Lincoln and railroads

[5fish]

https://racewar.news/2018-04-20-why...fourth-of-lynchings-were-of-white-people.html

I have notice you find these right wing racist... Why?

Here is a great little article on the topic of lynching...

Many whites were lynched for fighting racism

Racism is not dead in America, but the fact remains that many whites have died trying to defeat it, an Alabama Sate professor says.

www.montgomeryadvertiser.com

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The vast majority (79 percent) of lynchings occurred in the South. Mississippi had the highest number of lynchings from 1882-1968 with 581, Georgia was second with 531, and Texas was third with 493. For blacks, most of the lynchings occurred in the South. Of the lynchings that did not take place in the South, most occurred in the West, and these were often lynchings of whites, not blacks. Note that for whites, it was equally likely that they would be lynched in Colorado (65) as Kentucky (63), Mississippi (42) as California (41), or Oregon (20) as West Virginia (20). Ninety percent of whites were lynched in nine states mostly in a swath from Montana, to Nebraska, Oklahoma, Arkansas and Texas. Ninety percent of blacks were lynched in the four Southern states of Mississippi, Georgia, Texas and Louisiana. Whites and blacks were lynched in “relatively equal” numbers in New York, New Jersey, Minnesota, Illinois and Missouri.

The worst year for whites was 1884 when 160 whites were lynched. For blacks, the highest number of lynchings occurred in 1892 when 161 were lynched. Three-fourths of all white lynchings occurred in the 14-year span from1882-1895. It took 28 years (1882-1909) for three-fourths of all black lynchings. There seems to have been a relative decline in lynchings generally beginning in 1901.

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While some whites were lynched for murder or stealing cattle, there is another important reason many were lynched. Many whites were lynched for helping blacks or being anti-lynching. According to David Barton’s extensively well-documented book, "Setting the Record Straight: American History in Black & White," the original targets of the Ku Klux Klan were Republicans, both black and white. The Klan terrorized both black and white Americans not to vote for Republican tickets. “Of all forms of violent intimidation, lynchings were by far the most effective.” Republicans often led the efforts to pass federal anti-lynching laws and their platforms consistently called for a ban on lynching. “Democrats successfully blocked those bills and their platforms never did condemn lynchings.”

So there it is, the inconvenient truth. The truth that more than 1,000 whites were lynched and many of them were lynched because they were Republican, because they supported their fellow black citizens and because they opposed the lawless act of lynching. Equal rights, political autonomy, personal freedom … these are fundamental principles of our democracy. But they have not always been so. More than 360,000 whites fought and died in the (un)Civil War to help defeat slavery. And many whites were lynched because they believed that these principles also belong to black Americans. Racism is not dead in America, but the fact remains that many whites have died trying to defeat it.

 

[5fish]

Here another article about lynching.... a good read....

How white Americans used lynchings to terrorize and control black people

The Guardian is in Montgomery, Alabama, to cover the opening of America’s first memorial to lynching victims. The legacy of such brutal, racist murders is still largely ignored

www.theguardian.com

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Among the most unsettling realities of lynching is the degree to which white Americans embraced it, not as an uncomfortable necessity or a way of maintaining order, but as a joyous moment of wholesome celebration. “Whole families came together, mothers and fathers, bringing even their youngest children. It was the show of the countryside – a very popular show,” read a 1930 editorial in the Raleigh News and Observer. “Men joked loudly at the sight of the bleeding body … girls giggled as the flies fed on the blood that dripped from the Negro’s nose.”

Adding to the macabre nature of the scene, lynching victims were typically dismembered into pieces of human trophy for mob members.

In his autobiography, WEB Du Bois writes of the 1899 lynching of Sam Hose in Georgia. He reports that the knuckles of the victim were on display at a local store on Mitchell Street in Atlanta and that a piece of the man’s heart and liver was presented to the state’s governor.

