GOP Civil War?

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jgoodguy said:
www.buzzfeednews.com

Trump Can Still Be The Republican Party’s Future. Just Look To Arizona.

Arizona Republicans keep losing — but the state party has already turned itself into a Trump machine, still trying to win an election that's long over. And that might be the future of conservatism.
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But this string of failure hasn’t yet prompted a course correction in Republican politics here, instead strengthening Trumpist resolve. Arizona has for decades been the cutting edge of right-wing US politics, an early warning system for where national Republican politics were headed.

Since the 1980's when the Republicans lost elections especially National ones the answer for the loss was "They were not conservative enough to win." The sad truth it seemed to be true because they come back a win an election being even further to the kooky right. I think its run its course because the party is just nuts now can not go any further to the right, unless they truly want to be autocrats...
 
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5fish said:
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But this string of failure hasn’t yet prompted a course correction in Republican politics here, instead strengthening Trumpist resolve. Arizona has for decades been the cutting edge of right-wing US politics, an early warning system for where national Republican politics were headed.

Since the 1980's when the Republicans lost elections especially National ones the answer for the loss was "They were not conservative enough to win." The sad truth it seemed to be true because they come back a win an election being even further to the kooky right. I think its run its course because the party is just nuts now can not go any further to the right, unless they truly want to be autocrats...
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I am no sure if they can agree on who will be boss.
 
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Here is a list of people arrested many with photo's... I bet @O' Be Joyful , @jgoodguy know a few of them... It may be the complete list as 235 as for now 400 more to go or more... There is a bio on each trip to Washington...

January 6 Capitol Riot Arrests

See who has been arrested in the Capitol riots. USA TODAY is gathering the latest as prosecutors continue to issue charges.
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5fish said:
Here is a list of people arrested many with photo's... I bet @O' Be Joyful , @jgoodguy know a few of them... It may be the complete list as 235 as for now 400 more to go or more... There is a bio on each trip to Washington...

January 6 Capitol Riot Arrests

See who has been arrested in the Capitol riots. USA TODAY is gathering the latest as prosecutors continue to issue charges.
www.usatoday.com www.usatoday.com
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The FBI came by to question me. I gave them a picture of you and said you were Trump's, confidant instigator.
 
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5fish said:
Here half of the GOP would join Trump's Party...

www.google.com

Poll: Almost Half of Republicans Would Drop GOP, Join Trump Party

The Suffolk University/USA Today poll shows Trump are far more loyal to the former president than to the Republican Party.
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For practical purposes Trump only lost the election by 44k votes between,Wi,Ga,and Az. No Repubican can get to 270 without those three state in their collum. If just ten percent of the Repubican Party voters vote either for the Orange Fuerer vs a Never Trumper in the 2024 election or just stay home or vote for some wacky third party then the Democratic Party Candidate wins.
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IMHO also true of any political movement in its end stages.

www.theatlantic.com

The Republican Party Is Now in Its End Stages

The GOP has become, in form if not in content, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union of the late 1970s.
www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com

The elite leaders of this supposedly classless society were corrupt plutocrats, a mafia dressed in Marxism. The party was infested by careerists, and its grip on power was defended by propagandists who used rote phrases such as “real socialism” and “Western imperialism” so often that almost anyone could write an editorial in Pravda or Red Star merely by playing a kind of Soviet version of Mad Libs. News was tightly controlled. Soviet radio, television, and newspaper figures plowed on through stories that were utterly detached from reality, regularly extolling the successes of Soviet agriculture even as the country was forced to buy food from the capitalists (including the hated Americans). ​
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Members of the Communist Party who questioned anything, or expressed any sign of unorthodoxy, could be denounced by name, or more likely, simply fired. They would not be executed—this was not Stalinism, after all—but some were left to rot in obscurity in some make-work exile job, eventually retiring as a forgotten “Comrade Pensioner.” The deal was clear: Pump the party’s nonsense and enjoy the good life, or squawk and be sent to manage a library in Kazakhstan. ​
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The Republican Party has, for years, ignored the ideas and principles it once espoused, to the point where the 2020 GOP convention simply dispensed with the fiction of a platform and instead declared the party to be whatever Comrade—excuse me, President—Donald Trump said it was. ​
 
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Leftyhunter said:
For practical purposes Trump only lost the election by 44k votes between,Wi,Ga,and Az. No Repubican can get to 270 without those three state in their collum. If just ten percent of the Repubican Party voters vote either for the Orange Fuerer vs a Never Trumper in the 2024 election or just stay home or vote for some wacky third party then the Democratic Party Candidate wins.
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I'd add Texas to that list as well as North Carolina because they are possible flips to the Dems.
 
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jgoodguy said:
I'd add Texas to that list as well as North Carolina because they are possible flips to the Dems.
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Trump won Texas by five percentage points but the vote was much close in Nc something like 1.5%.
Trump actually increased his voter support among Hispanics in the Rio Grande Valley.
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Leftyhunter said:
www.theatlantic.com

The Republican Party Is Now in Its End Stages

The GOP has become, in form if not in content, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union of the late 1970s.
www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com
This is a very good article that argues that the current GOP is very similar to the CCCP of the late 2970s
@jgoodguy,@5fish 0'be joyful
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cccp is not the comunist party it the soviet union itself - they use the cyrilic alphabet, you know
 
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