Climate Change and Game Theory...

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The 2021 United Nations Climate Change Conference, also known as COP26, is the 26th United Nations Climate Change conference. It is being held in Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom....

I know the conference is good because people get together and hopefully something good comes from it but this one is a joke. We have lost the fight against climate change the earth going to warmer past 2.5 centigrade by century end. The Greenland ice sheet will have melted away and no one has mention what the state of the Antarctica ice sheet will be at century end. If we get to net zero or carbon neutral by century end the world will have three to five hundred years of a dystopian world only few can imagine. We Boomers have hose our grand children and many generation that come after too. We Boomers knew in 1970's climate change was coming even had accurate estimates that are coming true today and did nothing for profits and denied its existence to the world.

Is there hope in Game Theory can save us?


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Game theory is the mathematical study of conflict and cooperation between actors or groups: animals, people, businesses, countries or even computer algorithms. It became a formal topic of study in the 1950s and has since made significant impact on economics, political science and evolutionary biology and ecology.

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The fundamentals of the climate change are simple: the Earth’s finite capacity to absorb additional CO2 produced by burning fossil fuels, and the self-centred motivations of governments, businesses, and people which leads them to try and use as much of this capacity as possible. Simply put, more CO2 produces more wealth. Consequently, what is best for the individual is not best for the group. Somehow these two incentives need to align. One way would be for all 197 nations to cooperate in working out how to allocate carbon emissions. Presumably they would then move onto world peace.

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In game theory speak, man-made climate change can be cast as an iterated game over a common-pool resource that no one owns and everyone has access to. For example, fish in a fishery, trees in a wood, or pasture land grazed by cattle. They regenerate and if sustainably managed, can provide valuable resources for many. Take too much however, and they can collapse.

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Such collapses cause the ‘tragedy of the commons’, a concept that was popularised by Garret Harding’s 1968 article, in which we find a prescient summary of climate change “… the rational man finds that his share of the cost of the waste he discharges into the commons is less than the cost of purifying his wastes before releasing them”. Everyone would benefit if everyone played ball and cleaned up their mess. But that takes resources and money so the temptation to pollute is often too strong.

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It is possible to avoid a tragedy of the commons if the incentives are setup right – reward cooperation, and limit the benefits of temptation to free ride on others’ contributions. Such temptations can be reduced by punishing free riders. But how can you administer such rules within the largely lawless landscape of international relations? There is no single government that can demand inspections and impose fines. Climate change seems to require a game to facilitate cooperation, but there is nothing to stop any individual nation picking up the board and scattering all the pieces if things aren’t going their way.

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One approach is a bootstrapping process. Thinking global while acting local recognises that local interactions are important. It has been shown that cooperation can be enhanced if people repeatedly play the same game with the same set of people. When they do, systems of reciprocity and trust can evolve. This will also allow effective punishment of defection. People trying to free ride either get penalised or thrown out of the group. A classic example of the emergence of such cooperation is the live-and-let-live system that operated in the British and German trenches during the first world war. This involved a number of behaviours that sought to minimise casualties on the opposing side. Soldiers would deliberately shoot high to miss the enemy, or shell the same spot with artillery at the same time of day.

In essence, this is a simple and robust strategy. Along with tit-for-tat. Play nice with someone and they return the favour. Upset or hurt them and expect consequences. Social scientist Robert Axelrod discovered tit-for-tat as an effective strategy in repeated social games in the 1980s. It’s not the best strategy for all interactions, but it’s robust and lends itself to modification.

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If cooperation can emerge in the midst of the horrors of war, then surely we can find the right incentives to combat climate change. Unfortunately, there appears to be a crucial difference. What drove cooperation in the trenches was a realisation that while the uniforms may differ, all the soldiers were in it together. We are not all in this together with respect to climate change. The impacts on the climate and vulnerabilities to climate change vary considerably.

The only solution seems for there to be a big die off of life( mainly human) that will start the reverse of climate change...
 

