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Here is another take with more details of the lead up and battle at the Battle of the Kalka River, its in two parts...

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Aftermath

Since no reliable figures for either army's composition exist, there are equally no reliable statistics for the casualties. It can be speculated, however, that the Kievan Rus' lost at least 50 percent of their total forces, if not 75 percent. Some chroniclers record that several Rus' princes managed to escape annihilation, including Prince Mstislav the Bold. Mongol losses were probably very light, maybe 2000 or less.

Footnote #1: Despite Mongol assurances of leniency, the captured Rus' nobles were subjected to a nefarious brand of justice. The Mongols believed that if the blood of an enemy's rulers were spilt, then the earth would be offended by the Mongols. Therefore, they developed many ingenious methods of executing their vanquished enemies. After the Mongol victory at the Kalka River, Subotai and Jebe held a victory feast. The captured Rus' princes were buried in the ground, with their heads exposed. A wooden platform was built above them. As the Mongol leadership and their men celebrated, the weight eventually crushed the Rus' princes to death.

Footnote #2: It would be 16 years before the Mongols would return to these lands. This time the steppe horsemen were bent on the conquest of the Kievan Rus'. Led by Batu Khan, grandson of the original Great Khan Genghis, the Mongols would destroy the various principalities of Kiev, move on into Poland, and devastate Hungary. Meanwhile, the principality of Novgorod would escape the Mongol yoke – but still pay tribute – and would evolve into the Grand Duchy of Muscovy. This entity was the ancestor to the Russian nation as we know it today.
 

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Here is a battle like the battle of the Alamo or the battle of Kosovo where defeat is celebrated as a moral victory. The Armenians have such a battle it called: The Battle of Avarayr in Jun of 451AD. A battle to protect the Christian faith...

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The Battle of Avarayr (Armenian: Ավարայրի ճակատամարտ Avarayri čakatamart) was fought on 2 June 451 on the Avarayr Plain in Vaspurakan between a Christian Armenian army under Vardan Mamikonian and Sassanid Persia. It is considered one of the first battles in defense of the Christian faith. Although the Persians were victorious on the battlefield, the battle proved to be a major strategic victory for Armenians, as Avarayr paved the way to the Nvarsak Treaty of 484 AD, which affirmed Armenia's right to practise Christianity freely.[3][4]The battle is seen as one of the most significant events in Armenian history.[9] The commander of the Armenian forces, Vardan Mamikonian, is considered a national hero and has been canonized by the Armenian Apostolic Church.[10][11]

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Following the victory, Yazdegerd jailed some Armenian priests and nobles and appointed a new governor for Armenia.

The Armenian Church was also unable to send a delegation to the Council of Chalcedon, as it was heavily involved in the war.[citation needed] In the 6th century, the Armenian Church would decide not to accept the Council of Chalcedon, instead adhering to Miaphysitism.

Armenian resistance continued in the decades following the battle, led by Vardan's successor and nephew, Vahan Mamikonian. In 484 AD, Sahag Bedros I signed the Nvarsak Treaty, which guaranteed religious freedom to the Christian Armenians[15] and granted a general amnesty with permission to construct new churches. Thus, the Armenians see the Battle of Avarayr as a moral victory; the Feast of St. Vartan and His Companions is considered to be a holy day by Armenians, and is one of the most important national and religious days in Armenia.

Here is the Armenian Church take on the battle...


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The Feast of Vartanantz, commemorated on the Thursday preceding Great Lent, is both a religious and nationalistic one. It is a symbol of the conscience, the faith, and the general rebellion of Armenians against tyranny, and their effort to preserve their identity and freedom. Although St. Vartan, as leader and patriot emerged as the most revered figure, the many other commanders, priests, and companions who numbered over 1,036 are also remembered on this feast day for their martyrdom. Many churches throughout the Diaspora have been named after the Vartanian saints, including St. Vartan Armenian Cathedral in New York City.

