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bullshit You volunteers tried to take Canada more than ones and were beaten
Occupied is occupied. The US did try to seize Canada twice but the British Army still remained and occasional flare ups did occur still not enough to necessitate the creation of a professional US Army until WW1.
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Occupied is occupied. The US did try to seize Canada twice but the British Army still remained and occasional flare ups did occur still not enough to necessitate the creation of a professional US Army until WW1.
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you had a professional army in WW I?
 

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the rock of the Marne, my ass the simply didn't know how to run

after that they knew
 

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I found Pedrail wheels...

Snip... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedrail_wheel

The pedrail wheel is a type of wheel developed in the early 20th century for all-terrain locomotion. They consist of a series of "feet" (pedes in Latin) connected to pivots on a wheel. As the wheel turns, the feet come into contact with the ground, and rotate so they remain flat to the ground as the wheel moves over them. Pedrail wheels may be simple systems with the feet connected to a rigid wheel, but more complex systems including various built-in suspension systems were designed to improve performance on uneven ground. The system was used in agricultural machinery.
Pedrail wheels should not be confused with dreadnaught wheels which have articulated rails attached at the rim for the wheel to roll over (also known as endless railway wheels). Both designs were replaced by continuous track systems.

The pedrail wheel was invented in 1903 by the Londoner Bramah Joseph Diplock.[3][4] It consists in the adjunction of feet (Latin radical "ped") to the rail of a wheel, in order to improve traction and facilitate movement in uneven or muddy terrain.
[1] Sophisticated pedrail wheels were designed, with individual suspension for each foot, which would facilitate the contact with uneven terrain.
Bramah Joseph Diplock also invented the pedrail locomotive which was featured in the 7 February 1904 New York Times
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So who invented the modern car Benz or Ford .... @rittmeister and @Wehrkraftzersetzer , @jgoodguy , @O' Be Joyful , @Kirk's Raider's

Snip... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benz_Patent-Motorwagen

The Benz Patent-Motorwagen ("patent motorcar"), built in 1885, is widely regarded as the world's first production automobile,[1] that is, a vehicle designed to be propelled by an internal combustion engine. The original cost of the vehicle in 1885 was 600 imperial German marks,[2] approximately 150 US dollars (equivalent to $4,268 in 2019). The vehicle was awarded the German patent number 37435, for which Karl Benz applied on 29 January 1886. Following official procedures, the date of the application became the patent date for the invention once the patent was granted, which occurred in November of that year.

The Benz Patent-Motorwagen was a three-wheeled automobile with a rear-mounted engine. The vehicle contained many new inventions. It was constructed of steel tubing with woodwork panels. The steel-spoked wheels and solid rubber tires were Benz's own design. Steering was by way of a toothed rack that pivoted the unsprung front wheel. Fully elliptic springs were used at the back along with a beam axle and chain drive on both sides. A simple belt system served as a single-speed transmission, varying torque between an open disc and drive disc.

Snip... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Quadricycle

The Ford Quadricycle was the first vehicle developed by Henry Ford. Ford's first car was a simple frame with a gas-powered engine and four bicycle wheels mounted on it.[3]
The earliest cars were hand built, one by one, and very expensive. The peculiar machines were seen as toys for the rich.[3] In the 1890s, the "horseless carriage" was a relatively new idea, with no one having a fixed, universal idea of what a car should look like or how it should work. Most of the first car builders were inventors, rather than businessmen, working with their imaginations and the parts they had on hand.[3] Thus, the invention of the Quadricycle marks an important innovation as a proto-automobile that would lay the foundation for the future, with more practical designs to follow.
On June 4, 1896 in a tiny workshop behind his home on 58 Bagley Avenue, Detroit,[2][4] where the Michigan Building now stands, Ford put the finishing touches on his pure ethanol-powered motor. After more than two years of experimentation, Ford, at the age of 32, had completed his first experimental automobile. He dubbed his creation the "Quadricycle," so named because it ran on four bicycle tires, and because of the means through which the engine drove the back wheels.[5] The success of the little vehicle led to the founding of the Henry Ford Company and then later the Ford Motor Company in 1903
.[6

I ask who made the first modern car...???

