Is Secession Legal?

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Gawd how I like slow softballs in debates. Just wish I had not overslept.
 

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It still amazes me how people give zero credit to northern soldiers' fighting to save the Union/nation. Only the rebels, who deliberately attempted to break up that Union/nation, have a love of country. Did it ever occur to these folks that northern immigrants came to America because of the promise of "government of the people, by the people, for the people?" Can northern soldiers not also be patriots? Remember, Davis was the first to introduce conscription. For the first 2+ years of the war, the US Army was 100% volunteers. The USA fought all the way to Gettysburg with an all-volunteer army. Confederates cannot say that.
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It was more difficult for logistics in the North because the South had such poor infrastructure. That's why Jefferson Davis had been trying most of his political career to get the moss-backed planters to allow progress - like a port or shipyard rather than a mere landing. However, Van Dorn's spectacular three pronged raid through north Mississippi and middle Tennessee - him, Morgan and Forrest were a dream team for that - accidentally made a bulb go on over Grant's head. His depot was destroyed, no food or supplies, he would have to withdraw...except Mississippi was the richest state in the country. He was astonished at just how rich when he began to get together replacement foodstuffs and necessities. That gave Sherman ideas, too, for a future march to the sea. At any rate, the cavalrymen did much better than the foot soldiers of the CSA - when Forrest surrendered in Alabama just about everything he turned over had USA stamped or branded on it! He made no requisitions the final two years of the war but supplied himself from the enemy.
The Union army was the 'Walmart' for the Confederate army -- until Grant stopped retreating after every battle and the Confederate army starved.
 

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The Union army was the 'Walmart' for the Confederate army -- until Grant stopped retreating after every battle and the Confederate army starved.
That's so - Grant was doing something else there but that was a happy side effect for him. This is why Forrest stepped up his raids on Union garrisons that were not particularly important - he needed medical supplies and whatever they had on hand.
 

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Gawd how I like slow softballs in debates.
"Hit em inside out" look to where they are playin' you shallow and send 'em into right field, it's all in the wrists...and the footwork. ;) Got a few inside the parks that way, and I'm slower than George Thomas.
 

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I'm slower than George Thomas.

I still remember Tony Perez #24 once saying, "I am slower than I look Joe." :D He o/c was speaking of his speed on the base-paths.


I was there at the game when they retired his number. When they traded him to the Montreal Expos The Big Red Machine broke down as the main cog was gone. :mad: Traded for Woodie Fryman --a Kentucky boy--and trash... I'm still pissed about it.
 
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