Here is a video it sets up the prelude to the battle , the battle details, and the aftermath of the battles...

 

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Here is another battle with Germans and this time the Czech's and the rise of the Habsburg dynasty. The Habsburg will rule until end of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire in 1918. I think @rittmeister , @Wehrkraftzersetzer might find interesting. The battle is not well know but now it will be brought back form the shelves of history... The Battle of Marchfield in 1278...


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The Battle on the Marchfeld (i.e. Morava Field; German: Schlacht auf dem Marchfeld; Czech: Bitva na Moravském poli; Hungarian: Morvamezei csata) at Dürnkrut and Jedenspeigen took place on 26 August 1278 and was a decisive event for the history of Central Europe for the following centuries. The opponents were a Bohemian (Czech) army led by the Přemyslid king Ottokar II of Bohemia and the German army under the German king Rudolph I of Habsburg in alliance with King Ladislaus IV of Hungary. With 15,300 mounted troops, it was one of the largest cavalry battles in Central Europe during the Middle Ages.[1] The Hungarian cavalry played a significant role in the outcome of the battle.

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Meanwhile, Rudolph was gathering allies and preparing for battle. He achieved two of these alliances through the classic Habsburg style – marriage. First, he married his son Albert to Elisabeth of Gorizia-Tyrol. In return, her father Count Meinhard II of Gorizia-Tyrol received the Duchy of Carinthia as a fief. Second, he established an — unstable — alliance with Duke Henry I of Lower Bavaria by offering Rudolph's daughter Katharina as wife for the Duke's son, Otto, in addition to the region of present-day Upper Austria as a pledge for her dowry. He also concluded an alliance with King Ladislaus IV of Hungary, who intended to settle old scores with Ottokar.

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Rudolph, to demonstrate his victory, had Ottokar's body displayed in Vienna. The "poor count" from Swabian Habsburg Castle assured his possession of the Duchies of Austria and Styria, the heartland and foundation of the rise of the House of Habsburg. At the 1282 Diet of Augsburg, he installed his sons Albert and Rudolf II as Austrian dukes; their descendants held the ducal dignity until 1918. However, in Bohemia, Rudolph acted cautiously and reached an agreement with the nobility and Ottokar's widow Kunigunda of Slavonia on the succession of her son Wenceslaus II to the throne. On the same occasion he reconciled with the Brandenburg margraves, ceding them the guardianship over the minor heir apparent. King Ladislaus IV exerted himself in the christianization of the Cuman warriors, before he was assassinated in 1290. Ottokar's son, the young king Wenceslaus II of Bohemia, turned out to be a capable ruler. In 1291 he acquired the Polish Seniorate Province at Kraków and was crowned King of Poland in 1300. He was even able to secure the Hungarian crown for his son Wenceslaus III, still a minor, who nevertheless was murdered in 1306, one year after his father's death, whereby the Přemyslid dynasty became extinct.

This is a great little video of the battle...You will see how Rudolph did a dishonorable act to win the battle... a flanking move dishonorable?

 

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I found a battle that brought the rise of the Mali Empire in the 1200's. The Battle of Kirina in 1235AD...

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The pivotal battle of Kirina was fought here in 1235 C.E. From the 13th to 17th century, West Africa was home to the great Mali Empire. Established by King Sundiata Keita, the kingdom united several smaller, Malinké Kingdoms near the Upper Niger River.


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The story of the battle is retold in the Epic of Sundiata, widely considered Mali's national epic. In it, Sumanguru Kanté is an evil sorcerer-king who oppresses the Mandinka people; however, when Sundiata discovers that his sacred animal is the rooster, he is able to wound Sumanguru Kanté with an arrow tipped by a cock's spur. The Sosso king then flees the field, disappearing into the Koulikoro mountains. A version of this story was recounted by Maximilien Quenum in his Légendes africaines.


snip,... Here is a description of the Mali military had a lot of elite units many members form the noble class.