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Benz car,,,

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Ford car,,,
 

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1955 Chevy Corvette with the first small block chevy engine.
 

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So who invented the modern car Benz or Ford .... @rittmeister and @Wehrkraftzersetzer , @jgoodguy , @O' Be Joyful , @Kirk's Raider's

Snip... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benz_Patent-Motorwagen

The Benz Patent-Motorwagen ("patent motorcar"), built in 1885, is widely regarded as the world's first production automobile,[1] that is, a vehicle designed to be propelled by an internal combustion engine. The original cost of the vehicle in 1885 was 600 imperial German marks,[2] approximately 150 US dollars (equivalent to $4,268 in 2019). The vehicle was awarded the German patent number 37435, for which Karl Benz applied on 29 January 1886. Following official procedures, the date of the application became the patent date for the invention once the patent was granted, which occurred in November of that year.

The Benz Patent-Motorwagen was a three-wheeled automobile with a rear-mounted engine. The vehicle contained many new inventions. It was constructed of steel tubing with woodwork panels. The steel-spoked wheels and solid rubber tires were Benz's own design. Steering was by way of a toothed rack that pivoted the unsprung front wheel. Fully elliptic springs were used at the back along with a beam axle and chain drive on both sides. A simple belt system served as a single-speed transmission, varying torque between an open disc and drive disc.

Snip... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Quadricycle

The Ford Quadricycle was the first vehicle developed by Henry Ford. Ford's first car was a simple frame with a gas-powered engine and four bicycle wheels mounted on it.[3]
The earliest cars were hand built, one by one, and very expensive. The peculiar machines were seen as toys for the rich.[3] In the 1890s, the "horseless carriage" was a relatively new idea, with no one having a fixed, universal idea of what a car should look like or how it should work. Most of the first car builders were inventors, rather than businessmen, working with their imaginations and the parts they had on hand.[3] Thus, the invention of the Quadricycle marks an important innovation as a proto-automobile that would lay the foundation for the future, with more practical designs to follow.
On June 4, 1896 in a tiny workshop behind his home on 58 Bagley Avenue, Detroit,[2][4] where the Michigan Building now stands, Ford put the finishing touches on his pure ethanol-powered motor. After more than two years of experimentation, Ford, at the age of 32, had completed his first experimental automobile. He dubbed his creation the "Quadricycle," so named because it ran on four bicycle tires, and because of the means through which the engine drove the back wheels.[5] The success of the little vehicle led to the founding of the Henry Ford Company and then later the Ford Motor Company in 1903
.[6

I ask who made the first modern car...???

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Benz car,,,

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Ford car,,,
No one ever argued Ford designed or built the first car . Ford was the first automobile manufacturer to mass produce automobiles and for a few years was the top selling automobile brand in the world.
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No one ever argued Ford designed or built the first car . Ford was the first automobile manufacturer to mass produce automobiles and for a few years was the top selling automobile brand in the world.
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I could just be American ego talking... Benz had the first production model... Not Ford...
 

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I could just be American ego talking... Benz had the first production model... Not Ford...
No kidding. Ford never claimed to invent the automobile or even the assembly line as Eli Whitney did many decades prior to Ford being born. Ford just put two and two together.
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No kidding. Ford never claimed to invent the automobile or even the assembly line as Eli Whitney did many decades prior to Ford being born. Ford just put two and two together.
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what ford really invented was the factory worker as a customer for (rather cheap) cars. the rest of his acchievements like funding a foreign party he wholeheartedly agreed with should be carpet bombed though.
 

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Let all wait the French seem to beat everyone to the manufacture cars...

LINK: https://www.thoughtco.com/history-of-car-assembly-line-4072559

By the early 1900s, gasoline cars started to outsell all other types of motor vehicles. The market was growing for automobiles and the need for industrial production was pressing.

