Japan had a Choice...

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hitler's perceived treaty-related duty to declare war on the us after pearl harbor?
It was about answering the question four treaties and you found two but I found 5 treaties related to WW2 by Germany... If you read the treaty it if they are attack and japan was not attacked....
 

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It was about answering the question four treaties and you found two but I found 5 treaties related to WW2 by Germany... If you read the treaty it if they are attack and japan was not attacked....
you did ask for treaties? where?


... my post was a response to @Wehrkraftzersetzer - you might see it as a hint that i quoted him
 

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If it was not for this battle the Japanese had with the Soviets, they may have join the Germans in their war with the Soviets. It would have change everything that has come to be... Who would have know a battle in the back waters of the Siberia set the stage for Japan's entrance in to WW2...


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The Battles of Khalkhin Gol were the decisive engagements of the undeclared Soviet–Japanese border conflicts fought among the Soviet Union, Mongolia, Japan and Manchukuo in 1939. The conflict was named after the river Khalkhin Gol, which passes through the battlefield. In Japan, the decisive battle of the conflict is known as the Nomonhan Incident (ノモンハン事件, Nomonhan jiken) after Nomonhan, a nearby village on the border between Mongolia and Manchuria. The battles resulted in the defeat of the Japanese Sixth Army.
 

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Did you know American supplied the Soviets all during WW2 with Soviet flagged ships. The Soviets ran supplies from America back to Russia during WW2 and the Japanese never touched them...

Pacific Route - Wikipedia
 

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Japan thought it had stored enough fuel for two years domestic use or one year war use but were wrong but in true history the oil field they captured yield little for them lack of tankers... our subs ruin the Japanese sea lanes... not counting our airplanes later in the war...

The Pacific War Online Encyclopedia: Oil

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The Japanese badly mismanaged their limited resources of oil. They took the logical step of trying to establish a synthetic oil industry based on their sizable supplies of coal, but this effort failed because of a lack of technical expertise and shortages of alloying and catalytic metals for the synthetic oil plants. The Japanese also suffered a serious loss when an American submarine chanced upon and sank a transport carrying equipment and expert personnel to the southern oil fields. However, demolition of the oil fields of the Netherlands East Indies was carried out rather poorly and production rebounded quickly. The real problem was getting the oil to Japan. The Japanese tanker fleet was never adequate, and insufficient priority was given to building more tankers. Hence much of the production from Southeast Asia never made it to Japan. Although production in Japanese-controlled areas peaked at almost four million barrels a month in 1943, imports to Japan never exceeded about 1.4 million barrels a month. In the last two years of the war, the Japanese Fleet lost its advantage of interior lines of communication because of the necessity of basing much of the fleet near its fuel sources, at Singapore or Tawi Tawi.
 

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The Japanese did not have armor... If the Soviets were able to make thier T-34 tanks, it could have change the Japanese fortunes in a war against the Soviets...
 

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Japan had another choice in 1940... They could have taken the French, British, and the Netherlands colonies in the Pacific. They just had to avoid our territories... Avoid us and keep their Empire...



 
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Fun fact.. The Dutch declare war on the Japanese first....

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The Dutch government-in-exile declared war on Japan the day after the attack on Pearl Harbor, 8 December 1941 (London time). The Japanese, however, did not declare war in turn on the Netherlands until 11 January 1942, possibly in the hope that this would delay the demolition of Dutch oil fields until the japanese were ready move against them.
 
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