Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain

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A veritable icon of Civil War legend, Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain is best known for his heroic participation in the Battle of Gettysburg.  Chamberlain and his regiment, the 20th Maine Infantry, gained notoriety for their desperate bayonet charge down Little Round Top on the Second Day of the Battle, a feat that figures prominently in Michael Shaara’s novel The Killer Angels and its movie adaptation, Gettysburg.  This one deed, however, is only one facet of the man who later wrote “in great deeds something abides.”

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/...flJ0rWPdxQtqCqXLzpWwPl7UDAwboy-9UJgBt8Dv5J1R4

https://www.essentialcivilwarcurriculum.com/joshua-lawrence-chamberlain.html


https://www.pbslearningmedia.org/re...lawrence-chamberlain-ken-burns-the-civil-war/
 

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Jim Klag said:
A veritable icon of Civil War legend, Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain is best known for his heroic participation in the Battle of Gettysburg.  Chamberlain and his regiment, the 20th Maine Infantry, gained notoriety for their desperate bayonet charge down Little Round Top on the Second Day of the Battle, a feat that figures prominently in Michael Shaara’s novel The Killer Angels and its movie adaptation, Gettysburg.  This one deed, however, is only one facet of the man who later wrote “in great deeds something abides.”

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/...flJ0rWPdxQtqCqXLzpWwPl7UDAwboy-9UJgBt8Dv5J1R4

https://www.essentialcivilwarcurriculum.com/joshua-lawrence-chamberlain.html


https://www.pbslearningmedia.org/re...lawrence-chamberlain-ken-burns-the-civil-war/
if you ask me, he looks a lot like will mcavoy
 

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rittmeister said:
Jim Klag said:
A veritable icon of Civil War legend, Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain is best known for his heroic participation in the Battle of Gettysburg.  Chamberlain and his regiment, the 20th Maine Infantry, gained notoriety for their desperate bayonet charge down Little Round Top on the Second Day of the Battle, a feat that figures prominently in Michael Shaara’s novel The Killer Angels and its movie adaptation, Gettysburg.  This one deed, however, is only one facet of the man who later wrote “in great deeds something abides.”

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/...flJ0rWPdxQtqCqXLzpWwPl7UDAwboy-9UJgBt8Dv5J1R4

https://www.essentialcivilwarcurriculum.com/joshua-lawrence-chamberlain.html


https://www.pbslearningmedia.org/re...lawrence-chamberlain-ken-burns-the-civil-war/
if you ask me, he looks a lot like will mcavoy
Will played him in Gettysburg.

[img=557x369]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1c/bd/d2/1cbdd23fd5e83a05ebd7c9f80cea63b7.jpg[/img]
 

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Jim Klag said:
rittmeister said:
Jim Klag said:
A veritable icon of Civil War legend, Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain is best known for his heroic participation in the Battle of Gettysburg.  Chamberlain and his regiment, the 20th Maine Infantry, gained notoriety for their desperate bayonet charge down Little Round Top on the Second Day of the Battle, a feat that figures prominently in Michael Shaara’s novel The Killer Angels and its movie adaptation, Gettysburg.  This one deed, however, is only one facet of the man who later wrote “in great deeds something abides.”

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/...flJ0rWPdxQtqCqXLzpWwPl7UDAwboy-9UJgBt8Dv5J1R4

https://www.essentialcivilwarcurriculum.com/joshua-lawrence-chamberlain.html


https://www.pbslearningmedia.org/re...lawrence-chamberlain-ken-burns-the-civil-war/
if you ask me, he looks a lot like will mcavoy
Will played him in Gettysburg.

[img=557x369]https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1c/bd/d2/1cbdd23fd5e83a05ebd7c9f80cea63b7.jpg[/img]
nope, jeff played 'em both

 

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Wehrkraftzersetzer said:
Jeff McAvoy?
it's will mcavoy. jeff daniels played mcavoy in the newsroom and chamberlain in gettysburg
 

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We currently have The Looming Tower showing on tv here. Jeff Daniels plays John O'Neill the chief of the New York FBI's Counterterrorism Center known as "I-49". He is convinced that the United States has been targeted for attack by Al Qaeda but is faced with hostility from other agencies of the federal government, particularly from the CIA.(Wiki)
 

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any good? i think i have that one
 

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It depends on how i wake if i am a fan or a big fan of Chamberlain.he was very big on promoting himself after the war.
 

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Jim Klag said:
A veritable icon of Civil War legend, Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain is best known for his heroic participation in the Battle of Gettysburg.  Chamberlain and his regiment, the 20th Maine Infantry, gained notoriety for their desperate bayonet charge down Little Round Top on the Second Day of the Battle, a feat that figures prominently in Michael Shaara’s novel The Killer Angels and its movie adaptation, Gettysburg.  This one deed, however, is only one facet of the man who later wrote “in great deeds something abides.”

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/...flJ0rWPdxQtqCqXLzpWwPl7UDAwboy-9UJgBt8Dv5J1R4

https://www.essentialcivilwarcurriculum.com/joshua-lawrence-chamberlain.html


https://www.pbslearningmedia.org/re...lawrence-chamberlain-ken-burns-the-civil-war/
Chamberlain was a mere footnote until rescued from obscurity by John Pullen, Michael Shaara, Ken Burns, and Ron Maxwell.
 

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Could someone explaim his grudge against Wm.Oates and the attempwd placement of a marker for the 15th ala.
 