The first car manufacturers in the world were French companies Panhard & Levassor (1889) and Peugeot (1891). Daimler and Benz started out as innovators who experimented with car design to test their engines before becoming full car manufacturers. They made their early money by licensing their patents and selling their engines to car manufacturers.

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Levassor was the first designer to move the engine to the front of the car and use a rear-wheel drive layout. This design was known as the Systeme Panhard and quickly became the standard for all cars because it gave a better balance and improved steering. Panhard and Levassor are also credited with the invention of the modern transmission, which was installed in their 1895 Panhard.

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Early on, French manufacturers did not standardize car models as each car was different from the other. The first standardized car was the 1894 Benz Velo. One hundred and thirty-four identical Velos were manufactured in 1895.

Snip... Ford was not first... in America

America's first gas-powered commercial car manufacturers were
Charles and Frank Duryea. The brothers were bicycle makers who became interested in gasoline engines and automobiles. They built their first motor vehicle in 1893 in Springfield, Massachusetts and by 1896 the Duryea Motor Wagon Company had sold thirteen models of the Duryea, an expensive limousine that remained in production into the 1920s.

The first automobile to be mass produced in the United States was the 1901 Curved Dash Oldsmobile, built by the American car manufacturer Ransome Eli Olds (1864-1950). Olds invented the basic concept of the assembly line and started the Detroit area automobile industry. He first began making steam and gasoline engines with his father, Pliny Fisk Olds, in Lansing, Michigan in 1885.

Olds designed his first steam-powered car in 1887. In 1899, with his experience in making gasoline engines, Olds moved to Detroit to start the Olds Motor Works with the goal of producing low-priced cars. He produced 425 "Curved Dash Olds" in 1901, and was America's leading auto manufacturer from 1901 to 1904

Snip... FORD

American car manufacturer Henry Ford (1863-1947) was credited with inventing an improved assembly line.

Around 1913, he installed the first conveyor belt-based assembly line in his car factory at Ford's Highland Park, Michigan plant. The assembly line reduced production costs for cars by reducing assembly time.

Snip... Ford's big victory!

Another victory won by Henry Ford was the patent battle with George B. Selden. Selden, who held a patent on a "road engine." On that basis, Selden was paid royalties by all American car manufacturers. Ford overturned Selden's patent and opened the American car market for the building of inexpensive cars
 

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Let all wait the French seem to beat everyone to the manufacture cars...

LINK: https://www.thoughtco.com/history-of-car-assembly-line-4072559

By the early 1900s, gasoline cars started to outsell all other types of motor vehicles. The market was growing for automobiles and the need for industrial production was pressing.

The first car manufacturers in the world were French companies Panhard & Levassor (1889) and Peugeot (1891). Daimler and Benz started out as innovators who experimented with car design to test their engines before becoming full car manufacturers. They made their early money by licensing their patents and selling their engines to car manufacturers.

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Levassor was the first designer to move the engine to the front of the car and use a rear-wheel drive layout. This design was known as the Systeme Panhard and quickly became the standard for all cars because it gave a better balance and improved steering. Panhard and Levassor are also credited with the invention of the modern transmission, which was installed in their 1895 Panhard.

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Early on, French manufacturers did not standardize car models as each car was different from the other. The first standardized car was the 1894 Benz Velo. One hundred and thirty-four identical Velos were manufactured in 1895.

Snip... Ford was not first... in America

America's first gas-powered commercial car manufacturers were
Charles and Frank Duryea. The brothers were bicycle makers who became interested in gasoline engines and automobiles. They built their first motor vehicle in 1893 in Springfield, Massachusetts and by 1896 the Duryea Motor Wagon Company had sold thirteen models of the Duryea, an expensive limousine that remained in production into the 1920s.

