All Female Combat Units...

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

the difference it that it doesn't work since the males get macho (proofing themselves in front of females) and than shot

 

[Kirk's Raider's]

the difference it that it doesn't work since the males get macho (proofing themselves in front of females) and than shot

We really would have to get data from the IDF or members of the Karakal Battalion. We should not just assume.
Kirk's Raiders

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

We really would have to get data from the IDF or members of the Karakal Battalion. We should not just assume.
Kirk's Raiders

nope: You

Apart from the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, when manpower shortages saw many Palmach and IDF women taking active part in land battles, women were historically barred from battle in the IDF, serving in a variety of technical and administrative support roles. Soon after the establishment of the IDF, the removal of all women from front-line positions was decreed.

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btw the thread title is all female

so the Russian WW I and WW II units don't count, the Kurds don't count the units were / are commanded by men
The Eritrean units don't count, the Bosnian units don't count: mixed and commanded by men


even in the US and other western armies they try to keep women out of the front lines

for 2 reasons:

male hybris
males showing off in front of women, so the whole thing is contra productive


and btw

 

[diane]

Well, there's also the natural expendability of the male - doesn't take many roosters - and the build for strength. But I've never understood why women couldn't fight as well, just differently. If raiders are shooting my family and riding off with my daughters, I'm not waiting for a man to save me! The US army thought it was pretty awful when they saw women warriors in with the men in the Indian fights around here - thought the men were cowards when they'd use the women as shields. Misunderstanding! Once the men knew the soldiers were unwilling to shoot women, they had no problem standing behind them and women had no problem getting in front of the men. Indian on Indian fighting, whoever was shooting at a warrior got shot, no matter the gender. Just no gentlemen's difficulties about war!

 

[Kirk's Raider's]

nope: You


article

btw the thread title is all female

so the Russian WW I and WW II units don't count, the Kurds don't count the units were / are commanded by men
The Eritrean units don't count, the Bosnian units don't count: mixed and commanded by men


even in the US and other western armies they try to keep women out of the front lines

for 2 reasons:

male hybris
males showing off in front of women, so the whole thing is contra productive


and btw

I already mentioned the Kurdish female fighters. I merely pointed out that the IDF has one Co-ed infantry battalion. You made an unsourced assertion that the men dominate the women of the Karakal Battalion.
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[Kirk's Raider's]

Well, there's also the natural expendability of the male - doesn't take many roosters - and the build for strength. But I've never understood why women couldn't fight as well, just differently. If raiders are shooting my family and riding off with my daughters, I'm not waiting for a man to save me! The US army thought it was pretty awful when they saw women warriors in with the men in the Indian fights around here - thought the men were cowards when they'd use the women as shields. Misunderstanding! Once the men knew the soldiers were unwilling to shoot women, they had no problem standing behind them and women had no problem getting in front of the men. Indian on Indian fighting, whoever was shooting at a warrior got shot, no matter the gender. Just no gentlemen's difficulties about war!

Interesting that US soldiers wouldn't shoot female Indian warriors. Highly doubtful other soldiers in other armies had that difficulty.
Soviet female snipers knew to use the last bullet for themselves vs being captured.
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[diane]

Interesting that US soldiers wouldn't shoot female Indian warriors. Highly doubtful other soldiers in other armies had that difficulty.
Soviet female snipers knew to use the last bullet for themselves vs being captured.
Kirk's Raiders

You know, I kind of think that was the attitude before the CW - after, they seemed a whole lot less concerned. Women were sometimes a little less than helpless during that war. A fellow was telling me his family had a sad story of their gggrandma being killed by evil Yankees while sitting in her rocker wrapped in her shawl. They found out the real story, though - granny saw the Union cavalry roaring past her front porch so she went out with her pistol and started blasting away! She got five of them before one of them ceased to be a gentleman and shot her dead.

 

[5fish]

btw the thread title is all female

I think you are off... If all the NCO's are women and are doing all the fighting then it counts even if there a 2nd LT here or a 1st LT lead the band of women fighters into battle... If the NCO's is a mix of men and women than you win the argument. We are counting ever size unit from a company up to Division if it all women it counts...

 

[Kirk's Raider's]

I think you are off... If all the NCO's are women and are doing all the fighting then it counts even if there a 2nd LT here or a 1st LT lead the band of women fighters into battle... If the NCO's is a mix of men and women than you win the argument. We are counting ever size unit from a company up to Division if it all women it counts...

I think it's fair to say all female units are just not practical in the 21st Century. Yes Kurdish females in Syria fought ISIS but sometimes they were intergrated with Kurdish men.
The Soviets did have small all female air combat squadrons but no Airforce has done so since.
Maybe way back in the day there were all female Amazon regiments but that's not the future if women soldiers today.
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[diane]

By the way, have you fellas noticed now many war gods are goddesses? Just sayin'!

 

[Kirk's Raider's]

By the way, have you fellas noticed now many war gods are goddesses? Just sayin'!

Woman can be very fierce indeed.
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[O' Be Joyful]

Woman can be very fierce indeed.

Old saying: "Life's a bitch, and I almost married one."

 

[O' Be Joyful]

Well, there's also the natural expendability of the male - doesn't take many roosters - and the build for strength.

Too your point, how many wives did Old Lodge Skins have before they got rubbed out?

 

[Kirk's Raider's]

Old saying: "Life's a bitch, and I almost married one."

If I had a daughter she would need to be fierce. Men tend to treat woman like crap not all men but quite a few. Domestic violence is common among all socio economic groups but by no means are demographic groups equal in terms of victimization.
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[O' Be Joyful]

If I had a daughter she would need to be fierce. Men tend to treat woman like crap not all men but quite a few.

