Beer, Germans and Civil War...

[rittmeister]

My German friends bad news @rittmeister , @Wehrkraftzersetzer , @Daring Drea

What the Heck Is an Oktoberfest Beer?

Historically, the style of beer served at the official Oktoberfest festival in Munich, Germany, has changed over the years. But what kind of beer is served there now, and how does it compare to the brews you'll find in your local grocery store? Here's a breakdown of how to understand the variety...

www.foodandwine.com

why? that information is as relevant as calling miller light beer - they had the yeast and used it for alcoholic drinks which had zilch to do with lager. interesting information but the headline is just gaga.

 

[O' Be Joyful]

My German friends bad news @rittmeister , @Wehrkraftzersetzer , @Daring Drea

What the Heck Is an Oktoberfest Beer?

Historically, the style of beer served at the official Oktoberfest festival in Munich, Germany, has changed over the years. But what kind of beer is served there now, and how does it compare to the brews you'll find in your local grocery store? Here's a breakdown of how to understand the variety...

www.foodandwine.com

In truth, it goes back to the Egyptians.

Beer in Ancient Egypt | Ancient Egypt Online

ancientegyptonline.co.uk

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

My German friends bad news @rittmeister , @Wehrkraftzersetzer , @Daring Drea

What the Heck Is an Oktoberfest Beer?

Historically, the style of beer served at the official Oktoberfest festival in Munich, Germany, has changed over the years. But what kind of beer is served there now, and how does it compare to the brews you'll find in your local grocery store? Here's a breakdown of how to understand the variety...

www.foodandwine.com

somebody had to much?

Lager surly is a SouthAmerican word

 

[O' Be Joyful]

somebody had to much?

Lager surly is a SouthAmerican word

Actually lager--germanic-- roughly translates to a cellar/cavern slowly brewed bier, und the yeast, which you surely know.

What is the difference between a lager and an ale?

To a brewer, the difference is more fundamental than how the beer looks, smells, and tastes.

www.popsci.com

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

better translate to storage, so it was a deep cellar for the reason of cooling

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

better translate to storage, so it was a deep cellar for the reason of cooling

the prime translation is storage, if it is a storage for humans it turns to camp as in Konzentrationslager , Flüchzlingslager or with people on the move.

Naschtlager (night storage for humans) means simply Bett
Lotterlager / Lotterbett means bed of a sexually loose person (normally a woman, maybe a whore)

 

[O' Be Joyful]

better translate to storage, so it was a deep cellar for the reason of cooling

No Shit?!!

Go Inside the 100-Year-Old Beer Tunnels Hidden Under Cincinnati

Thirty feet underneath the streets of Cincinnati, Ohio, an extensive tunnel range exists. It was once used for beer, then was lost, and now is found.

vinepair.com

They kept turnip heads like you,
down there too.

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

No Shit?!!

Go Inside the 100-Year-Old Beer Tunnels Hidden Under Cincinnati

Thirty feet underneath the streets of Cincinnati, Ohio, an extensive tunnel range exists. It was once used for beer, then was lost, and now is found.

vinepair.com

They kept turnip heads like you,
down there too.

listen city-boy You don't store (to store = lagern) hay in a a cellar hammered into the rock and You don't store beer in an uncooled barn

 

[O' Be Joyful]

listen city-boy You don't store (to store = lagern) hay in a a cellar hammered into the rock and You don't store beer in an uncooled barn

You are a zwe-idiot and obviously live in an unventalated hay-loft. Anyone with a lick of sense knows that cellars are underground where temps remain mostly constant.

If you stack "wet" hay in a loft it can spontaneously combust. I have seen barns that have burnt up from that f-up and kicked a few smoldering bales out a few times.

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

If you stack "wet" hay in a loft it can spontaneously combust.

tell something new

 

[5fish]

I think our German friends should be proud that James Bond 007 pistol is a German made pistol... @rittmeister , @Wehrkraftzersetzer , @Daring Drea

Walther PPK

The Walther PPK was the weapon of choice for James Bond from the films Dr. No to Tomorrow Never Dies (except Moonraker and Octopussy) and again in Quantum of Solace and SkyFall. The gun is also mentioned in the Ian Fleming novels from Dr. No to The Man with the Golden Gun. It's the only gun /...

www.jamesbondlifestyle.com

snip... He turns in his Italian pistol for German one...

It all starts in Ian Fleming's novel Dr. No, when M, the head of MI6, orders Bond to turn in his Beretta pistol and replaces it with a 'superior' gun, the Walther PPK. Read the story of how the PPK became Bond's weapon of choice.

I ask a question Bond drove British cars why not British Pistols... like...

Webley & Scott - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Webley Revolver - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[5fish]

Beer tunnels and vaults could be common... Richmond, VA...

The Hidden Chimbarazo Beer Vaults in Richmond

This undated plan from the collections of the Library of Virginia shows the extensive rooms of the beer vaults and the octagon in pencil w...

theshockoeexaminer.blogspot.com

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

Beer tunnels and vaults could be common... Richmond, VA...

The Hidden Chimbarazo Beer Vaults in Richmond

This undated plan from the collections of the Library of Virginia shows the extensive rooms of the beer vaults and the octagon in pencil w...

theshockoeexaminer.blogspot.com

if the guy who run the brewery was German than there was at lest one vault or tunnel

 

[5fish]

Our German friend has been keeping information about Ground hog's day... It was the German immigrants who bought us this tradition... @rittmeister , @Wehrkraftzersetzer ... Candlemas...

https://explorepahistory.com/hmarker.php?markerId=1-A-3E0

Associating the day with the approach of spring, Germans and others viewed the weather-and the awakening of hibernating animals-as predictors of seasonal change. Over time, candles replaced bonfires, the day became known as Candlemas, and the belief became fixed in Church rituals and in more secular proverbs and rhymes, such as "If Candlemas brings clouds and rain, go winter and not come again." In Germany, hibernating animals-bears, badgers, hedgehogs, and other creatures that imitated the seeming death of plants in wintertime and their rebirth in spring-became associated with the weather predictions of Candlemas, which became known as "Grundsau Tag."