The first automobile to be mass produced in the United States was the 1901 Curved Dash Oldsmobile, built by the American car manufacturer Ransome Eli Olds (1864-1950). Olds invented the basic concept of the assembly line and started the Detroit area automobile industry. He first began making steam and gasoline engines with his father, Pliny Fisk Olds, in Lansing, Michigan in 1885.

Olds designed his first steam-powered car in 1887. In 1899, with his experience in making gasoline engines, Olds moved to Detroit to start the Olds Motor Works with the goal of producing low-priced cars. He produced 425 "Curved Dash Olds" in 1901, and was America's leading auto manufacturer from 1901 to 1904

Snip... FORD

American car manufacturer Henry Ford (1863-1947) was credited with inventing an improved assembly line.

Around 1913, he installed the first conveyor belt-based assembly line in his car factory at Ford's Highland Park, Michigan plant. The assembly line reduced production costs for cars by reducing assembly time.

Snip... Ford's big victory!

Another victory won by Henry Ford was the patent battle with George B. Selden. Selden, who held a patent on a "road engine." On that basis, Selden was paid royalties by all American car manufacturers. Ford overturned Selden's patent and opened the American car market for the building of inexpensive cars
But Ford did it better . The Model-T was a tremendous sucess unequaled by any other contemporary automobile manufacturer.
No one has argued that Ford invented the automobile or the assembly line. Ford just did it better then anyone else in his time and created a template for other large scale manufacter.
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what ford really invented was the factory worker as a customer for (rather cheap) cars. the rest of his acchievements like funding a foreign party he wholeheartedly agreed with should be carpet bombed though.
Ford was correct in building an automobile that could be afforded by the lower middle class. I am very aware Ford was a vicious anti-Semite who published anti-Semetic books. Ford thought Hitler was the savior of Germany if not Western Europe.
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What Ford did was to perfect the moving assembly line - the worker stands still and the work comes to him. It's how he cut the price of his cars in half and made a "car for the masses." He didn't actually invent anything but he made things work better and cheaper. Fords were the top selling cars worldwide for a really long time because no one could match the bang for the buck.
 

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What Ford did was to perfect the moving assembly line - the worker stands still and the work comes to him. It's how he cut the price of his cars in half and made a "car for the masses." He didn't actually invent anything but he made things work better and cheaper. Fords were the top selling cars worldwide for a really long time because no one could match the bang for the buck.
he also paid his workers better so they could buy what they had built
 

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Some more interesting things about cars... https://www.thoughtco.com/duryea-brothers-automobile-history-1991577

Duryea Motor Wagon Company
On September 20, 1893, the Duryea brothers' first automobile was constructed and successfully tested on the public streets of Springfield, Massachusetts. Charles Duryea founded the Duryea Motor Wagon Company in 1896, the first company to manufacture and sell gasoline-powered vehicles. By 1896, the company had sold thirteen cars of the model Duryea, an expensive limousine, which remained in production into the 1920s.

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In March 1896, Charles and Frank Duryea offered for sale the first commercial automobile, the Duryea motor wagon. Two months later, New York City motorist Henry Wells hit a bicyclist with his new Duryea. The rider suffered a broken leg, Wells spent a night in jail and the nation's first traffic accident was recorded.

Snip.. U.S. Auto race...

The Chicago Times-Herald race was the first automobile race held in the United States. Sponsored by the Chicago Times-Herald, the race was held in Chicago in 1895 between six motorized vehicles (four cars, two motorcycles) and won by Frank Duryea's Motorized Wagon.

At 8:55 am on November 28, 1895, six motor cars left Chicago's Jackson Park for a 54-mile race to Evanston, Illinois and back through the snow. Car Number 5 driven by inventor Frank Duryea, won the race in just over 10 hours at an average speed of 7.3 mph.

The winner earned $2,000, the enthusiast from the crowd who gave the horseless vehicles the new name of "motorcycles" won $500, and the Chicago Times-Herald Newspaper that sponsored the race wrote
 

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^that's what ford changed. he built afFORDable cars not for everybody but for a lot more people
 
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