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China's not going to do anything about CO2 emissions. Yes, they'll sign any piece of paper ("Paris Accords"), give the subject some lip service, but in the long run - it will amount to nothing.


Go get'em Gertie!
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China's not going to do anything about CO2 emissions. Yes, they'll sign any piece of paper ("Paris Accords"), give the subject some lip service, but in the long run - it will amount to nothing.


Go get'em Gertie!
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China's not going to do anything about CO2 emissions. Yes, they'll sign any piece of paper ("Paris Accords"), give the subject some lip service, but in the long run - it will amount to nothing.
Your attitude is why our nation and the world will burn. China leads the world in green tech. They have more Tesla like companies than we do.

You are saying let the world burn leave a dystopia for your grand kids future generations because you want cheap energy. So @Tom , what do you want to do about climate change...
 

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There was a Radio show that fest up and explain the time for mediation of Climate has past and it time to plan for adaptation to the new world we are creating with our CO2 emission...

Our world Leaders are rallying the world acting as it we need a D-Day to save the world from Climate change but the truth is that moment has past and now the historic moment is more like Dunkirk... It time for adaptive measures so we all can live in this new world that is coming...

Hamburg is going under... tidal cities like this are in trouble...

 

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Here is and Island nation adding sand to their Island to make it higher.... to aviod climate change but it only gives them maybe a 100 years extra time... I ask where is the money coming from...


While the Maldives government has explored plans to purchase land on higher ground in other countries as an insurance policy against sea level rise, planners are also working to enhance the resilience of the country’s current islands. One example is Hulhumalé, a newly constructed artificial island northeast of the capital, Malé.

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The new island, built by pumping sand from the seafloor onto a submerged coral platform, rises about 2 meters above sea level, about twice as high as Malé. The extra height could make the island a refuge for Maldivians who are eventually driven off lower-lying islands due to rising seas. It could also prove to be an option for evacuations during future typhoons and storm surges.


They are trying this idea a floating city... virtual for now...


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“The Maldives Floating City does not require any land reclamation, therefore has a minimal impact on the coral reefs,” says Mohamed Nasheed, former president of the Maldives, speaker of parliament and Climate Vulnerable Forum Ambassador for Ambition.
 

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Kleinstaaterei ... Is why the world is going to burn... To many nations with too many self-interest for the world to come to together to fight an enemy...
 

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Kleinstaaterei ... Is why the world is going to burn... To many nations with too many self-interest for the world to come to together to fight an enemy...
you sure of that?

we invented the word and ended our kleinstaaterei in 1871 - the world kinda burned 1914-18 and 1939-45. none of our kleinstaaten could have been involved the way we actually were having ended our kleinstaaterei in 1871
 

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Our World Wars brought about the end of colonialism and the fragmentation of the world. It was the rise of Kleinstaaterei period of the world...

Years back a college professor hand a climate game with his class and never once he could get a class to agree to fight the climate change. The self interest always won out even as players died off due to climate change in the game... Everyone knew if the work together is the only way to win...







 

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Europe understand the small states issue and they created the EU... The world has to understand the small state issue and create a new vision or we are doomed...

In the next hundred years if you want to survive you need to get to a wealthy nation. The U.S., China, E.U., Japan, and than the second tear nations like Brazil, Turkey, Korea, Russia, India, Canada...
 

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Adaptation – adapting to life in a changing climate – involves adjusting to actual or expected future climate. The goal is to reduce our vulnerability to the harmful effects of climate change (like sea-level encroachment, more intense extreme weather events or food insecurity).


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Adaptation refers to adjustments in ecological, social, or economic systems in response to actual or expected climatic stimuli and their effects or impacts. It refers to changes in processes, practices, and structures to moderate potential damages or to benefit from opportunities associated with climate change. In simple terms, countries and communities need to develop adaptation solution and implement action to respond to the impacts of climate change that are already happening, as well as prepare for future impacts.
 

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Your attitude is why our nation and the world will burn. China leads the world in green tech. They have more Tesla like companies than we do.
You're living in a dream world - China ain't gonna do squat about CO2 emissions...
 

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