I have a video doing a good detail of the battle...

 

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@Mike12 , Watch the video on post #63 and learn why the Armenians Church is different form the rest it seem they missed a council meeting due to a tiff..

I do not know why I am showing this you I have grass to watch...
 

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Here is a famous battle but few know about it. It end Carthage threat to the Romans and ended Hannibal's military career. It turn Carthage to a client state of Roman. The battle was the Battle of Zama in North Africa... Scipio is one of the under rated generals of history...


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The Battle of Zama was fought in 202 BC near Zama, now in Tunisia, and marked the end of the Second Punic War. A Roman army led by Publius Cornelius Scipio, with crucial support from Numidian leader Masinissa, defeated the Carthaginian army led by Hannibal.

After defeating Carthaginian and Numidian armies at the battles of Utica and the Great Plains, Scipio imposed peace terms on the Carthaginians, who had no choice but to accept them. At the same time, the Carthaginians recalled Hannibal's army from Italy. Confident in Hannibal's forces, the Carthaginians broke the armistice with Rome. Scipio and Hannibal confronted each other near Zama Regia. Hannibal had 36,000 infantry to Scipio's 29,000. One third of Hannibal's army were citizen levies, and the Romans had 6,100 cavalry to Carthage's 4,000, as most of the Numidian cavalry that Hannibal had employed with great success in Italy had defected to the Roman.


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Soon after Scipio's victory at Zama the war ended, with the Carthaginian senate suing for peace. Unlike the treaty that ended the First Punic War, the terms Carthage acceded to were so punishing that it was never able to challenge Rome for supremacy of the Mediterranean again. The treaty bankrupted Carthage and destroyed any chance of its being a military power in the future. Scipio returned to Rome a hero and was almost immediately granted a Triumph by the senate.

Hannibal initially returned to Carthage and went into civilian politics; under his leadership Carthage experienced a rapid post-war economic recovery.
This startled the Romans, who considered the Carthaginian general a great potential threat as long as he lived. Hannibal still had many enemies both inside and outside of Carthage. Due to pressure from both Rome and domestic political rivals, Hannibal voluntarily stepped down from power and went into exile. For the rest of his life, he traveled across the Mediterranean, offering his service to any polity waging war against Rome. Though many were eager to accept his offer, Hannibal ultimately failed to check Roman expansion. In 184BC, facing imminent capture, Hannibal chose suicide instead.[18][19]

One provision of the treaty ending the Second Punic War was that the Carthaginians were not allowed to make war without Roman consent. This allowed the Romans to establish a casus belli for the Third Punic War about 50 years later, after the Carthaginians defended themselves from Numidian encroachments, against which the Romans did not initially intervene. By then, Carthaginian power was a shadow of its former self. Though they fought with some success early on, the Carthaginians simply could not defeat the by-then very aged Masinissa once the armies of his Roman allies arrived in Africa. Unable to field a viable force in open combat and abandoned by all of their Punic allies, the Carthaginians commenced a spirited defense of their home city which, after an extended siege, was captured and completely destroyed in 146 BC. Only 55,000 of the city’s inhabitants survived, almost all of whom were sold into slavery by the Romans.[10]

 

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everybody who ever had latin
Well you can tell I never had Latin...


Another note about the battle:

Appian of Alexandria gives light to unique events that took place between Scipio and Hannibal prior to the Battle of Zama. Hannibal sent three spies into the Roman camp; when these spies were discovered, rather than have them killed, Scipio showed them his entire camp, and then sent them back to Hannibal. An impressed Hannibal requested a meeting with Scipio; before agreeing to meet Hannibal, Scipio marched his army to the nearby town of Cilla and cut the Carthaginians off from water. The two legendary generals met, reached no agreement, and returned to their armies to prepare for battle.

