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Urban centers subsidize suburbia and here is the math and the math works anywhere... there are some great maps... @jgoodguy , @O' Be Joyful , @rittmeister , @Wehrkraftzersetzer
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The conservative article points out it was New Deal policies gave us suburbia...
www.theamericanconservative.com
What image springs to mind when you picture “federally subsidized housing”? Most people imagine a low-income public housing tower, a homeless shelter, or a shoddy apartment building.
Nope—suburban homeowners are the single biggest recipient of housing subsidies. As a result, suburbs dominate housing in the United States. For decades, federal finance regulations incentivized single-family homes through three key mechanisms:
How We Subsidize Suburbia
Federal intervention—not the free market—made sprawl the way we live today.
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What image springs to mind when you picture “federally subsidized housing”? Most people imagine a low-income public housing tower, a homeless shelter, or a shoddy apartment building.
Nope—suburban homeowners are the single biggest recipient of housing subsidies. As a result, suburbs dominate housing in the United States. For decades, federal finance regulations incentivized single-family homes through three key mechanisms:
- Insurance
- National mortgage markets
- New standards for debt structuring
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It is an injustice for the Government to pick suburbia over the cities...
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How so? As a new report illustrates, a variety of federal policies that go by other names are actually public investments in housing and other development. The report, “Federal involvement in real estate: A call for examination,” by the Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit Smart Growth America, adds it all up and finds approximately $450 billion each year in subsidies.
These public dollars, the report argues, collectively create an incentive for suburban sprawl and redistribute income from the poor to the rich. So much for the “war on suburbia.”
Starving the cities to feed the suburbs
A new report finds that of the $450 billion the federal government spends on real estate each year, the lion’s share subsidizes suburban growth -- at the expense of both cities and the planet.
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How so? As a new report illustrates, a variety of federal policies that go by other names are actually public investments in housing and other development. The report, “Federal involvement in real estate: A call for examination,” by the Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit Smart Growth America, adds it all up and finds approximately $450 billion each year in subsidies.
These public dollars, the report argues, collectively create an incentive for suburban sprawl and redistribute income from the poor to the rich. So much for the “war on suburbia.”
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they are also 'subsidizing' big oil with thatIt is an injustice for the Government to pick suburbia over the cities...
Starving the cities to feed the suburbs
A new report finds that of the $450 billion the federal government spends on real estate each year, the lion’s share subsidizes suburban growth -- at the expense of both cities and the planet.
How so? As a new report illustrates, a variety of federal policies that go by other names are actually public investments in housing and other development. The report, “Federal involvement in real estate: A call for examination,” by the Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit Smart Growth America, adds it all up and finds approximately $450 billion each year in subsidies.
These public dollars, the report argues, collectively create an incentive for suburban sprawl and redistribute income from the poor to the rich. So much for the “war on suburbia.”
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The average American thinks suburbia subsidizes the inter-city and as we know that wise tale needs to be dispelled...
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How much of your city in a parking lot this link and article has a map and tells you the percentages of it is parking lots. It says 33 percent of Orlando is a parking lot downtown but trust me there is not much parking for the public down there... It a good article, city planners by law are mandated so many parking spot per business... Like in California many parking lots stay empty most of the day...
www.strongtowns.org
How Much of Your City Is Parking Lots?
A new tool from the Parking Reform Network illustrates just how much space in our cities is being wasted on car storage.
www.strongtowns.org
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because modern (especially american) cities are for cars and not peopleHow much of your city in a parking lot this link and article has a map and tells you the percentages of it is parking lots. It says 33 percent of Orlando is a parking lot downtown but trust me there is not much parking for the public down there... It a good article, city planners by law are mandated so many parking spot per business... Like in California many parking lots stay empty most of the day...
How Much of Your City Is Parking Lots?
A new tool from the Parking Reform Network illustrates just how much space in our cities is being wasted on car storage.
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@O' Be Joyful , your city's downtown is 21 percent parking lot...
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he ain't living in cincy any longer - he's hiding in a rural/redneck part of ohio now
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Yes they tore down some great historic buildings downtown. btw you can call me obi, that's my nickname.
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yes, he can but pageing wouldn't work with @obi
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i fixed it schwol.
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Berlin is eliminating parking spots... @rittmeister where will you park your car...
For at least three months beginning this coming summer, a south Berlin neighborhood will embark on a novel experiment: eliminating parking spaces.
The idea behind the project is to devote the space usually reserved for cars to other uses like growing plants or providing recreation.
“The idea we are pursuing is whether public spaces can be experienced and used in more efficient ways than keeping them reserved for parked cars,” Green council member for Berlin’s Kreuzberg district Annika Gerold, who heads transport affairs, said, as The Guardian reported.
For at least three months beginning this coming summer, a south Berlin neighborhood will embark on a novel experiment: eliminating parking spaces.
The idea behind the project is to devote the space usually reserved for cars to other uses like growing plants or providing recreation.
“The idea we are pursuing is whether public spaces can be experienced and used in more efficient ways than keeping them reserved for parked cars,” Green council member for Berlin’s Kreuzberg district Annika Gerold, who heads transport affairs, said, as The Guardian reported.
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i don't have a car
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Here is another story of looking at it Parking Lots...
Parking eats up an incredible amount of space and costs America’s cities an extraordinary amount of money. That’s the main takeaway of a new study that looks in detail at parking in five U.S. cities: New York, Philadelphia, Seattle, Des Moines, and Jackson, Wyoming.
Parking eats up an incredible amount of space and costs America’s cities an extraordinary amount of money. That’s the main takeaway of a new study that looks in detail at parking in five U.S. cities: New York, Philadelphia, Seattle, Des Moines, and Jackson, Wyoming.
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Then Berlin is being mean to car users... My youngest son works for a company that builds roads and highways...