House) and on the sides was his dog Fido. These slippers are pictured in a famous painting of him writing the Emancipation Proclamation which is at the Library of Congress.
 

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This event falls under those tales about Lincoln and this one is about Lincoln's bread... I found the web page that summarizes the story about Lincoln growing bread... There are Photos of the girl... and the statue of the event and another letter of her asking for a job...


All the ladies like whiskers and they would tease their husband's to vote for you and then you would be President.
 

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@diane ... Lincoln sports career or not?

Was Lincoln a wrestler or a grappler?


It was just a good, old-fashioned scuffle with each man trying to throw the other to his back and make him quit. Foot stomping was a frequent tactic as was hair pulling and thumbing of the face. It was a wild and ruckus engagement with little resemblance to wrestling as we now know it.

In that summer of 1831, Lincoln wound up in a scuffling contest with Jack Armstrong, an older man who was considered the toughest fellow in the area.

They tangled on a small slice of grass between two small buildings, and by all accounts Abe got the better of it. I have stood on that very spot many times through the years and have conducted two seminars there about the event. I even appeared on a national radio show several years ago to talk about it.
 

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Here some folklore...


“He was a proud competitor but a humble sportsman,” David Fleming wrote of the 6-foot-4, 180-pound hard man. “And when his wrestling skills diminished, Lincoln’s leadership qualities emerged.”
 

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@diane ... Lincoln sports career or not?

Was Lincoln a wrestler or a grappler?


It was just a good, old-fashioned scuffle with each man trying to throw the other to his back and make him quit. Foot stomping was a frequent tactic as was hair pulling and thumbing of the face. It was a wild and ruckus engagement with little resemblance to wrestling as we now know it.

In that summer of 1831, Lincoln wound up in a scuffling contest with Jack Armstrong, an older man who was considered the toughest fellow in the area.

They tangled on a small slice of grass between two small buildings, and by all accounts Abe got the better of it. I have stood on that very spot many times through the years and have conducted two seminars there about the event. I even appeared on a national radio show several years ago to talk about it.
There's very few real wrestlers these days outside of Olympics and that, but if it's good enough for Captain America, it's good enough for me! I think Lincoln's reach and long legs gave him an edge but in those days it really was more about letting people know if they could mess with you or not. A very good wrestler of the same time and area was N B Forrest. He was heavier through the shoulders than Lincoln but they'd have been fairly well matched. The general was athletic and preferred sports to education, though, which later came back to nip him. As his former teacher remarked, "Bedford always had sense. He just didn't apply himself. He would rather engage in physical activities." Lincoln was the opposite. Both men, because of their unusual size, would be constantly challenged just because of that! Lincoln's life took a different path than Forrest's - Forrest was a gambler who was very much shaped by the Mississippi fighting culture - he was well known as a formidable duelist and master swordsman before the war. That angle Lincoln didn't become involved in!

I think a lot of Lincoln's early life is strongly tied up in American mythology, like Washington's! (He was another big man often challenged.)
 

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Another Lincoln story a future Canadian poet meets Lincoln on the streets of Philadelphia 1864... E. W. Thomson

It was a time of great stir in the western world, and a sensitive lad absorbed many impressions. Canada was afire with the agitation for political change which led to Confederation.

Beyond the frontier the anti-slavery movement was bringing about the Civil War, in which many thousands of Canadians participated.

At the age of fourteen, young Thomson was sent on a visit to an uncle in Philadelphia and given a junior position in a wholesale establishment. One day as he stood in front of a pastry store munching a cheese cake, a tall man placed his
hand on the boy's shoulder and said:

"Good, sonny?"

The man was Abraham Lincoln, then bowed by war's burdens. He remained ever afterward the boy's hero, as several of his poems attest. In October, 1864, young Thomson, who was robust and confident for his age, enlisted in the Third Pennsylvania Cavalry and saw service for almost a year before his distracted parents secured his release on the grounds that he was a British subject and under age. His corps was engaged twice at Hatcher's Run and was with General Grant at Petersburg. The exj)eriences of these exciting months per-manently impressed the youth's mind and are recorded in a number of poems and stories. On returning to his father's home, then at Chippawa, Ontario, in 1865, "Willie" had not long to wait for another war venture. On the occasion of the Fenian Raid in June, 1866, he enhsted with the Queen's Own Rifles and took part

in the fight at Ridgeway
 
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Got this at the George Tyler Moore Center for the Study of the Civil War. Springfield is not far from Nauvoo which sets up a story about Mormon Joseph Smith.
 

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Most noted is Actor Richard Dreyfuss likes hanging out there. Not sure if he knew actress Mary Tyler Moore or not. Mary Tyler Moore wrote a book about herself but like John Esten Cooke's book on Hunter John Myers, it is also fiction.
 

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Nauvoo and the Catholic Church. My great grandfather built that church. His name was Redmond John Smithwick. From the family records of Mormon Bishop Jacob Myers and his friend General Phillip St George Cooke who's daughter married CSA General JEB Stuart who arrested John Brown at Harper's Ferry West Virginia now called Trump's Ferry West Virginia.
 

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You do not want to talk about the Warmonger James Ross....

 

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Lots of issues going on in Louisiana at the time of Lewis and Clark. My interest is only with the Myers family that knew both Thomas Jefferson and were boat builders in Pittsburgh. Some were Jewish and some were Catholic. Some did both at the same time. Like Ross, Myers is a very common name. My family seem to be more connected to Chief John Ross and Big Jake Troxal. Somehow Betty Ross is also in there. For sure we hung out with artist Gilbert Stuart and were not too happy with General Benjamin Franklin Butler also known as Spoons.
 

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