If Only One... WHO...

[5fish]

IF Only One

A Question:

If you could travel back in time and change the history(or outcome or a battle) of the civil war for the better or for the worst by taking a life of a famous figure of that period would you do it?

Or

What if you knew if you kill an unknown figure of the civil war period it would change the the history(out come or a battle)would you do it then?

What famous figure of history would you go back and kill to change the history of the civil War?


Think by killing just one figure the war could ended years earlier or not even begin at all. Think of the lives that could be saved.

Think the South could have won it independence and be a free and separate nation today all by killing just one figure in history

Think about by killing one figure you could have saved the life of one of your ancestor(s).

 

[5fish]

I see we have no assassins among us or none of you can bring yourselves to killing off one of our beloved Civil War figures. We adore.

I bet if any of us could go back in time and kill Hitler we would all do it so what makes killing Lee, Lincoln, or anyone else different.

If we kill Lee in the few months prior to the McCLellan campaign for Richmond, he would have taken Richmond by Winter. The war would have ended sooner and many lives saved. Is that not a good thing???

If we kill Hood in the Fall of 1864 no Franklin thousand of lives saved...Is this not a good thing?

So why is it Okay to take out Hitler but not some other figure of history that also sent thousands of people to thier death...What's the standard one uses to decide which figure of history should die or not??

If you could go back in time and save a your grandpa's life, are you not obligated to do so even if it changes history forever...

In the movie Wanted the assassin's creed was "kill one to save a thousand lives", I am talking "kill one and save ten of thousands or even a million lives".
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Search your heart if you could save thousands, or millions of lives by killing a single man. Would you do it?


Off to plan an assassination of??...

 

[rittmeister]

jehan cauvin, there's no doubt about it - i'd drown him like a cat in a sack (obviously at a time when he still fits into such a sack).

that's actually a question i thought about for years. the thing is we probably be of a lot worse because that stuff was in the air. killing off a bigwig might not kill the movement. i'm rather sure if it worked there'd not be a lot of later villains. but then the holy mother church might have gone in total overdrive.

there would be no american civil war, as those mayflower dudes would have never left that wet island off the coast of western europe.

fortunately we don't have that chance

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

I kill the guy who founded that awkward religion called math

 

[rittmeister]

I kill the guy who founded that awkward religion called math

that truely sounds like flatearther's position

 

[5fish]

fortunately we don't have that chance

Would You---

Do think it is interesting that the first person that comes to mind for most people is Booth if one had the chance to assassinate one figure form the Civil war.

Is that not a sign of our nation's admiration of Lincoln?

I agree that eliminating a figure form the past only bring uncertainty to the historical outcome but if you do not like the way history turned out then the issue of uncertainty is illreveltent. The issue is to change the outcome..

I like the idea of going back and trying to preserve a figure form the past that died before they should have. I like that would be a bigger challenge then being an assassin. Even by preserving a figure, one brings uncertainty to the historical outcome of the future..

I propose. If you come go back and change the historical outcome of a Civil War event, would you do it out knowing the future ramification of your action only knowing that the outcome Civil War event would change.

Would you put our known history at risk to change an historical outcome you despise...

Off to ponder the death of history...

 

[5fish]

religion called math

This is for our math fan...

Using part Chaos math theory understood as the Butterfly Effect....You know a butterfly flaps its wing in China causes a blizzard in New York state later.

If you master Chaos Math theory a figure out you could kill a innocence person back in the 1830's would cause the Civil War to never be..... or if you kill an innocence person back in the 1820's would cause the south to win the Civil War ....

Would you if you could go back in time, kill this innocence person...

Would it even be an option...??

 

[rittmeister]

I like the idea of going back and trying to preserve a figure form the past that died before they should have. I like that would be a bigger challenge then being an assassin. Even by preserving a figure, one brings uncertainty to the historical outcome of the future

also easy: thomas sankara (obviously not acw related)

as to rex hamilton:

 

[diane]

Well...there's always the theory that history would not change even if you changed it. For a Civil War figure, one might argue Forrest. He was charismatic, became a Robin Hood figure both during the war and for over a century after it. Major influence for generations of Southern lads, the ones Faulkner spoke of in Intruders in the Dust - waiting for Pickett's charge. He was also the guy that gave the klan its flexible structure - maybe it would have died out if it could have been totally stamped out. He later called his participation in it the worst mistake of his life, and he's sure not going to get an argument about that! However, during the war there were so many near misses and opportunities for him to be killed, or assassinated (one of his lieutenants tried mighty hard!) that it was a real miracle he survived the war.

There's also Sheridan, who seemed to be Sherman's personal angel of death as far as the Plains people were concerned. Sherman is the guy who confirmed Sutter did indeed find gold in them thar hills - and the 1849 Gold Rush was on. That spelled complete annihilation for all the Natives in central and northern California. Of course, as far as that goes we could go back to when US history started - George Washington, the Destroyer of Towns. (Didn't much like the Hudson Valley being full of Mohawks!)

 

[rittmeister]

Well...there's always the theory that history would not change even if you changed it. For a Civil War figure, one might argue Forrest. He was charismatic, became a Robin Hood figure both during the war and for over a century after it. Major influence for generations of Southern lads, the ones Faulkner spoke of in Intruders in the Dust - waiting for Pickett's charge. He was also the guy that gave the klan its flexible structure - maybe it would have died out if it could have been totally stamped out. He later called his participation in it the worst mistake of his life, and he's sure not going to get an argument about that! However, during the war there were so many near misses and opportunities for him to be killed, or assassinated (one of his lieutenants tried mighty hard!) that it was a real miracle he survived the war.

There's also Sheridan, who seemed to be Sherman's personal angel of death as far as the Plains people were concerned. Sherman is the guy who confirmed Sutter did indeed find gold in them thar hills - and the 1849 Gold Rush was on. That spelled complete annihilation for all the Natives in central and northern California. Of course, as far as that goes we could go back to when US history started - George Washington, the Destroyer of Towns. (Didn't much like the Hudson Valley being full of Mohawks!)

which of them? ... and when do you want to kill him?

 

[diane]

Oh, there can only be one? Well, I'll have to go with Sheridan - think he'd look good on a lodge pole over the river!

 

[rittmeister]

Oh, there can only be one? Well, I'll have to go with Sheridan - think he'd look good on a lodge pole over the river!

when? after the acw and before he got nasty to (you know whom)?

 

[diane]

It would have to be before the ACW! He was hanging out in Oregon before the CW started - keeping the pioneer trails safe, you know. Then he was a squirt but still managed mischief.

 

[rittmeister]

It would have to be before the ACW! He was hanging out in Oregon before the CW started - keeping the pioneer trails safe, you know. Then he was a squirt but still managed mischief.

that's way beyond my knowledge but i guess

keeping the pioneer trails safe, you know.

means shooting up guys wearing feathers.

 

[5fish]

which of them? ... and when do you want to kill him?

And who would you, pick and when...

 

[5fish]

Chaos math theory understood as the Butterfly Effect....

So we have no math fans among us...

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

So we have no math fans among us...

but may be worshipers

 

[rittmeister]

And who would you, pick and when...

i was the first on record whom i'd kill

So we have no math fans among us...

says who? count me as a math freak

 

[rittmeister]

but may be worshipers

like you? your 'puter wouldn't work without math

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

like you? your 'puter wouldn't work without math

my Puter works by sacrificing a chicken every month. He knows if he doesn't work , he will be sacrificed

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