Captured US Infantry Regt flag from War of 1812

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OMG... They lost their colors, again at the battle of Cowpens in SC.

When it was decided that the Royal Fusiliers would be rebuilt rather than drafted in 1777, Lord Robert Bertie ordered a new set of regimental colours. If the colours were not in the colonies by the time of the assaults on forts Montgomery and Clinton, they were most likely in the hands of the regiment by the time it was sent to Philadelphia in late November of 1777.

Early in January of 1781, the fit men of the Royal Fusiliers were sent from Wynnsboro, SC to Ninety Six, along with their colours in the baggage wagons. Before they had gotten far, the detachment was handed over to the command of Lt. Colonel Banaster Tarleton. When his force was captured at Cowpens on January 17th, the colours of the 7th Regiment fell into the hands of the Rebels a second time. Neither flag survives today.
 

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OMG... They lost their colors, again at the battle of Cowpens in SC.

When it was decided that the Royal Fusiliers would be rebuilt rather than drafted in 1777, Lord Robert Bertie ordered a new set of regimental colours. If the colours were not in the colonies by the time of the assaults on forts Montgomery and Clinton, they were most likely in the hands of the regiment by the time it was sent to Philadelphia in late November of 1777.

Early in January of 1781, the fit men of the Royal Fusiliers were sent from Wynnsboro, SC to Ninety Six, along with their colours in the baggage wagons. Before they had gotten far, the detachment was handed over to the command of Lt. Colonel Banaster Tarleton. When his force was captured at Cowpens on January 17th, the colours of the 7th Regiment fell into the hands of the Rebels a second time. Neither flag survives today.
they were from london - what do yo expect from a bunch of bankers pressed into service

... and for christ's sake they're english - their colours contain a U
 

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Here is an American regiment that lost its colors...



The 2nd New Hampshire Regiment was formed in early May 1775, as the second of three Continental Army regiments raised by the state of New Hampshire during the American Revolutionary War. Its first commander was Colonel Enoch Poor, with Joseph Cilley as major. Many of the men who served in the unit hailed from southeastern New Hampshire and western Maine (then part of Massachusetts).

After Enoch Poor was promoted to Brigadier, Nathan Hale was commissioned colonel of the 2nd New Hampshire Regiment in April 1777.

Flags or colors which belonged to the 2nd NH were captured at Fort Anne in July 1777 during the retreat from Fort Ticonderoga. After more than a century, they were returned from Britain, and are on display today at the Tuck Library of the New Hampshire Historical Society in Concord. They are among the only American battle flags from the Revolutionary War known to exist. The colors containing the motto "The Glory Not the Prey" are marked "2nd NH Regt", while the other colors captured at the time, the linked 13 rings, were likely a type of national color. Two other flags captured by the British at Skenesboro were also noted and they had similar designs, especially another with the 13 linked rings. While their colors were lost, the 2nd New Hampshire fought bravely in the autumn of 1777, where they were heavily engaged with British forces at Saratoga, leading to the surrender of General John Burgoyne's army
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Here I have this recollection of event...


Colors of the 2nd New Hampshire
The 2nd was one of two New Hampshire regiments that reported to Washington's camp in Cambridge at the beginning of the Revolutionary War in 1776. Henry Dearborn led the men from New Hampshire and troops under John Sullivan held the "rail fence" on one of the flanks at the Battle of Bunker Hill. In the spring of 1776, the Second saw action at Fort Ticonderoga, Mount Independence, Bennington, and wintered at Valley Forge. Men from New Hampshire would take part in nearly every battle fought in New England, including the turning point of the American Revolution at Saratoga.

The 2nd New Hampshire's first leader was Colonel Enoch Poor, but by the time of the Battle of Hubbardstown (Hubbardton), where these two flags may have been captured by the British 9th Foot, it was commanded by Colonel Nathan Hale. The British dispatches of the day suggest that the flags were taken at Fort Anne (or at Hubbardstown, on the previous day), quite some distance from the battle, and probably the supply base of the Americans.
 
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I found another regimental colors lost and returned... sold off...


Colors of the 2nd Regiment Continental Light Dragoons
The 2nd Continental Light Dragoons, also known as Sheldon's Horse, was commissioned by the Continental Congress in December of 1776 under the command of Colonel Elisha Sheldon. From March 1777 until January 1781 the regiment consisted of six troops drawn mostly from Connecticut, but with men from Massachusetts , New Jersey, and New York. Although parts of the regiment would see action at the Battle of Brandywine, Battle of Saratoga, Battle of Germantown, and the Battle of Yorktown, the unit never served as a whole, rather the unit was assigned by Washington in various support and special assignments. For example, at the Battle of Saratoga a portion of the regiment not only fought as the sole Continental cavalry, but was assigned to escort Burgoyne to Boston after the British surrender. Elements of the unit comprised Washington's personal bodyguard, and Sheldon's Horse performed the first cavalry charge on American soil. The regiment also provided messengers for Washington between his headquarters and the rest of the colonial forces. At Yorktown, twenty Sheldon's Horse were detailed to accompany Washington and Rochambeau to the York peninsula, and Sheldon's troopers are depicted in the painting of Cornwallis' surrender by John Trumbull.

These colors were taken by British forces under Banastre Tarleton at the Battle of Pound Ridge, New York in July 1779. In June of 2006, the flag was returned and auctioned at Sotheby's in New York City.


Here the battle of Pound Ridge, the end of it... the regiment had more than 6 troops...


By that time Maj. Lockwood’s militia had reformed after their brief retreat, and Tarleton reported, “The Militia assembled again on Eminences and in Swamps, and before we quitted the Ground on which the first Charge was made they fired at Great Distances. . . . . the rest hovered almost out of Sight.”[10] The scattered American shots probably only knocked one dragoon from his saddle. But the firing so angered Tarleton that he ordered his men to burn Maj. Lockwood’s house, presumably because he was the militia commander. Surgeons of both sides were treating the wounded in the Lockwood house and two British doctors protested the order. Tarleton ordered the wounded moved and the house searched. His men found all of the baggage and equipment for the Second Light Dragoons, including the regimental colors and Benjamin Tallmadge’s saddle bags. They kept the colors and Tallmadge’s bags as war trophies and then set fire to the house, burning it to the ground along with most of the American equipment. British troops also torched the Pound Ridge meeting house and were preparing to burn the home of Joseph Lockwood, Ebenezer’s brother, until militia fire drove them off.
 

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let me guess: operation dynamo is a fake, too as it was an orderly retreat with just one smle and two battle bowlers left behind?
Retreat!? Retreat sir!? We advanced 21 miles westwards to take up new positions from which to launch an attack. The English Channel was in the way and was merely a small hindrance to our strategic withdrawal so a couple of small boat owners from Dover popped over to France to ferry the Tommies across. :cool:
 

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Retreat!? Retreat sir!? We advanced 21 miles westwards to take up new positions from which to launch an attack. The English Channel was in the way and was merely a small hindrance to our strategic withdrawal so a couple of small boat owners from Dover popped over to France to ferry the Tommies across. :cool:
what the fuck is it, sir?
 
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