Germany's Dreams of Formosa...

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Germany dreams of Formosa in the late 19th century... It was Prussia that started off their Far East colonial desires...

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2022/06/27/2003780629

The Prussians had wanted to follow up the Americans with an expedition of their own. In 1858, when William I became regent, the idea of entering the colonial race in the Far East began to take shape in the Prussian policy imagination. Prussia Far Eastern policy would exhibit an off-again, on-again yearning for the island, until the Japanese put a lid on it in 1895 when they annexed it.

With the Prussian expedition was explorer, diplomat, geologist and ethnographer Ferdinand Freiherr von Richthofen, a man who would be involved with Prussian ventures in the Far East for the next quarter-century. Today he is best known for coining the term “Silk Road.”
 

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German's colonial dreams...

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The principal German colonial possessions were its African holdings (German East Africa, Togoland, German Southwest Africa, and Cameroons) and its Far East territories (German New Guinea, Samoa, the Chinese leasehold of Kiaochow, and a number of small island groups). Defended in most cases only by a very small number of mercenary "protective forces," trained more for maintaining order than for actual combat, Germany's colonies lay largely exposed to the superior colonial forces of powers such as Great Britain and France.

In the case of the Germany's Far East colonies, the threat came not from the European powers directly but from their allies and dominions.
Long resenting Germany's presence in the South Pacific, New Zealand and Australia immediately set about occupying Germany's colonies according to a prewar arrangement that awarded German Samoa to New Zealand and western New Guinea to Australia.
 

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... if you want to know more search for ein platz an der sonne
 

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ein platz an der sonne
Your place in the sun...


The coining of the word “ place in the sun ” came from a statement by Bernhard von Bülow (1849–1929) in a Reichstag debate on December 6, 1897, where he formulated the following in connection with German colonial policy:

"In a word: we don't want to outshine anyone, but we also demand our place in the sun."
At that time, von Bülow was State Secretary of the Foreign Office of the German Empire ; from 1900 to 1909 he was Chancellor of the Reich .

The coining of the word later became a dictum. It is considered a vivid metaphor of Germany's striving for world power in the period before the First World War , when Bismarck's policy of alliances was abandoned and the foreign policy of the Wilhelmine Reich favored the naval arms race with Great Britain.

In the Reichstag on November 20, 1900 , Eugen Richter (1838–1906) mockingly remarked in his condemnation of Kaiser Wilhelm II ’s “ Hun Speech ” : [1]

"Yesterday's remarks by the Reich Chancellor pointed out quite sharply that, if the situation arises, Germany could also proceed with further land acquisitions. I don't agree; I am of the opinion that the place in the sun is already hot enough for us in Kiaochow that we cannot feel any inclination to expand the territory or the sphere of interest in any direction."
And similarly in the naval rearmament debate on December 14, 1899: [2]

“Kiautschou, the famous place 'in the sun' (cheerfulness on the left), costs us quite dearly, the millions melt there like butter. (Very good! and hilarity left.)”
The SPD endorsed this line of argument in its agitation against German colonialism , in which the term Platz an der Sonne was often sarcastically contrasted with the immense costs incurred by the German colonies, particularly in the Kiautschou case .
 

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Your place in the sun...


The coining of the word “ place in the sun ” came from a statement by Bernhard von Bülow (1849–1929) in a Reichstag debate on December 6, 1897, where he formulated the following in connection with German colonial policy:


At that time, von Bülow was State Secretary of the Foreign Office of the German Empire ; from 1900 to 1909 he was Chancellor of the Reich .

The coining of the word later became a dictum. It is considered a vivid metaphor of Germany's striving for world power in the period before the First World War , when Bismarck's policy of alliances was abandoned and the foreign policy of the Wilhelmine Reich favored the naval arms race with Great Britain.

In the Reichstag on November 20, 1900 , Eugen Richter (1838–1906) mockingly remarked in his condemnation of Kaiser Wilhelm II ’s “ Hun Speech ” : [1]


And similarly in the naval rearmament debate on December 14, 1899: [2]


The SPD endorsed this line of argument in its agitation against German colonialism , in which the term Platz an der Sonne was often sarcastically contrasted with the immense costs incurred by the German colonies, particularly in the
Kiautschou case .
... but then german colonialism gave you tsingtao beer
 

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I seem to recall a naval confrontation between US Commodore George Dewey and a German fleet in Manila Harbor in 1898. Am I remembering that correctly?
 

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just a dispute among people who wanted to get the spanish colonial heritage into their posession
 

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US Commodore George Dewey and a German fleet in Manila Harbor in 1898
It seems you are right... this is a great little article about colonial cold war in the The French and Brits...


It seemed almost certain, however, that Dewey’s squadron of three vessels would be defeated by the Spanish squadron of six, and that the Germans could then negotiate with Spain for the purchase of her turbulent islands, but when Dewey’s squadron was increased to six, it seemed more than likely that the situation would be reversed. Germany then made her first cold war move by contracting for all the coal in Hong Kong, or in transit to Hong Kong. Dewey, however, beat the Germans to it by purchasing, with the approval of Great Britain, the collier Nanshan, loaded with coal, which was then nearing Hong Kong.
 

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Here a correspondence by President McKinley... click the link...


Six weeks after Dewey defeated the Spanish fleet at Manila Bay, a German fleet sought to set up a naval base there. The British, French, and Japanese also sought bases in the Philippines. Unaware that the Philippines were the only predominantly Catholic nation in Asia, President McKinley said that American occupation was necessary to "uplift and Christianize" the Filipinos.
 

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It seems you are right... this is a great little article about colonial cold war in the The French and Brits...

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It seemed almost certain, however, that Dewey’s squadron of three vessels would be defeated by the Spanish squadron of six, and that the Germans could then negotiate with Spain for the purchase of her turbulent islands, but when Dewey’s squadron was increased to six, it seemed more than likely that the situation would be reversed. Germany then made her first cold war move by contracting for all the coal in Hong Kong, or in transit to Hong Kong. Dewey, however, beat the Germans to it by purchasing, with the approval of Great Britain, the collier Nanshan, loaded with coal, which was then nearing Hong Kong.
Very interesting article!
 

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Here a video will show you other dreams of Colonialism...

 
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