Augusta Georgia Civil War Monument and the Lost Cause

[PatYoung]

There is a debate in Augusta, Georgia about removing the local Confederate monument. Defenders says it is a simple memorial to the dead, but the dedication of the monument said it was a memorial to the "Lost Cause." Among those it honors is one of the scholarly defenders of slavery.

Augusta Georgia's Monument to the Confederacy and "Reconstruction" - The Reconstruction Era

Augusta, Georgia is one of many Southern cities where controversy has enveloped the local Confederate monument. Black Lives Matter rallies have targeted the memorial, calling...

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[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

Just plaster the way to the monument with those stumblestones?

Would keep the monument where it is
Correct the historical facts.
Be an examble of Vergangenheitsbewältigung (=accepting, understanding and condemning history) Without Vergangenheitsbeweältigung there is no chance for the second step

 

[Jim Klag]

Just plaster the way to the monument with those stumblestones?

Would keep the monument where it is
Correct the historical facts.
Be an examble of Vergangenheitsbewältigung (=accepting, understanding and condemning history) Without Vergangenheitsbeweältigung there is no chance for the second step

I couldn't agree more. Leave these monuments where they are and add another monument or marker showing what a pro-slavery racist Howell Cobb really was and explain the Lost Cause's origin as a post-war reconstruction era phenomenon.

 

[rittmeister]

I couldn't agree more. Leave these monuments where they are and add another monument or marker showing what a pro-slavery racist Howell Cobb really was and explain the Lost Cause's origin as a post-war reconstruction era phenomenon.

throwing lee and davis out of the capitol?

 

[Jim Klag]

throwing lee and davis out of the capitol?

I wouldn't have done that. But I understand why others applaud it. Davis, in particular, had a long government service career in the Senate and the Cabinet before the war. Each state gets to put statues of their favorite sons/daughters in the capitol. Virginia selected Lee and likewise Mississippi with Davis. Neither choice should be a surprise. Who the hell else would Mississippi choose? Maybe William Faulkner or Shelby Foote.

 

[rittmeister]

I wouldn't have done that. But I understand why others applaud it. Davis, in particular, had a long government service career in the Senate and the Cabinet before the war. Each state gets to put statues of their favorite sons/daughters in the capitol. Virginia selected Lee and likewise Mississippi with Davis. Neither choice should be a surprise. Who the hell else would Mississippi choose? Maybe William Faulkner or Shelby Foote.

why not faulkner? those two are textbook traitors - should we put heinrich himmler in the walhalla?

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

I wouldn't have done that. But I understand why others applaud it. Davis, in particular, had a long government service career in the Senate and the Cabinet before the war. Each state gets to put statues of their favorite sons/daughters in the capitol. Virginia selected Lee and likewise Mississippi with Davis. Neither choice should be a surprise. Who the hell else would Mississippi choose? Maybe William Faulkner or Shelby Foote.

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[rittmeister]

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yep

 

[Jim Klag]

why not faulkner? those two are textbook traitors - should we put heinrich himmler in the walhalla?

Good point. Alexander Stephen's, VP of the CSA is in there for Georgia; John C. Calhoun and Wade Hampton for South Carolina. Do we get rid of all of them?

 

[Jim Klag]

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Missouri

 

[rittmeister]

Good point. Alexander Stephen's, VP of the CSA is in there for Georgia; John C. Calhoun and Wade Hampton for South Carolina. Do we get rid of all of them?

the way i read it, that's the plan. of course, moscow mitch won't table it and if he did (and it somehow got a majority) the don wouldn't sign it into law.

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

Missouri

since a certain A.H. was a German ....

 

[rittmeister]

Missouri

oops, i really thought he checked

 

[Jim Klag]

the way i read it, that's the plan. of course, moscow mitch won't table it and if he did (and it somehow got a majority) the don wouldn't sign it into law.

Do they need an actual bill to do it?

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

oops, i really thought he checked

nope I hadn't to do I was trumping

 

[rittmeister]

Do they need an actual bill to do it?

that shouldn't be a problem should it? afaik the bill is underway (at least der spiegel says so).

 

[Jim Klag]

that shouldn't be a problem should it? afaik the bill is underway (at least der spiegel says so).

Did they pass a bill to get rid of Lee and Davis? I remember the removal, but not the mechanism for it.

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

Do they need an actual bill to do it?

Moscow Mitch presents a bill 4 everything he does.

(rich Mitch)

 

[rittmeister]

afaik not yet but they are working on it

 

[Jim Klag]

Moscow Mitch presents a bill 4 everything he does.

(rich Mitch)

I love the Lincoln Project.