Canadian Slavery....

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lets be honest - why did they bann you over there? for being obnoxious?...i'm willing to say why i was banned ...
Fair enough. I was banned because of my push-back, in every instance, to a Lost Cause or a Lost Cause Lite ("play-Confederate") promotion. It took about two years or so, but by that time the LC proponents over there had finally stacked the staff enough to manipulate the forum discipline rules to disengage my membership despite my stellar public response record there, well over 90 percent likes to my posts.

Today, the site today is pretty much a waning Lost Cause Lite promotion site, and I'm proud to have played a small part in that. I can only hope that the mountain of really good CW material and honest posters that habituated the site there will continue to drift over here -- where as yet the staff has no agenda that I can see.
 
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You are very persistent in demanding of me something I have already done. Maybe you should stop bitching at me and post something yourself about Canadian slavery - see if you can do it precisely and concisely.
So, nothing more on Canadian slavery, ok.

You've posted a lot of cool stuff elsewhere in the meantime so it's all good. Perhaps at times you could go into more discourse with your posts, an equally good approach. The precisely and concisely thing, besides getting a bit old, tends to obviate further discussion. It might help also not to ridicule literally any response that seems to run counter to whatever view you had locked onto years ago.
 
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So, nothing more on Canadian slavery, ok.

You've posted a lot of cool stuff elsewhere in the meantime so it's all good.
Obviously you have nothing to post on any subject except my posting proclivities.
 

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Obviously you have nothing to post on any subject except my posting proclivities.
Or, certainly much more than that, if you missed it:
... An important take-away from the history of North American slavery -- as practiced by Euros in all parts of the continent including Canada -- is that only one segment of the continent still retained and promoted the legal practice of slavery by the mid-19th century, and only that one segment practiced the most heinous form of slavery -- systematic chattel slavery -- including self-propagation (meaning many slaves and their ancestors, if not most, have white bloodlines). Also it was only that one segment that practiced slavery at such an immense scale, their very economy completely reliant on slave labor to the exclusion of industry as adopted by the Northern sections.

That particular segment of course is the Slave South in the U.S., and thereby the Confederacy.

It is that unique history of that section that defies the Lost Cause / Lost Cause Lite / Confederate apologist promotion (myth) that slavery in the Southern U.S. was no worse than slavery as practiced anywhere else on the continent, that slavery was endemic in the Northern states from the very founding of the U.S. (and here we find even in colonial Canada). If that idea can be sold, it enables the selling of the idea that the Civil War wasn't about slavery because slavery had been practiced everywhere on the continent including the Northern U.S (and Canada).

The key phrase though, as we all know, is the phrase "had been practiced," a phrase that Lost Cause / Lost Cause Lite / Confederate apologists avoid using because it blows their gig. In the same way they will never on their own bring up the immense of difference in the scale of slavery as practiced in the Southern U.S. as compared to anywhere else on the Continent.*



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(* keeping in mind we're only comparing North American slavery, not Middle or south American slavery. It's true enough that the scale of slavery in South America was quite comparable to that of slavery in the Southern U.S., But that's for another thread).
 
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Or, certainly much more than that, if you missed it:
That post is more than a week old. In the meantime you have been bitching about me pretty much continuously. Your obsession with me is beginning to creep me out a little.
 

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That post is more than a week old...
Meaning what? Posts more than a few days old are no longer viable?

I'm gonna step out on a limb here and say we might better focus on, say, Joshism's CW engineering thread* at this point. We've both spent careers, I think, at engineering firms and perhaps have better contributions to make in a thread like that.
 
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Meaning what? Posts more than a few days old are no longer viable?
Meaning that in the time since that was posted you have told several people that they should post something on topic while you just whined about me instead of putting your keyboard to use posting on topic yourself.
 

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Meaning that in the time since that was posted you have told several people that they should post something on topic..
Primarily you, yes? (it's not like we can't review the amount of time spent on petty rebukes instead of contributing to the OP). Why have I posted as many petty rebukes? -- it's been necessary to respond against the false, accusatory or incredibly picayune proclamations.

I've tried three times to redirect back to the topic in this thread, you not until just now. But I'll take it.

So again, perhaps we each have something more to contribute to literally any other thread than this one.
 

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Primarily you, yes? (it's not like we can't review the amount of time spent on petty rebukes instead of contributing to the OP). Why have I posted as many petty rebukes? -- it's been necessary to respond against the false, accusatory or incredibly picayune proclamations.

I've tried three times to redirect back to the topic in this thread, you not until just now. But I'll take it.

So again, perhaps we each have something more to contribute to literally any other thread than this one.
Picayune? No, incredibly picayune! I'm not aware that there are degrees of picayuneness.
 

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I'm not aware that there are degrees of picayuneness.
Of course there are degrees of picayuneness. It seems to be ingrained into the W. Va. "popcorn empire."

I had the temerity to to push back and agree w/ @5fish & @MattL in what I a coupla' days later understood was a trap thread asking for opinions. We were all banned the next day.

I prefer carmel covered popcorn btw, but I never bought any from them.
 

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Picayune? No, incredibly picayune! I'm not aware that there are degrees of picayuneness.
Uh ...go ahead and be aware of it then. Relevance?

On another tack, I'd like to know what you think of my post over in Joshism's CW engineering thread
 
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Of course there are degrees of picayuneness...I had the temerity to to push back and agree w/ [5fish] & [MattL] in what I a coupla' days later understood was a trap thread asking for opinions. We were all banned the next day...
Let me guess, was it a discussion involving slavery or black Confederates -- or something like 2-bander rifles issued in the CW?
 

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Let me guess, was it a discussion involving slavery or black Confederates -- or something like 2-bander rifles issued in the CW?
It has been over a year ago, but as I recall it was a thread started my mike/ami asking about "recent" bannings and what folks thought about rule changes and the expression of opinion.

fish or matt may have a better recollection. But may I suggest that a Mod split this off into a different thread?

The title I recommend, "The Popcorn Empire Strikes Back."
 

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Forum Bashing needs to be PM
 

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There is no glory in that

There WAS NO Glory in what was done, and in that we agree. It was fear and insecurity.

It was a bunch of woosie moves...but here we is. And I'm over it now.

Truth shall win, well at least here.
 
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