In the 1931 Maryville, Missouri, lynching of Raymond Gunn, the crowd estimated at 2,000 to 4,000 was at least a quarter women, and included hundreds of children. One woman “held her little girl up so she could get a better view of the naked Negro blazing on the roof”, wrote Arthur Raper in The Tragedy of Lynching.

After the fire was out, hundreds poked about in his ashes for souvenirs. “The charred remains of the victim were divided piece by piece,” wrote Raper.

 

[5fish]

The start:

Lynching, a form of violence in which a mob, under the pretext of administering justice without trial, executes a presumed offender, often after inflicting torture and corporal mutilation. The term lynch law refers to a self-constituted court that imposes sentence on a person without due process of law. Both terms are derived from the name of Charles Lynch (1736–96), a Virginia planter and justice of the peace who, during the American Revolution, headed an irregular court formed to punish loyalists.

Here is the man:

Charles Lynch (judge) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[O' Be Joyful]

I have notice you find these right wing racist... Why?

Facebook news feed?

 

[nicholls]

I have notice you find these right wing racist... Why?

I think it is important to understand the information that is put forth by our enemies; it is essential to understand their way of thinking. Just like many southern historians lied about the real cause of the civil war and they told this story to many people in the early 20th century to put themselves in a better light and still do to this day. A good analogy is when a nation sends spies to understand an enemy country's military capabilities for example a tank in order to better understand how to defend against it.

I think in the future, when many people who lived during Jim Crow began to die off you will probably see some conservatives and their black lackeys like the late libertarian economist Walter E Williams to rewrite the history of Jim Crow like they did the Civil War and present a slanted point of view that misrepresents that period. I think it is imperative for people like us to be mindful of these attempts.

A perfect example is the Black Confederate myth. It wasn't an issue back then because people knew it wasn't true but since all the people who lived at that time have long since passed and are not here to tell their story, Lost Cause supporters were able to create the myth. It is the same with tariffs being the cause of the Civil War; it wasn't mentioned back at that time. Many state secessionist declarations declared they were seceding because of slavery but modern day southerners are ashamed of this fact. They don't like the idea of how white supremacist the southern mindset was.

 

[O' Be Joyful]

I think it is important to understand the information that is put forth by our enemies; it is essential to understand their way of thinking. Just like many southern historians lied about the real cause of the civil war and they told this story to many people in the early 20th century to put themselves in a better light and still do to this day. A good analogy is when a nation sends spies to understand an enemy country's military capabilities for example a tank in order to better understand how to defend against it.

I think in the future, when many people who lived during Jim Crow began to die off you will probably see some conservatives and their black lackeys like the late libertarian economist Walter E Williams to rewrite the history of Jim Crow like they did the Civil War and present a slanted point of view that misrepresents that period. I think it is imperative for people like us to be mindful of these attempts.

A perfect example is the Black Confederate myth. It wasn't an issue back then because people knew it wasn't true but since all the people who lived at that time have long since passed and are not here to tell their story, Lost Cause supporters were able to create the myth. It is the same with tariffs being the cause of the Civil War; it wasn't mentioned back at that time. Many state secessionist declarations declared they were seceding because of slavery but modern day southerners are ashamed of this fact. They don't like the idea of how white supremacist the southern mindset was.

You and @5fish have more than a few things in common I believe, whether you each recognize it at this moment or not.

Keep on stirring the pot @nicholls, it smells at first but then the air clears and in the end We as a whole learn more.

Obi

 

[5fish]

I think in the future, when many people who lived during Jim Crow began to die off you will probably see some conservatives and their black lackeys like the late libertarian economist Walter E Williams to rewrite the history of Jim Crow like they did the Civil War and present a slanted point of view that misrepresents that period. I think it is imperative for people like us to be mindful of these attempts.

You make a thoughtful insight into the future...

 

[Joshism]

it is libertarian Dan Sullivan making these statements

Stopped reading there.

Libertarianism is an inherently broken, selfish political ideology whose adherents attempt to twist the past in an effort to show how they've always been correct and thus justify their bad modern politics. Arguments made by Libertarians don't deserve consideration.