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Scipio brought to the Roman side of the conflict Masinissa, first king of the new Kingdom of Numidia. Masinissa brought to the table a huge advantage in his cavalry corps, which had been trained to withstand the fearful (to horses) smell of elephant. Rome lacked such specially trained horses, and therefore had no effective way to combat the massive animals until Scipio gained this ally.


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The battle of Zama emphasized the flexibility of the Roman mandibular legion and the discipline of its soldiers, who could be organized and reorganized timely and efficiently, even in the middle of battle. Roman arms proved doubtlessly superior to those of Hannibal’s auxiliaries, and provided an effective counter to the elephants.

Roman cavalry doctrine had clearly improved since the killing grounds of Cannae; Scipio recruited a numerically superior cavalry contingent that could fight even with elephants present on the battlefield. Roman cavalry and their Numidian allies opened the Carthaginian wings and returned at the opportune time to maximize this advantage.

With Hannibal defeated and his army crushed at Zama, Carthage ended as an effective military power in the Mediterranean. Rome was now free to begin its conquest of Macedon and Greece as it expanded further East; Gaul and Germania were likewise now on the table as possible acquisitions through conquest. With the elimination of Carthage came the opportunity for Rome to expand to the height of its size in the later age of the Roman Empire, the largest empire of the ancient world
 

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It was Scipio allies...


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In spite of that opposition, Scipio parlayed the immense popularity his victories in Spain had generated into election as consul in 205. As consul, he would be one of Rome’s two supreme magistrates and military commanders. Out of spite, however, Fabius saw to it that Scipio’s army would be formed from Legions V and VI, which had disgraced themselves at Cannae. Those troops had been sent to Sicily and forbidden to return to Italy for the duration of the war. Scipio’s call for volunteers to strengthen his army brought in 7,000 veterans, and he found those of Legions V and VI were experienced soldiers, eager to erase the shame of their defeat at Cannae. They were, however, old men with little experience in set-piece battles after more than a decade of garrison duty in Sicily. Joining his volunteers with those troops, Scipio brought the strength of each legion to 6,200 foot soldiers, which were complemented by an equal number of Italian allies. His cavalry included about 300 Roman and 900 Italian horse soldiers per legion.

Scipio spent the entire year of his consulship drilling his army. He also stayed in contact with the Numidian lords, whose cavalry support he regarded as vital to the success of his enterprise. Scipio placed his greatest hopes on his alliance with Syphax, king of the Masaesyles, or Western Numidians. Hedging his bets, Scipio had also sought the alliance of the young Masinissa, son of King Gaia of the Massyles, or Eastern Numidians.


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Scipio crossed over to Africa in the summer of 204 without incident, landing near Cape Bon. The Punic navy was not a great threat at that time, and his greatest worry was the loss of Syphax’s support. Scipio was heartened when he was met in Africa by Masinissa, with 200 crack horsemen, but that was the full extent of Masinissa’s following. King Gaia had died, and Masinissa had become involved in a hard-fought war of succession. Syphax had intervened at the crucial moment, adding the Massyles kingdom to his own and driving Masinissa out as a mere renegade. Nevertheless, Scipio saw great opportunities in Masinissa’s friendship.

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Hasdrubal and Syphax were content to set up camp and keep watch over the Romans. Overconfident because of their numbers, they opened negotiations with Scipio, who played along in order to collect intelligence on the enemy camps. His diplomats, accompanied by senior centurions disguised as servants, brought him word that the Punic camps were highly vulnerable to flame. Scipio strung out the negotiations into the early spring of 203, but when he judged his forces were ready, he broke off the peace talks, though he still held out the hope they would resume shortly. The Carthaginian leaders, lulled into a false sense of security, suspected nothing until Scipio struck. Both camps were set alight in a surprise night assault, and the two armies were annihilated, with practically no loss to the Romans. Scipio scored another victory in Rome, where his supporters succeeded in extending his proconsulship in Africa for the duration of the war.

