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Sorry, but Hitler and Ford were anti semites. Hitler stated plainly that he was an anti semite and I'm pretty sure that didn't include Arabs. One can be antisemitic without hating all descendants of the original twelve tribes. For several millenia antisemitic has meant hatred of Jews. Two of my best friends are Christian Arabs and they make no bones about their antisemitism. Even Semitic people who hate Jews are antisemitic. Get over it.
My understanding of the word anti Semite is hatred if people's of the Middle East. Perhaps a better word word be anti Jewish.
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I have read biographies upon Ford, perhaps you should delve more deeply into the subject. I have nothing further to add as this is futile.
Which doesn't negate what I stated. I just said that Ford's hatred of Jews didn't consist of hatred for the Arab's.
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My understanding of the word anti Semite is hatred if people's of the Middle East. Perhaps a better word word be anti Jewish.
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You're wrong. Like I said forever antisemitic has meant hatred of Jews. No need to overcomplicate the thing.

 

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No it doesn't. Ford hated Jews but not Palestinian Arabs
the Arabs are Semites but antisemitic means anti-Jewish, even the Arabs see it that way and are proud of it.
Same shit with Aryans, the Indian Indians mostly are Aryans as well as Pakistani & the Bangladeshi.
 

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the Arabs are Semites but antisemitic means anti-Jewish, even the Arabs see it that way and are proud of it.
Same shit with Aryans, the Indian Indians mostly are Aryans as well as Pakistani & the Bangladeshi.
Indians were classified by Apartheid era South Africa as Asians and we're segregated. In fact Mahatma Ghandi began his non violent protest movement in South Africa not British India.
In the US Indians are listed in the US Census as Asians.
Nazi Germany did not classify Indian's as Aryans but did allow for a segregated Indian Regiment in the German military. I forget if they were part of the SS or Wermacht.
Not sure who thinks Indian's are actually Aryans.
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Aryan is a racial term since Hitler used it. In California there is a large prison gang called " The Aryan Nation". Highly doubtful there are any members from the Indian Subcontinent.
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It is a religious term, which the Nazis used idiotically / senseless
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I like point out tractors.... so tractors were on line by the 1859... to the naysayers a little imagination and the civil war could have been a little different... steam punk...

The first powered farm implements in the early 19th century were portable engines – steam engines on wheels that could be used to drive mechanical farm machinery by way of a flexible belt. Richard Trevithick designed the first 'semi-portable' stationary steam engine for agricultural use, known as a "barn engine" in 1812, and it was used to drive a corn threshing machine.[5] The truly portable engine was invented in 1893 by William Tuxford of Boston, Lincolnshire who started manufacture of an engine built around a locomotive-style boiler with horizontal smoke tubes. A large flywheel was mounted on the crankshaft, and a stout leather belt was used to transfer the drive to the equipment being driven. In the 1850s, John Fowler used a Clayton & Shuttleworth portable engine to drive apparatus in the first public demonstrations of the application of cable haulage to cultivation.
In parallel with the early portable engine development, many engineers attempted to make them self-propelled – the fore-runners of the traction engine.
In most cases this was achieved by fitting a sprocket on the end of the crankshaft, and running a chain from this to a larger sprocket on the rear axle. These experiments met with mixed success.[6] The first proper traction engine, in the form recognisable today, was developed in 1859 when British engineer Thomas Aveling modified a Clayton & Shuttleworth portable engine, which had to be hauled from job to job by horses, into a self-propelled one. The alteration was made by fitting a long driving chain between the crankshaft and the rear axle.[7] 1882 Harrison Machine Works steam-powered traction engine

The first half of the 1860s was a period of great experimentation but by the end of the decade the standard form of the traction engine had evolved and would change little over the next sixty years. It was widely adopted for agricultural use. The first tractors were steam-powered plowing engines. They were used in pairs, placed on either side of a field to haul a plow back and forth between them using a wire cable. In Britain Mann's and Garrett developed steam tractors for direct ploughing, but the heavy, wet soil of England meant that these designs were less economical than a team of horses. In the United States, where soil conditions permitted, steam tractors were used to direct-haul plows. Steam-powered agricultural engines remained in use well into the 20th century until reliable internal combustion engines had been developed.


