Compare and Contrast the Confederacy to Nazi Germany

[rittmeister]

The Nazis were using slaves in desperate conditions such has being constantly bombed. It is more then fair to compare the Nazis to the Confederacy. No they weren't exactly alike but they had quite a few similarities.
Kirk's Raiders

that was not something the nazis did. and there wasn't much bombing of concentration camps anyway as long as those camps weren't used for war production (the relatives of those inside begged for bombing the railway lines supplying those camps. the purpose of working those people there was to kill them. if you don't see the difference to american chattel slavery you should see a doctor (i'm not talking an ophthalmologist, btw).

... you got that wrong - it's not fair to the confederates and whitewashes the nazis and as a german i can't have that.

 

[Kirk's Raider's]

that was not something the nazis did. and there wasn't much bombing of concentration camps anyway as long as those camps weren't used for war production (the relatives of those inside begged for bombing the railway lines supplying those camps. the purpose of working those people there was to kill them. if you don't see the difference to american chattel slavery you should see a doctor (i'm not talking an ophthalmologist, btw).

... you got that wrong - it's not fair to the confederates and whitewashes the nazis and as a german i can't have that.

Just saying both sides used slavery. The circumstances were a bit different but both sides used slavery based on preceived perceptions of racial superiority.
Kirk's Raiders

 

[Kirk's Raider's]

that was not something the nazis did. and there wasn't much bombing of concentration camps anyway as long as those camps weren't used for war production (the relatives of those inside begged for bombing the railway lines supplying those camps. the purpose of working those people there was to kill them. if you don't see the difference to american chattel slavery you should see a doctor (i'm not talking an ophthalmologist, btw).

... you got that wrong - it's not fair to the confederates and whitewashes the nazis and as a german i can't have that.

Also the title company of this thread is compare and contrast so if Nazi slavery was different then it should be pointed out. Remember reading comprehension is important.
Kirk's Raiders

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

have never heard of privately run concentration camps.

there was that one Sherif in the US of A who did run his tent jail as an enterprise and told the inmates his dogs been fed on a higher expense than them

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

Also the title company of this thread is compare and contrast so if Nazi slavery was different then it should be pointed out. Remember reading comprehension is important.
Kirk's Raiders

as You know the Rittmeister is closer to the ENGLISH language than You

 

[rittmeister]

Also the title company of this thread is compare and contrast so if Nazi slavery was different then it should be pointed out. Remember reading comprehension is important.
Kirk's Raiders

there was no nazi slavery - what they did was way worse

 

[Kirk's Raider's]

there was no nazi slavery - what they did was way worse

Forcing some o e to work with no pay is slavey.
Leftyhunter

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

Forcing some o e to work with no pay is slavey.
Leftyhunter

nonsense

Cities did that again and again when under siege

Slavery is in need of the possibility to sell and buy people.

Forcing people to work without pay is not slavery, if it was well how about those underpayed in the US? Part time slaves? 20 hours they are workers and the other 20 they are slaves?

 

[rittmeister]

Forcing some o e to work with no pay is slavey.
Leftyhunter

nonsense - a slaver sees a slave as commodity, sth of value. the nazis wanted to make a buck until those people were dead anyway.

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

& the main goal was to be dead

 

[jgoodguy]

nonsense - a slaver sees a slave as commodity, sth of value. the nazis wanted to make a buck until those people were dead anyway.

& the main goal was to be dead

Slavery is any system in which principles of property law are applied to people, allowing individuals to own, buy and sell other individuals, as a de jure form of property. An enslaved person is unable to withdraw unilaterally from such an arrangement and works without remuneration.

Slavery - Wikipedia

 

[rittmeister]

Slavery is any system in which principles of property law are applied to people, allowing individuals to own, buy and sell other individuals, as a de jure form of property. An enslaved person is unable to withdraw unilaterally from such an arrangement and works without remuneration.
Slavery - Wikipedia

exactly

 

[Kirk's Raider's]

nonsense

Cities did that again and again when under siege

Slavery is in need of the possibility to sell and buy people.

Forcing people to work without pay is not slavery, if it was well how about those underpayed in the US? Part time slaves? 20 hours they are workers and the other 20 they are slaves?

Being forced to do Civic work vs being forced to work for the rest of ones life is hardly the same. .
Kirks Raiders

 

[5fish]

that was kinda different in mittelbau dora.

You can not compare the way Germany handle their Nazi past with the way the South handled its traitorous confederate past.
WE(America) and the rest of Europe was going to hold Germany accountable for their actions during the civil war. The South has never been held accountable so they (South) came up with a palatable reasons for slavery and treason, "Lost Cause".

Look the Germany after WW one were not held accountable directly. There was no big brother occupying the fatherland holding them accountable and they to came with palatable reason why they lost the war, stab-in-the-back-myth( Dolchstoßlegende ).

Look at us after Vietnam we(America) came up with palatable reasons why we lost the war BY THE 1980'S. It was just like Germany after WWone, it follow many of the same reasoning too...

If German had not been held to account for it action in WWtwo, it would have come up with palatable reasons why it lost... There would have been no soul searching over their Nazi past...

 

[rittmeister]

You can not compare the way Germany handle their Nazi past with the way the South handled its traitorous confederate past.
WE(America) and the rest of Europe was going to hold Germany accountable for their actions during the civil war. The South has never been held accountable so they (South) came up with a palatable reasons for slavery and treason, "Lost Cause".

Look the Germany after WW one were not held accountable directly. There was no big brother occupying the fatherland holding them accountable and they to came with palatable reason why they lost the war, stab-in-the-back-myth( Dolchstoßlegende ).

Look at us after Vietnam we(America) came up with palatable reasons why we lost the war BY THE 1980'S. It was just like Germany after WWone, it follow many of the same reasoning too...

If German had not been held to account for it action in WWtwo, it would have come up with palatable reasons why it lost... There would have been no soul searching over their Nazi past...

getting your country wrecked kinda helps

 

[Joshism]

Some very talented officers, most of whom were honorable, Christian men of good character - except they supported an immoral system.
Creative wonder weapons that couldn't be produced in numbers to make a difference.
Smothered by a naval blockade. Reliant on blockade runners for critical items.
Vastly outnumbered by their opponents.
Could not match their opponents' logistics and manufacturing.
Inadequate leadership from their head of state.

Am I describing Germany in WW2, or the CSA?