Hadrian Wall or Maginot Line...

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I want to point out Australia has stone walls too... mostly built in the 19th century...

https://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2007/06/13/1949948.htm

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Dry stone walls were first implemented into the landscape in Australia around the Kiama and Western Victoria regions in the 1830's. By the1870's the walls had made their way to Northern New South Wales.

Here is another link...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05...f the dry stone,and were guarded by shepherds.

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Most of the dry stone walls extending across farmland had a dual role — to clear properties of troublesome rock, while also defining boundaries and paddocks. When European settlers started taking up land in the early 1800s, their sheep roamed on fenceless plains and were guarded by shepherds.

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Mr Munday said the longest continuous dry stone wall in Australia is the Camel Hump, which stretches approximately 65 kilometres from Farrell Flat to Booborowie in South Australia's mid-north.

snip... One person built a long wall to stop Australia's fame rabbit rampage...

The Rabbit Wall is one of the more significant structures in the region.

Built by the pioneering Manifold Brothers in the 1860s, its purpose was to halt the western march of rabbits across newly established farmland.

It was not very successful in stopping their progress, and to this day warrens around the base of the 20-kilometre-long wall reveal the pests are still causing trouble.

"Why you'd ever think building a 20-kilometre wall with a smooth face on one side would stop the spreads of rabbits, beats me," Mr Holdsworth said.
 

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I want to point out Australia has stone walls too... mostly built in the 19th century...

https://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2007/06/13/1949948.htm

snip...

Dry stone walls were first implemented into the landscape in Australia around the Kiama and Western Victoria regions in the 1830's. By the1870's the walls had made their way to Northern New South Wales.

Here is another link...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-17/dry-stone-walls-should-be-heritage-listed,-organisation-says/6469316#:~:text=Most of the dry stone,and were guarded by shepherds.

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Most of the dry stone walls extending across farmland had a dual role — to clear properties of troublesome rock, while also defining boundaries and paddocks. When European settlers started taking up land in the early 1800s, their sheep roamed on fenceless plains and were guarded by shepherds.

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Mr Munday said the longest continuous dry stone wall in Australia is the Camel Hump, which stretches approximately 65 kilometres from Farrell Flat to Booborowie in South Australia's mid-north.

snip... One person built a long wall to stop Australia's fame rabbit rampage...

The Rabbit Wall is one of the more significant structures in the region.

Built by the pioneering Manifold Brothers in the 1860s, its purpose was to halt the western march of rabbits across newly established farmland.

It was not very successful in stopping their progress, and to this day warrens around the base of the 20-kilometre-long wall reveal the pests are still causing trouble.

"Why you'd ever think building a 20-kilometre wall with a smooth face on one side would stop the spreads of rabbits, beats me," Mr Holdsworth said.
what is their purpose? keep out the kiwis?
 

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what is their purpose? keep out the kiwis?
Right idea but wrong animal... are not kiwi's in New Zealand... It seem these stone walls were used to keep pest animals off the pastoral lands... like the wall mention at the link...


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The Jimbour Dry Stone Wall is located on a low, stony ridge to the north of Jimbour Homestead, the former head station on the once expansive Jimbour pastoral run on the Darling Downs. The wall was constructed most likely during the 1870s, apparently as a barrier to prevent sheep from crossing the stony ridge, to keep dingoes from preying on the sheep and to prevent wallabies from destroying crops planted in paddocks close to the head station
 

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Here a map of Virginia and her rivers... Lee used the Rappahannock to rest his army behind it. You see the river system the Confederacy should have been able to use the rivers to keep the union army at bay... If you look at the map the battle are marked... all those battle are within miles of each other... Why did lee let them cross the river unhindered...

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Here is Thermopylae pass today and then... the shoreline has moved over time...

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It must be noted that during ancient times the Thermopylae straits were as narrow as 10 to 100 meters (32.8 -328 ft.), bordered on one side by abrupt mountain cliffs (towards the south) and on the other side (the north) by the sea. This was the main passage to reach southern Greece, although the terrain in this area is varied (full of anomalous mountains) all the way to the Ionian Sea.

The was a wall built there to keep the Persians out... or for the battle...


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The picture of the Phocian Wall so far is clear, it was a stone wall some 12 feet tall with a parapet wall along the top and a gateway on its landward end. But there is a serious problem as to its actual site. On the southern end the wall would have been built flush to the almost sheer mountainside, but at the northern end the sea gave a much less secure flank. The coast here was one of sandy beaches, and it is impossible to build a stone wall on a sand beach without it collapsing in the first storm to hit. Any attackers would simply need to wade into the sea to their waists and walk around the right flank of any wall built at the Middle Gate.

https://www.historyfiles.co.uk/FeaturesEurope/GreeceSpartaBattles01.htm

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The pass at Thermopylae was the site of a heroic defeat for the Greeks, as they tried unsuccessfully to defend it in battle against a huge Persian army in 480 BC. However, the defeat served as a rallying call for all of Greece, and remains an everlasting symbol of heroic resistance against overwhelming enemy numbers.
 

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Here a map of Virginia and her rivers... Lee used the Rappahannock to rest his army behind it. You see the river system the Confederacy should have been able to use the rivers to keep the union army at bay... If you look at the map the battle are marked... all those battle are within miles of each other... Why did lee let them cross the river unhindered...

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The opening thread and this picture make a good argument...
 

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I have found a wall structure almost as long as the The Great Wall of China... It called The Wall of Benin in Africa...