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The Roman victory was nearly undone, however, by the wiles of the beautiful Sophonisba, who threw herself at Masinissa’s feet, pleading for protection from the wrath of the Romans. Masinissa was overcome with passion for the young woman and impulsively pledged to protect her. On the following day, Masinissa arranged a marriage ceremony with her, hoping Scipio would not order the surrender of his new bride.

When Scipio heard of these events he was not amused. His former alliance with Syphax had been sundered by this woman, and now she had captured the heart of Masinissa. Scipio rebuked the young prince and sternly informed him that even if she was not Hasdrubal’s daughter, his Carthaginian bride was technically a prisoner of war. Masinissa saw only one way to honor his pledge never to allow Sophonisba to fall into the hands of the Romans: He sent a slave to her with a cup of poison, which she drank without hesitation. To take Masinissa’s mind off this tragic turn of events, Scipio had him declared a king and sent him off to complete the conquest of Numidia
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@Mike12 , this is a thread I started and I am the only one posting on it. You can do similar things like this on thread you started and you will be left alone unless someone choses to post on it...
 

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@Mike12 , this is a thread I started and I am the only one posting on it. You can do similar things like this on thread you started and you will be left alone unless someone choses to post on it...
actually you have (with this) 31/73 alien posts - hardly sth i'd call
I am the only one posting on it.
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I and introducing the Romans and Arabs fought in battles...

Roman invaded Arabia in 26BC...


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In the Year of the Consulship of Augustus and Taurus (26 BC/728 AUC) Aelius Gallus (Second Praefect of Aegyptus) was sent on an expedition to Arabia Felix. The expedition would experience some early treachery and then grow into a campaign to add a new and strategic province to the new Roman Empire.

Year of the Consulship of Augustus and Taurus (26 BC/728 AUC): Aelius Gallus lands his forces in Arabia Felix. After some early disasters such as lack of water and supplies it is discovered that Syllaeus, a Nabataean guide, has betrayed the expedition. After some reorganization and aid from allies in the Kingdom of Aksum, the expedition continues. The Himyarite Kingdom caused some problems for the expedition and then refused Roman 'friendship.' By the end of the year the Himyarites fell to Roman might

Here is a video about the Romans invasion of Arabia in 26BC...


Arabs sacked Rome in 846AD...


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The Arab raid against Rome took place in 846AD. Muslim raiders plundered the outskirts of the city of Rome, sacking the basilicas of Old St Peter's and St Paul's-Outside-the-Walls, but were prevented from entering the city itself by the Aurelian Walls.

Shortly after the siege, Pope Leo IV built the Leonine Wall on the right bank of the Tiber, in order to protect the Church of St. Peter. The encircled territory, defended by Castel Sant'Angelo, was named Leonine City after the pope, and was considered a separate town, with its own administration. It joined the city in the sixteenth century, becoming the fourteenth rione of Rome, Borgo. In 849, another Arab raid against Rome's port, Ostia, would be repelled; the city was never again attacked by an Arab fleet.


Here a video on the sacking its worth a watch 73 ships and 11,000 Arab pirates...

 

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I found a Island the Mongols invaded and early Native Japans the Aninu fought them but in the end became vassals...


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The peace between the Nivkh and the Sakhalin Ainu as well as the Mongol presence in Sakhalin also meant that the Hokkaido Ainu could not freely migrate to Sakhalin across the La Pérouse Strait as they had done over the centuries. The population pressure that pushed the Ainu north now encountered resistance, and the resulting reaction in the southern direction brought the Ainu into increasing conflict with the Japanese. Around the time of the Mongol invasions of Sakhalin, the Ainu of Tsugaru rose up against the powerful Andō clan (安東氏) of northern Japan in a war that lasted from 1268 to 1328 called the Ezo Rebellion (蝦夷大乱).[41] The war, which was described by the 13th century Japanese Buddhist monk Nichiren as a disaster on par with the Mongol invasion of Japan in 1274 and 1281,[41] caused the Andō clan to splinter and might even have contributed to the fall of the ruling Kamakura shogunate in Japan.[42] Despite the commonly accepted cause of the war being trade disagreements and religious differences between the Ainu and the Andō clan,[43] Mongol action in Sakhalin might have had a hand in creating and amplifying the conflict.[41] The so-called "Mongol invasion of Japan from the north" was therefore an indirect one at most, in the opinion of Kazuyuki Nakamura.