The tradition then migrated across the Atlantic Ocean with rural Germans who came to Pennsylvania and there was reinvented through an association with another animal that burrowed and hibernated in winter: the groundhog, or "woodchuck," a name derived from the Delaware Indian word "wojak." This local tradition might have lived quietly on-or faded away-had it not been for the civic boosterism of the men of the Elks Lodge of Punxsutawney, an isolated community about eighty miles from Pittsburgh.

At the day of Candlemass
There should be cold in the air,
And snow on the grass.
But if the sun should entice
The bear from his den,
He turns around and goes in again.

 

[diane]

You should try the history of breweries in California! Most of them were opened in the 1850s, during the Gold Rush, and more opened in the 1860s with patriotic names like Union Brewery, American Brewery, etc. Almost all of them were owned and operated by folks with German names - Glueck, Frauenholtz, Pilig, Schuster, Kroenig, Hoelscher, Schuster, Scherrer, and our own local brewers - Charles Kappler, John Iunker, Joe Steinacher. Almost all of them went out of business when Prohibition came in.

Anchor Steam was one of the signature lager beers of San Francisco. They used the Pacific Ocean for a cooling system, open air vats on the tops of roofs as it was always cool to quite chilly from the ocean. It also added a peculiar yeast to the beer and gave it a very distinctive tang.

And, during the Civil War, there was going to be a 'battle' between Confederate sympathizers and Union sympathizers in Solano, Ca that was settled when everybody decided to go have a nice beer at the Solano Brewery, which also used the Bay Area steam method, the beer was known as Solano Steam Beer. It was founded by Charles Widenmann and Peter Rothenbusch.

 

[5fish]

I looked up Solano Beer company in Vallejo, CA. and I was assigned to Mare Island naval base which is in or near Vallejo. I looked up steaming beer and it originated a Baravian. Historically steam beer came from Bavaria, Germany, and is associated with San Francisco and the West Coast of the United States.[1] It was an improvised process, originating out of necessity,[1] and was considered a cheap, low-quality beer, as shown by references to it in literature of the 1890s and 1900s.--wiki

A look back at Solano Brewery and Vallejo's long tradition of brewing

150 years before Mare Island Brewing Company got its start and not long into the island's life as a bustling shipyard, there was another brewery best...

www.pediment.com

The company has been reconstituted or recreated in recent years...

https://solanobrew.com/

Steam beer - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[diane]

I looked up Solano Beer company in Vallejo, CA. and I was assigned to Mare Island naval base which is in or near Vallejo. I looked up steaming beer and it originated a Baravian. Historically steam beer came from Bavaria, Germany, and is associated with San Francisco and the West Coast of the United States.[1] It was an improvised process, originating out of necessity,[1] and was considered a cheap, low-quality beer, as shown by references to it in literature of the 1890s and 1900s.--wiki

A look back at Solano Brewery and Vallejo's long tradition of brewing

150 years before Mare Island Brewing Company got its start and not long into the island's life as a bustling shipyard, there was another brewery best...

www.pediment.com

The company has been reconstituted or recreated in recent years...

https://solanobrew.com/

Steam beer - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Many of the breweries in the Bay Area were Bavarian. The unique climate of the bay - and it's different from one end to the other! - made beer making particularly fun. (Hubby was also assigned to Nightmare Island!) Prohibition really broke the hold the Germans had on the beer industry in California. They made it for the working guy and it wasn't meant to be the finest in all the land, but with a different method of brewing and plenty of competition, they did better.

Today breweries in Oregon and Washington are outdoing the beers in Germany, very much like in the 70s the California wines finally beat the unbeatable French. (Bottle Shock is a good movie on that, by the way.) Those two states, Washington and Oregon, grow the world's best hops. Unfortunately, the pandemic lockdowns caused a great deal of problems and many closures of small craft beer makers - very much like Prohibition did.

 

[rittmeister]

Many of the breweries in the Bay Area were Bavarian. The unique climate of the bay - and it's different from one end to the other! - made beer making particularly fun. (Hubby was also assigned to Nightmare Island!) Prohibition really broke the hold the Germans had on the beer industry in California. They made it for the working guy and it wasn't meant to be the finest in all the land, but with a different method of brewing and plenty of competition, they did better.

Today breweries in Oregon and Washington are outdoing the beers in Germany, very much like in the 70s the California wines finally beat the unbeatable French. (Bottle Shock is a good movie on that, by the way.) Those two states, Washington and Oregon, grow the world's best hops. Unfortunately, the pandemic lockdowns caused a great deal of problems and many closures of small craft beer makers - very much like Prohibition did.

you sure it was the prohibition and not anti-german resentment during ww I?

 

[diane]

you sure it was the prohibition and not anti-german resentment during ww I?

That did not help! It's much more palatable to blame the anti-booze fanatics who got that amendment passed. Beer was a factor in Lincoln's election as well. The Belgians and Germans in Wisconsin and the areas surrounding were afraid he was a temperance man and would dry up their beer making. He got their votes by saying nothing was further from his mind!

 

[O' Be Joyful]

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