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They became popular in industrialised countries from around 1850, when the first self-propelled portable steam engines for agricultural use were developed. Production continued well into the early part of the 20th century, when competition from internal combustion engine-powered tractors saw them fall out of favour, although some continued in commercial use in the United Kingdom well into the 1950s and later. All types of traction engines have now been superseded in commercial use. However, several thousand examples have been preserved worldwide, many in working order. Steam fairs are held throughout the year in the United Kingdom, and in other countries, where visitors can experience working traction engines at close hand

Snip... If it cam plow it can carry troops into battle...

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Limits of technical knowledge and manufacturing technology meant that practicable road vehicles, powered by steam, did not start to appear until the early years of the 19th century.
The traction engine, in the form recognisable today, was developed from an experiment in 1859 when Thomas Aveling modified a Clayton & Shuttleworth portable engine, which had to be hauled from job to job by horses, into a self-propelled one. This alteration was made by fitting a long driving chain between the crankshaft and the rear axle. Thomas Aveling is regarded as "the father of the traction engine". [1] Other influences were existing vehicles which were the first to be referred to as traction engines such as the Boydell engines manufactured by various companies and those developed for road haulage by Bray. The first half of the 1860s was a period of great experimentation but by the end of the decade the standard form of the traction engine had evolved and would change little over the next sixty years.
Until the quality of roads improved there was little demand for faster vehicles and engines were geared accordingly to cope with their use on rough roads and farm tracks


SEE could you just picture tinclads rolling across the fields heading toward the Heights outside Fredrickburg, Franklin, Gettysburg carrying troops into battle,,,
 

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Do you know the famous vampire movie Nosferatu?

Some would say it had anti-Semitic elements. You know, the film was sued by Lew Wallace's wife over copyright issues and won. All copies of the film were to be destroyed, but some survived to give the world great film art.


Nosferatu has always faced controversy, from the original silent film to the contemporary horror film. Issues with Nosferatu: A Symphony of Horror (1922) started before production even began; the founders of Prana film, Nosferatu’s studio, tasked screenwriter Henrik Galeen with writing the film based solely on Bram Stoker’s Dracula even though they had yet to gain the film rights to said story. However Galeen still made changes to the original story, including names and locations, and most importantly, the effects that Count Orlok the vampire had on the German town.

Nosferatu was partially intended to increase anti-Semitic feelings in post-WWI Germany, using Orlok as a means to draw out fear of “the Other.” Orlok is intended to look like a caricature of the Jewish people with a hooked nose, claw-like hands, and large, bald head. Orlok was also associated with creatures that Jews were compared to such as rats and mice. These parallels come to a head when Orlok brings a ship of plague-ridden rats that infect the town, associating Orlok further with the “disease bringing Jew” trope. This parallel has not gone unnoticed by scholars, with English professor Tony Magistrale saying, “[the] invasion of the German homeland by an outside force … poses disquieting parallels to the anti-Semitic atmosphere festering in Northern Europe in 1922.
 

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rgat question is a joke, right

 

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China made the first armor wagon...

Developed around the 5th Century A.D. In China - The Dongwo Che has also been called one of the “first” Armored Vehicles comparable to The Tank of the early 20th Century. The Dongwo Chu was constructed as a standard wooden cart (with 4 wheels as opposed to 2). Heavy iron plating (1-inch thick) was placed around and inside the cart and bed. Wheels were made of wood and iron as well (and fitted with a ring of raised metal studs to assist in traction). Finally, a tent shaped, triangular top was installed (that slopped radically). This was to deflect rockets, shrapnel and bullets. Horses (covered in Armor), would drive the cart into battle. If the horse was killed, the soldiers inside could “button up” and fight from a “small Fort” if necessary. Often 5 to 10 of these Dongwu Che would be placed in lines or circles to create an “instant fighting position”.

 
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