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Here is Islam's first battle or "Islam's first Arrow" the Battle of Badr... The rise of Islam... You learn that the early Muslims were sand pirates after being kick out of Mecca... after the battle of Badr started a six year war with Mecca...


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The Battle of Badr (Arabic: غَزْوَةُ بَدِرْ‎ Arabic pronunciation: [ɣaz'wat'u ba'dir]), also referred to as The Day of the Criterion (Arabic: يَوْمُ الْفُرْقَانْ‎, Arabic pronunciation: [jawm'ul fur'qaːn]) in the Qur'an and by Muslims, was fought on Tuesday, 13 March 624 CE (17 Ramadan, 2 AH),[2] near the present-day city of Badr, Al Madinah Province in Saudi Arabia. Muhammad, commanding an army of his Sahaba, defeated an army of the Quraysh led by Amr ibn Hishām, better known as Abu Jahl. The battle marked the beginning of the six-year war between Muhammad and his tribe. Prior to the battle, the Muslims and the Meccans had fought several smaller skirmishes in late 623 and early 624.

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The battle began with al-Aswad bin 'Abdul-Asad al-Makhzumi, one of the men from Abu Jahl's clan, the Banu Makhzum, swearing that he would drink from the well of the Muslims or otherwise destroy it or die for it. In response to his cries, Hamza ibn 'Abdul-Muttalib, one of Muhammad's uncles, came out and they began fighting in a duel. Hamza struck al-Aswad's leg before dealing him another blow that would kill him. Seeing this, three men protected by armor and shields, Utbah ibn Rabi'ah, alongside his brother, Shaybah ibn Rabi'ah and son, al-Walid ibn 'Utbah, emerged from the Makkan ranks. Three of the Madani Ansar emerged from the Muslim ranks, only to be shouted back by the Meccans, who were nervous about starting any unnecessary feuds and only wanted to fight the Muhajirun, keeping the dispute within the tribe. So Hamza approached and called on Ubaydah ibn al-Harith and 'Ali ibn Abu Talib to join him. The first two duels between 'Ali and al-Walid and Hamza and Shaybah were quick with both managing to kill their opponents swiftly. After the fight between Ali and Walid, Hamza looked at 'Ubaydah to find him seriously wounded. He then fell upon and killed Shaybah. Ali and Hamza then carried Ubaydah back into the Muslim lines. He died later due to a disease.[17][5][18][4] A shower of arrows from both sides followed these duels and this was followed by several other duels, most of which were won by the Muslims.[4] The Makkans now took the offensive and charged upon the Muslim lines.


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After winning the Battle, Allah reminded the believers that it was only through His will, they were victorious. “And you did not kill them, but it was Allah who killed them. And you threw not, [O Muhammad], when you threw, but it was Allah who threw that He might test the believers with a good test. Indeed, Allah is Hearing and Knowing.” Quran 8:17 “And Allah made it not except as [a sign of] good tidings for you and to reassure your hearts thereby. And victory is not except from Allah, the Exalted in Might, the Wise” Quran 3:126.
 

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Here is a little to unknown battle that would lead to the Vandals conquering North Africa and setting up a Kingdom in the years to come... not much written about it at all... The Battle of Tarraco in Spain...


