General Lee's Newspapers and Black Confederates

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General, can you provide more information on the sources of your documentation - dates, etc.? It makes conversation a lot easier if we don't have to track stuff down like that picture up there from the Little Rock parade.



But we don't need to find our evidence when your own evidence supports our position.

Did you read what we discovered about your photo?

Yeah I saw. Alright I'll be more specific. But the date and everything else is right here and it speaks for itself for this piece of evidence.
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Yeah I saw. Alright I'll be more specific. But the date and everything else is right here and it speaks for itself for this piece of evidence.
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I notice that all these articles are second-hand. "A soldier of ours" or Lieutenant so-and-so said. There are no first hand accounts in these kinds of articles.
 

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I notice that all these articles are second-hand. "A soldier of ours" or Lieutenant so-and-so said. There are no first hand accounts in these kinds of articles.
At best we have a report that James A. Walker of Company H of 2nd Maryland said so and so. I have no real problem with that,
However, there is no record of a James A. Walker of Company H in the 2nd Maryland that I could find in the Soldiers and Sailors Database.
The recorded Colonel of the Regiment was Col. John Sommer not James A Mulligan in the article. That Mulligan was a colonel of an Illinois regiment. Nor was the 2nd Maryland at the Battle described in the article that I can find.

I look forward for enlightenment.
 

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Wasn't Gen. James Mulligan in Missouri? Might be mixing him up with someone else, but I thought he was at the sure-hard-to-forget-that-name Battle of the Hemp Bales! There's a reference to Brock's Gap - Shenandoah Valley Campaign with Sheridan? Mulligan was dead by 1864 - had famous last words, too. "Leave me. Save the flag!"

One thing I do know for certain - Fitzhugh Lee never had three companies of black cavalrymen. Our mysterious Mr Walker appears to have been sampling some of those bales if he saw such.
 

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Wasn't Gen. James Mulligan in Missouri? Might be mixing him up with someone else, but I thought he was at the sure-hard-to-forget-that-name Battle of the Hemp Bales! There's a reference to Brock's Gap - Shenandoah Valley Campaign with Sheridan? Mulligan was dead by 1864 - had famous last words, too. "Leave me. Save the flag!"




 

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Thanks, Obi! Knew that fellow from somewhere.... :p

That article on his career and the news article...the time lines don't connect. Am I missing something? (Besides the year of the news article...)
 

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Thanks, Obi! Knew that fellow from somewhere.... :p

That article on his career and the news article...the time lines don't connect. Am I missing something? (Besides the year of the news article...)
The article is from the January 20, 1864 Daily Register Wheeling, W.Va
The source seems to be
newspaper here https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/...alker&y=0&x=0&dateFilterType=yearRange&page=1
 

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Ah! Thanks - well, Mulligan was still alive in January. Soldier got it from prisoners, hmmm - Forrest was always sending disinformation to the enemy via prisoners!
 

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Ah! Thanks - well, Mulligan was still alive in January. Soldier got it from prisoners, hmmm - Forrest was always sending disinformation to the enemy via prisoners!
I could not find a record in the ORs matching this either.

Future newspaper articles without official records of some sort confirming their content may find themselves in our what-if forum.
 

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I could not find a record in the ORs matching this either.

Future newspaper articles without official records of some sort confirming their content may find themselves in our what-if forum.
special dungeon where faithful posts can be freed if their owners (and childhood friends) provide proper sources?
 

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special dungeon where faithful posts can be freed if their owners (and childhood friends) provide proper sources?
Sounds good.

Anderson is up to several thousand newspaper articles without finding a single previously unknown black confederate.
 

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I've always heard that Robert E Lee got a lot of good information from Northern newspapers.... I'm beginning to think that's another Lee myth! (Either that or we know the real reason he lost...) Sherman was right yet again - the papers get everything wrong and misspell your name, too. They reported he had died of gangrene after his arm was amputated at Shiloh - a minie ball had bounced off his epaulette and a bullet had creased his hand. Scared the stuffings out of his wife, though! According to numerous papers, Forrest was in a gigantic train wreck after the war and broke every bone in his body - well, his train derailed and he was definitely uninjured. A bunch of hale and healthy men remained seated, watching the railroad guys go to work - going to take forever. Forrest had places to be and people to see. He stomped through the train yelling at them to get off their rumps and get out there to lend a hand or he'd throw them out the windows. They believed him! Got that train running in no time.

Verify, verify, verify....
 

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If your interested in black soldiers that fought for white goverment's that oppressed or discriminated against black people then study real History that can be easily verified such has South African Army 32 and 21 Battalion. South West Africa Territorial Force
101 and 701Battalion . The Rhodesian African Rifles , British South African Police Support Unit, Civilian Anti Terrorist Unit.
The Portugese Army had segregated units until 1968 and they saw lots of combat.
32 Battalion fought and killed lots of different Communists including Soviets and East Germans in Angola. Why chase a fantasy?
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