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Nitti said:
Could someone explaim his grudge against Wm.Oates and the attempwd placement of a marker for the 15th ala.
Oates wanted to place a memorial to his brother. The GBMA told him to get Chamberlain's approval. Oates wrote to Chamberlain showing where he wanted the monument, and Chamberlain said there was no way he got that far up LRT.
 

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rittmeister said:
alexjack said:
Yes I thought so.
it's really good
Did you watch the whole series? I can stream it on Amazon. Is it worth watching all eight hours?
 

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i'm in episode 7 - definately
 

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I never been a fan of Chamberlain but I learned he had a battle wound that was embarrassing, kill his sex life, and more... he lived a life of fighting infection... lived in pain...

Here is more details and he surgery to remove the bullet was rare... goes into detail about catheter use by Chamberlain...


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By this point the surgeons had begun an unprecedented open wound surgery on Chamberlain in the field hospital with him receiving morphine and chloroform sedation. Halfway through the operation, even with the sedation, the pain became sheer torture for Chamberlain and the surgeons laid down their instruments, thinking that Chamberlain’s agony had gone on long enough and that he should be left to die without further pain. However, a groggy Chamberlain encouraged them to continue and they did, reconnecting severed urinary organs and removing the mime ball that had done so much damage. Hope for recovery was non existent as, shortly after finishing, the exhausted surgeons noted that the surgery had not completely closed, and that urine was still exiting from it.

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On hearing of the wound and assuming it to be fatal, Chamberlains commanders recommended his promotion to Brigadier General. Grant, recalling Chamberlain's many prior acts of bravery, promoted him immediately. Eight stretcher bearers were dispatched to carry Chamberlain 16 miles to City Point, Virginia on the James River north of Petersburg. Here he boarded the hospital ship Connecticut and was transferred to the Naval Academy hospital in Annapolis, Maryland. He arrived with his boots and spurs on, “blood soaked and smeared, hair and beard matted with blood and dirt, pale as death and weak as water." General Gilmore, after visiting Chamberlain on July 5, described his condition in a letter reporting that "His wound is severe, the ball severed the urethra so near the bladder that by no artificial means can all the urine be voided (urinated) without some urine escaping and passing out through his wound. It is feared that ulcers will form in the abdomen and terminate his life"

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Chamberlain’s wound ultimately required 4 subsequent surgeries. Little information is available regarding these procedures, but they could represent attempts at opening up the urethra from the growth excessive scar tissue within the urethra. This was the case for 3 of the procedures, including the first in February 1865, the second in 1866 and the fourth in 1893 in New York City. More information is available about the third repair performed in Boston in l883. An article from The Portland Transcript dated April 25, 1883 details how, with Chamberlain under the influence of ether anesthesia, the fistula (opening in the urethra) was closed by what appears to have been some kind of flap coverage procedure. Despite the optimistic description of the technique, surgery failed and the fistula remained open.



Here is...

LINK: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10687962/

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Abstract
Purpose: Major General Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain is a true American hero. His medical history and war wounds provide a rare snapshot of Civil War era medicine. In particular the most devastating injury was a rifle shot through the pelvis rupturing the bladder and urethra. We describe this injury and how it affected his life to provide insight into late 19th century urological care.
Materials and methods: All available references, including biographies, letters, surgical reports, military documents and prior medical summaries, were reviewed regarding Chamberlain's urological history.
Results: While leading the Union charge to Petersburg, Virginia on June 18, 1864, Chamberlain was struck with a minié ball anteriorly below the right greater trochanter. The ball coursed obliquely upward disrupting the bladder and urethra, and embedded behind the left acetabulum. An unprecedented wound exploration in the field hospital was performed to extract the bullet and "reconnect severed urinary organs." Hope for recovery was nonexistent as urine was seen exiting the lower wound postoperatively. This genitourinary injury required 4 subsequent repairs during Chamberlain's lifetime and ultimately left him with a draining urethrocutaneous fistula at the penoscrotal junction.
Conclusions: Survival from catastrophic Civil War wounds was rare, especially from "gut wounds" which had a mortality rate of greater than 90%. Chamberlain not only survived but thrived with his sense of duty carrying him back to the battlefield and beyond. He was plagued during his life with recurrent cystitis and epididymo-orchitis, which in an era without antibiotics was especially miserable. Urosepsis is listed as the cause of death on his death certificate and whether this was true is debatable. However, even if this wound did not cause his death, it surely contributed to it.

Here a short video about Chamberlain wounds...


 

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Got to say, genitourinary injuries were not uncommon, especially for cavalry. Chamberlain's was a landmark case, however, and greatly advanced the knowledge in that specialty. Hancock also had one just about as dramatic from a piece of shrapnel hitting his saddle at Gettysburg - all sorts of splinters, nails, whatever went...yeah, right there! Like Chamberlain, he had lifelong problems with chronic infections, etc.
 

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Got to say, genitourinary injuries were not uncommon, especially for cavalry. Chamberlain's was a landmark case, however, and greatly advanced the knowledge in that specialty. Hancock also had one just about as dramatic from a piece of shrapnel hitting his saddle at Gettysburg - all sorts of splinters, nails, whatever went...yeah, right there! Like Chamberlain, he had lifelong problems with chronic infections, etc.
In fact, infection was the big killer in the war. A simple antibiotic treatment would have saved thousands of lives.
 
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