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The Battle of Tarraco was fought between the Vandals and the Western Roman Empire at Tarraco, Hispania Tarraconensis in 422. Campaigning in eastern Hispania, the Vandal king Gunderic had earlier defeated the Suebi. He met the Roman commander Flavius Castinus at Tarraco, modern day Tarragona. With the desertion of their Visigothic allies, the Romans were utterly defeated, making the Vandals the undisputed masters of Hispania. After the death of Gunderic, his brother Genseric led the Vandals to North Africa, where they founded a powerful kingdom.

Here the Vandal King at the time...


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They defeated a Roman army, led by magister militum Castinus, outside the walls of Cordoba in 422. The Vandals attacked Mauretania Tingitana, the Balearics, and sacked Cartagena and Seville in 425. They did not remain in these cities. Gunderic re-took the city in 428. The Vandals departed Spain in 429 and for 10 years Roman Spain was intact except for Galicia under the control of the Sueves.[1] Hydatius writes that in 428 Gunderic laid "hands on the church of that very city, by the will of God he was seized by a demon and died." It is unclear how Gunderic died, however it is theorized that Hydatius' writing was in reference to Gunderic's attempt to convert a Catholic church to an Arian church. The attempt was short-lived: not long after his attempt to seize the church in Hispalis, he unexpectedly died. After Gunderic died early in 428, the Vandals elected his half-brother Genseric as his successor, and Genseric left Iberia to the Visigoths in favor of invading Roman Africa.

Here is Genseric reign... founding of a Kingdom...


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Gaiseric was an illegitimate son of King Godigisel and a slave woman.[2] After his father's death in a battle against the Franks during the Crossing of the Rhine, Gaiseric became the second most powerful man among the Vandals, after the new king, his half-brother Gunderic—long before his more formal accession to the kingship.[3] Jordanes described Gaiseric in the following manner:

Gaiseric...was a man of moderate height and lame in consequence of a fall from his horse. He was a man of deep thought and few words, holding luxury in disdain, furious in his anger, greedy for gain, shrewd in winning over the barbarians and skilled in sowing the seeds of dissension to arouse enmity.[4]
After Gunderic's death in 428, Gaiseric became king of the Vandals, continuing the hostilities begun by his brother.[5] To this end, he sought ways of increasing the power and wealth of his people, who then resided in the Roman province of Hispania Baetica in southern Hispania. The Vandals had suffered greatly from attacks from the more numerous Visigothic federates, and not long after taking power, Gaiseric decided to leave Hispania to this rival Germanic tribe. In fact, he seems to have started building a Vandal fleet even before he became king. In 429 Gaiseric was attacked by a large force of Suebi under the command of Heremigarius who had managed to take Lusitania. This Suebic army was defeated near Mérida and its leader drowned in the Guadiana River while trying to flee.

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The Vandal Kingdom (Latin: Regnum Vandalum) or Kingdom of the Vandals and Alans (Latin: Regnum Vandalorum et Alanorum) was established by the Germanic Vandal people under Gaiseric. It ruled in North Africa and the Mediterranean from 435 to 534 CE.

In 429 CE, the Vandals, estimated to number 80,000 people, had crossed by boat from Hispania to North Africa. They advanced eastward, conquering the coastal regions of what is now Morocco, Algeria, and Tunisia. In 435, the Roman Empire, then ruling North Africa, allowed the Vandals to settle in the provinces of Numidia and Mauretania when it became clear that the Vandal army could not be defeated by Roman military forces. In 439 the Vandals renewed their advance eastward and captured Carthage, the most important city of North Africa. The fledgling kingdom then conquered the Roman-ruled islands of Mallorca, Sicily, Sardinia, and Corsica in the western Mediterranean. In the 460s, the Romans launched two unsuccessful military expeditions by sea in an attempt to overthrow the Vandals and reclaim North Africa. The conquest of North Africa by the Vandals was a blow to the beleaguered Western Roman Empire as North Africa was a major source of revenue and a supplier of grain (mostly wheat) to the city of Rome.

