GOP Civil War?

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He saying the Republic can manage Trump and his coalition they could dominate federal politics with their minority position within the population. I think it was all Trump personality driven once he gone, its gone. I read about the Hispanic vote besides the socialist slur many Hispanic that voted for Trump self identify as white and hate the term for Hispanic "men of color"... some racial overtones...

If she had maintained Obama’s coalition — if her 49.6 percent had the same ratio of college-to-non-college-educated voters as Obama had in 2012 — she would have won that election. And then, if you look at the implications that would have had down-ballot, especially in the Senate, Republicans would have been a lot worse off with a narrow majority coalition — that had a Romney-esque split between college and non-college voters — than they were with the Trump coalition.

So I think the Trump era has been very good for the Republican Party, even if they now, momentarily, have to accept this very, very, very thin Democratic trifecta. Because if these coalition changes are durable, the GOP has very rosy long-term prospects for dominating America’s federal institutions.
 
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He saying the Republic can manage Trump and his coalition they could dominate federal politics with their minority position within the population. I think it was all Trump personality driven once he gone, its gone. I read about the Hispanic vote besides the socialist slur many Hispanic that voted for Trump self identify as white and hate the term for Hispanic "men of color"... some racial overtones...

If she had maintained Obama’s coalition — if her 49.6 percent had the same ratio of college-to-non-college-educated voters as Obama had in 2012 — she would have won that election. And then, if you look at the implications that would have had down-ballot, especially in the Senate, Republicans would have been a lot worse off with a narrow majority coalition — that had a Romney-esque split between college and non-college voters — than they were with the Trump coalition.

So I think the Trump era has been very good for the Republican Party, even if they now, momentarily, have to accept this very, very, very thin Democratic trifecta. Because if these coalition changes are durable, the GOP has very rosy long-term prospects for dominating America’s federal institutions.
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OTOH He is an advocate that gins things to benefit him and his POV. Things are in such a state of flux that IMHO there is no way of knowing what will happen in 2022. How much the GOP is the Party of Trump will matter in 2022
 
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How Republicans Misunderstand the 2020 Turnout Story

Harry Enten: "Numerous Republican state legislatures are trying to pass new voter restriction legislation (e.g. limiting absentee and early voting). Meanwhile, Democrats in Congress are trying to pass laws that expand access to the ballot box.""The moves from both camps come after an election wi
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He saying the Republic can manage Trump and his coalition they could dominate federal politics with their minority position within the population. I think it was all Trump personality driven once he gone, its gone. I read about the Hispanic vote besides the socialist slur many Hispanic that voted for Trump self identify as white and hate the term for Hispanic "men of color"... some racial overtones...

If she had maintained Obama’s coalition — if her 49.6 percent had the same ratio of college-to-non-college-educated voters as Obama had in 2012 — she would have won that election. And then, if you look at the implications that would have had down-ballot, especially in the Senate, Republicans would have been a lot worse off with a narrow majority coalition — that had a Romney-esque split between college and non-college voters — than they were with the Trump coalition.

So I think the Trump era has been very good for the Republican Party, even if they now, momentarily, have to accept this very, very, very thin Democratic trifecta. Because if these coalition changes are durable, the GOP has very rosy long-term prospects for dominating America’s federal institutions.
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When the head of the GOP, the last GOP president, sues the GOP we are in uncharted territory.
 
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Analysis: How Dr. Seuss explains Biden's big win on Covid bill

The Republican Party's inability to ignite a grassroots backlash against the $1.9 trillion Democratic Covid relief bill moving toward final passage underscores the GOP's transformation into a coalition energized primarily by cultural and racial grievance -- and the opportunity that opens for...
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"Concerns about cultural influence, political power and status are really overwhelming other ideological concerns on the right," says Daniel Cox, a research fellow at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, who recently published an exhaustive national survey of attitudes among GOP voters. "Traditional conservative principles, whether it's commitment to a strong national defense or support for limited government, do not animate Republican voters."
 
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Senate Republicans bailing out on 2022 are opening the door for more QAnon candidates and Trumpers

A slew of Republican senators have thrown in the towel. At least five GOP incumbents are planning not to run for re-election next year, making way for a potential seismic ideological shift in the upper chamber.With most of the outgoing lawmakers considered to be old school, pragmatic...
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You realized some of them will be replaced by right wing conspiracy kooks... the party is in decline...
 
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Extremist militia groups are 'turning on themselves' -- and ‘starting to go underground’: MSNBC reporter

MSNBC reporter Cal Perry revealed to host Nicolle Wallace that "paranoid" white supremacist and militia groups are starting to "go underground." In a discussion about George Floyd's accused murderer, Derek Chauvin, Wallace asked if there was a concern that violent militia groups would be present...
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Extremist Militas have an excellent reason to be paranoid be because fifty plus years ago the FBi Cointelpro was excellent at infiltrating the KKK and the Black Panthers. The Weatherman Underground was very small as well as the Black Liberation Army.
During the Troubles of Northern Ireland the Brtish Security Forces infiltrated the IRA, INLA and various Protestant Terror groups.
Yes the British still lost men but t has much if they didn't infiltrate.
So yes the Militas need to be paranoid.
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The Five Tribes of the Republican Party

New York Times: “The Republican Party in the era following Donald J. Trump’s presidency is comprised of five ‘tribes’ that have ranging affinity for the former president and different desires when it comes to seeing him continue to lead the party, according to a new survey by Mr. Trump’s f
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It's just what I have been saying along. At this point in time with out Trump on the ticket the Republicans can't win the presidency. At this stage in time the best hope for the party elders is to feed Trump an endless supply of fast food and convince that yes indeed chain smoking tabbaco is the new health health food.
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Here is a conservative think tank rejects America... by someone named Ellmers... the articles go into how the republicans are not the party for democracy...

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The conservative movement is rejecting America

A recent essay in a prominent right-wing outlet gives an unusually clear window into the modern right’s anti-democratic worldview.
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“Most people living in the United States today — certainly more than half — are not Americans in any meaningful sense of the term,” Glenn Ellmers, the essay’s author, writes. “They do not believe in, live by, or even like the principles, traditions, and ideals that until recently defined America as a nation and as a people. It is not obvious what we should call these citizen-aliens, these non-American Americans; but they are something else."

These seditious citizens are opposed, according to Ellmers, by “the 75 million people who voted in the last election against the senile figurehead of a party that stands for mob violence, ruthless censorship, and racial grievances, not to mention bureaucratic despotism.” If Trump voters and conservatives do not band together and fight “a sort of counter-revolution,” then “the victory of progressive tyranny will be assured. See you in the gulag.”

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“The US Constitution no longer works,” Ellmers writes. “What is actually required now is a recovery, or even a refounding, of America as it was long and originally understood but which now exists only in the hearts and minds of a minority of citizens.”

In a sense, Ellmers is right that America’s political system no longer works. He’s just wrong about who broke it — and why.
 
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9/11 was a tragedy a day of horror and heroism but there was a greater the harm done in its name... to people and Democracy

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