Gen. Robert Toombs: Reconstruction Is “Subjection of the Caucasian to the African and the Scalawag”

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Robert Toombs was an important political and military leader of the Confederacy. A pre-war Whig, he became a Democrat. Here is a report on a speech he gave in support of the 1868 presidential candidacy of Horatio Seymour at a “Ratification Meeting.” These were mass meetings at which local party members “ratified” the nominee of the national parties.

Note: as well as @PatYoung

When Toombs refers to the “Radical party” he means the Republicans.

Edgefield advertiser
Wednesday, Sep 09, 1868
Edgefield, SC
Vol: 33
Page: 4









For the rest:

https://thereconstructionera.com/ge...tion-to-the-negro-and-the-scalawag-sept-1868/
 

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It never happened ... this fantasy of Africans subjugating Caucasians... delusions can be powerful motivators...
 

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It never happened ... this fantasy of Africans subjugating Caucasians... delusions can be powerful motivators...
Yep, it has always been so and will continue be as long as the world turns. Reason, at times is in a very short supply.
 

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don't you think those africans got some sort of a right to be angry?

otoh carrying an ak through the bushes for 15 years isn't exactly the necessary training for a public servant, is it? to me big mistakes were to be expected.

south africa's transition to public rule was a lot better than zimbabwe's but unfortunately there are only so many men of nelson mandela's standing and jacob zuma to this day can't properly read or write. it would have been the better choice if thabo mbeki stayed in office but it is not for us (pink guys) to chose who's president of south africa it is for south africans and south africans recalled mbeki and made zuma president.

as to zimbabwe: i remember everybody thinking then that robert mugabe was the good guy and joshua nkomo the madman. apparently that was a mistake.
All true. My original point was in reply to @O'be Joyful that just as in the case in Southern Africa it wasn't a fantasy for Southern whites to fear retribution if black people were given equality.
In the case of the American South during Reconstruction Southern whites were very quick to reassert themselves as the master race even though they were just defeated by the Union.
Southern whites maintained an iron grip until it was somewhat loosened during the 1960s during the Civil Rights struggle.
Today Southern states can still openly suppress voting rights with acquiesce from the current administration and Supreme Court.
However black people can also legally and openly possess firearms unlike during Reconstruction. So we have an interesting dynamic.
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i moved the southern africa stuff to a new threat. please stay on topic - in both threads
 
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