Although primarily remembered for the sack of Rome in 455 and their persecution of Nicene Christians in favor of Arian Christianity, the Vandals were also patrons of learning. Grand building projects continued, schools flourished, and North Africa fostered many of the most innovative writers and natural scientists of the late Latin-speaking Western Roman Empire.[5]

The Vandal Kingdom ended in 534, when it was conquered by Belisarius in the Vandalic War and incorporated into the Eastern Roman Empire (or Byzantine Empire). The surviving Vandals either assimilated into the indigenous African population or were dispersed among the Byzantine territories.
 

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These two battles ended the Germanic wars... and avenged the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest... The battle of German pride lead to years to revenge by the Romans that ended in these battle... both sides were burned out...

Battle of Idistaviso - Wikipedia

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The Battle of Idistaviso, sometimes known as the First Battle of Minden or Battle of the Weser River, was fought in 16 AD between Roman legions commanded by Roman Emperor Tiberius's heir and adopted son, Germanicus, and an alliance of Germanic peoples, commanded by Arminius. The battle marked the end of a three-year series of campaigns by Germanicus in Germania.

Here is the second battle... after this battle Roman fleet was destroyed by a storm at sea...

Battle of the Angrivarian Wall - Wikipedia

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The Battle of the Angrivarian Wall was fought near Porta Westfalica, Germany in 16 AD between the Roman general Germanicus and an alliance of Germanic tribes commanded by Arminius. This battle followed immediately after the Battle of Idistaviso, and was supposedly sparked by Germanic outrage over the trophy erected on that prior battlefield by the Romans. It was the final battle of a three-year series of campaigns by Germanicus in Germania. According to Tacitus, the battle was a victory for the Romans. Germanicus, now in winter quarters across the Rhine, wanted to renew the conquest in the Spring, but was recalled to Rome by Tiberius, now Rome's Emperor. In fact this final action led to a withdrawal of the Roman troops from territories of Germania east of the Rhine river effectively until the collapse of the Roman Empire.

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@rittmeister , @Wehrkraftzersetzer , @Daring Drea... The Germanic tribes almost had their second the Battle of the Teutoburg Forest like victory but the Romans were able to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat... only if the tribal leaders would have listen to Arminius. They could have had another great victory against the Roman's...


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After fighting an indecisive battle with Arminius, Germanicus ordered Caecina to take his original forces and march back to the Rhine. Arriving at a spot referred to as the "long causeways" and finding it impassable, Caecina began repairs to the causeways so that he could continue his march towards the Rhine.[2] However, he was attacked by Arminius and just managed to hold him off when night fell. The next day, the two armies joined in battle again. The Roman legions became separated and were again almost defeated. Caecina, trying to hold the front line against the Germans, had his horse killed under him, and he only survived due to the timely intervention of the First Legion.[3] When Caecina saw many of the Germans turning from the fighting to plunder the baggage carts and pack mules, he gave orders for the baggage to be abandoned. This was the key reason the First and Twentieth legions were able to withdraw and rejoin the Fifth and Twenty-First legions on dry land by nightfall.

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During the night Arminius counselled in favour of letting the Romans leave their camp in the morning and resume their march to the Rhine. Arminius explained that once the legionaries were in the open and clear of the camp, the Cheruscans could wipe them out. But Arminius’ uncle, Inguiomerus, did not want to give the Romans a chance to escape. He advised attacking their camp at dawn and over-running it. Other chiefs concurred. So Arminius, outvoted, agreed to lead a dawn attack on the Roman camp.

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Did you know the Greeks and Chinese meet fought a war over a breed of horses the Chinese called Heavenly Horse... The Greek culture went on to influence China, Buddhism and the Heavenly Horses help the Han Chinese win a war against another Nomadic tribes to the north. This war is noted for opening up the Great Silk Road...


Here a video about the conflict and you will meet China's Marco Polo...

 
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