The Walls of Benin are a series of earthworks made up of banks and ditches, called Iya in the Edo language, in the area around present-day Benin City, the capital of present-day Edo, Nigeria. They consist of 15 km (9.3 mi) of city iya and an estimated 16,000 kilometres (9,900 miles) of rural iya in the area around Benin.[1] The 'walls' of Benin City and surrounding areas were described as "the world's largest earthworks carried out prior to the mechanical era" by the Guinness book of Records.[2] Some estimates suggest that the walls of Benin may have been constructed between the thirteenth and mid-fifteenth century CE[3] and others suggest that the walls of Benin (in the Esan region) may have been constructed during the first millennium CE

Here is a good article on the Walls of Benin city...


Now, however, the great Benin City is lost to history. Its decline began in the 15th century, sparked by internal conflicts linked to the increasing European intrusion and slavery trade at the borders of the Benin empire.

Then in 1897, the city was destroyed by British soldiers – looted, blown up and burnt to the ground. My great grandparents were among the many who fled following the sacking of the city; they were members of the elite corps of the king’s doctors.

Nowadays, while a modern Benin City has risen on the same plain, the ruins of its former, grander namesake are not mentioned in any tourist guidebook to the area. They have not been preserved, nor has a miniature city or touristic replica been made to keep alive the memory of this great ancient city.
 

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More on the Wall City of Benin...


For the Benin people, their security was assured. As summarised by the Portuguese ship captain Lorenzo Pinto, visiting in 1674, “Great Benin, where the King resides, is larger than Lisbon; all the streets run straight as far as the eye can see. The houses are large, especially that of the King, which is richly decorated and has fine columns. The city is wealthy and industrious. It is so well organised that theft is unknown and people live in such security that they have no doors to their houses.”

Here some video's on the Wall of Benin city...

 

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I found another Roman wall but more like a wall of forts along the shores of Britain and Northern France today and some of these forts still stand today. The forts were built to fight pirates that roamed the seas back in the day... These fortifications were called the Litus Saxonicum ‘Saxon Shore frontier’.


The Saxon Shore (Latin: litus Saxonicum) was a military command of the late Roman Empire, consisting of a series of fortifications on both sides of the Channel. It was established in the late 3rd century and was led by the "Count of the Saxon Shore". In the late 4th century, his functions were limited to Britain, while the fortifications in Gaul were established as separate commands. Several Saxon Shore forts survive in east and southeast England.

Here is the French side called The Dux Belgicae secundae ("commander of the second Belgic province")


The Dux Belgicae secundae ("commander of the second Belgic province") was a senior officer in the army of the Late Roman Empire who was the commander of the limitanei (frontier troops) and of a naval squadron on the so-called Saxon Shore in Gaul.

The office is thought to have been established around 395 AD. At the imperial court, a dux was of the highest class of vir illustris. The Notitia Dignitatum lists for the Gallic part of the Litus Saxonicum ("the Coast of Saxony") two commanders, and their military units, who were charged with securing the coasts of Flanders (Belgica II), of Normandy (Lugdunensis II), and of Brittany (Lugdunensis III), these commanders being the Dux Belgicae secundae[1] and the neighboring Dux Armoricani et Nervicani
 

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An overview maps... of the Saxon Shore...

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We all the Berlin Wall but a town in Northern Ireland was the last walled city in Europe Derry...

There is a good two min video embedded in the article about the Derry wall built in the 1600s...


Derry is the last walled city to be built in Europe, Ireland’s first planned and only completely walled city remaining and the walls are the largest monument in state care in Northern Ireland, Phew! The walls were built between 1613-1618 to protect the early ‘planted’ Protestant settlers and a royal charter was granted by King James I when the ‘London’ prefix was added thus changing its name to Londonderry (even though Derry is still more commonly used). They are approximately one mile in circumference and the 4 original gates were Ferryquay Gate, Bishop’s Gate, Butcher Gate, and Shipquay Gate.

The Derry walls have a poem...


Derry's Walls" is a historical song sung in Northern Ireland. It commemorates the Siege of Derry in 1689.[1] The author of the words is unknown, and it is sung to the tune of "God Bless the Prince of Wales.” A modified rendition is also popular amongst supporters of Rangers F.C.
 

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It gets better in the 1960s the Brits double on walls and build the peace walls in North Ireland...


Rosaleen Petticrew once had a compelling reason to appreciate the high walls that separated her Catholic part of Belfast from the adjoining Protestant neighbourhood.

These walls in Northern Ireland are also called Peace Lines...


The peace lines or peace walls are a series of separation barriers in Northern Ireland that separate predominantly Irish republican and nationalist Catholic neighbourhoods from predominantly British loyalist and unionist Protestant neighbourhoods. They have been built at urban interface areas in Belfast and elsewhere. The majority of peace walls are located in Belfast, but they also exist in other regions with more than 20 miles of walls in Northern Ireland.[1]

The stated purpose of the peace lines is to minimise inter-communal violence between Catholics (most of whom are nationalists who self-identify as Irish[6]) and Protestants (most of whom are unionists who self-identify as British[6]).

The peace lines range in length from a few hundred metres (yards) to over 5 kilometres (3 mi). They may be made of iron, brick, steel or a combination of the three and are up to 8 metres (25 feet) high.[7][8] Some have gates in them (sometimes staffed by police) that allow passage during daylight but are closed at night.

In recent years, they have even become locations for tourism. Black taxis now take groups of tourists around Belfast's peace lines, trouble spots and famous murals.


It seems the walls are becoming murals... some videos of the murals...


 
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