You missed my joke/badly put point and I have intravened many times when someone was being abused. If you wish to discuss further you are free to address me by pm.

 

[5fish]

Here Africa had a Female warrior army... http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20180826-the-legend-of-benins-fearless-female-warriors

The Dahomey Amazons were frontline soldiers in the army of the Kingdom of Dahomey, a West African empire that existed from 1625 to 1894. Its remnants lie in modern-day Benin, which occupies a sliver of the coast between Nigeria and Togo. Whether conquering neighbouring tribes or resisting European forces, the Amazons were known for their fearlessness. In one of the final battles against the French in 1892 before the kingdom became a French colony, it is said only 17 out of 434 Amazons came back alive.

According to legend, Hangbe assumed the throne in the early 18th Century after the sudden death of her twin brother, Akaba. After a short rule, she was forcibly deposed by her power-hungry younger brother, Agaja. The current Queen Hangbe told me that all traces of her ancestor’s reign were erased by Agaja, who believed that only men should hold the throne. In a dusty museum that lies within the walls of the Royal Palaces in Abomey, the monarchs’ elaborate bronze sceptres are displayed in order of their reign. There is no sign of one belonging to Hangbe, and some historians question whether she existed at all.

Yet her legacy lived on through her mighty female soldiers. Oral and written accounts differ over the origins of the women-only corps. Some sources describe the Amazons as elephant hunters who graduated to human prey. The more widely accepted theory is that they served as royal bodyguards to Hangbe and the kings who came after.

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It was King Ghezo, who ruled over Dahomey from 1818 to 1858, who officially integrated the Amazons into the army. This in part was a practical decision, as manpower was increasingly scarce due to the European slave trade.

The recognition of the Amazons as official soldiers of Dahomey strengthened a duality that was already embedded in the society through the kingdom's religion, which has since developed into Vodun, now one of Benin’s official religions and the basis of voodoo. An integral legend told of Mawu-Lisa, a male and female god who came together to create the universe. In all institutions, political, religious and military, men would have a female equivalent. The king, however, reigned supreme.

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Historical accounts of the Amazons are notoriously unreliable, though several European slave traders, missionaries and colonialists recorded their encounters with the fearless women. In 1861, Italian priest Francesco Borghero described an army exercise where thousands of women scaled 120m-high thorny acacia bushes barefoot without a whimper. In 1889, French colonial administrator Jean Bayol described witnessing one young Amazon approach a captive as part of her training. "[She] walked jauntily up, swung her sword three times with both hands, then calmly cut the last flesh that attached the head to the trunk… She then squeezed the blood off her weapon and swallowed it."

Here is a Smithsonian Article better details...

LINK: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/dahomeys-women-warriors-88286072/

 

[5fish]

The Scythians now are to believe to have had women women warriors giving rise the Greeks Amazons of Myth... it is a good read..

Link: https://militaryhistorynow.com/2019...rior-women-of-the-era-of-alexander-the-great/

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In burial mounds known as kurgans, more than 112 graves of women buried with weapons were unearthed between the Don and the Danube rivers. Many were scarred with arrow wounds. The high proportion of females with weapons suggests 25 per cent of Scythian fighters were women, a figure rising as more skeletal remains undergo DNA testing. But who was the Scythian-outfitted warrioress in Tomb II?

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Inevitably, tales of Amazons entered the history of Alexander who was determined to retrace pre-history’s colourful sagas. The young Macedonian conqueror is said to have crossed paths with 300 of the fabled warrioresses during his conquest of Persia, even partaking in a 13-day tryst with an Amazon queen. Various embassies from the more-easily accounted for Scythian tribes are found in the campaign accounts.

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The curators of the Vergina museum dismiss the Tomb II ‘female warrior’ theory wholesale, explaining the weapons belonged to the male, as their upright position against the dividing door of their chambers suggests. That notion died when anthropologists found a wound on the woman’s left shinbone, proving the weapons and armour were hers. Trauma to her tibia had caused shortening of her leg, and one of her gilded greaves was 3.5-centimetres shorter than the other: it had been custom sized to her deformity.

The tale of "the first war between Women leaders"...

The ‘First War of Women’
At Alexander’s death in Babylon in June 323 BC, Cynnane crossed to Asia with the now-teenage Adea against the wishes of the state regent determined to launch her into the developing game of thrones. Alexander’s second-in-command in Asia was just as determined to prevent the rogue royal women from intriguing and sent troops to intercept the mother and daughter.
During a resulting skirmish, Cynnane was run through. Furious at seeing a daughter of Philip murdered, the soldiers demanded Adea be presented to the new co-king, Arrhidaeus, who had been crowned at Babylon after Alexander’s death. So in a twist of fate, Philip’s pugnacious granddaughter was married to his own halfwit son. Both were escorted back to Macedon, but not before Adea almost stirred the army to mutiny.
The stage was set for civil war; Olympias and her army faced Adea and her troops. Olympias marched out garbed as a follower of Dionysus to the haunting beat of a drum. Across the battlefield, Adea appeared outfitted as a Macedonian soldier. Her allegiance-torn troops deserted to Olympias in what became known as “the first war of women.”
Olympias gave Adea and her halfwit husband were given an ultimatum: forced suicide by hemlock, sword or rope. The defiant Adea strangled herself with her own girdle, while the mentally impaired Arrhidaeus was put to the Thracian dagger. They were eventually given a burial by the regent’s son when he came to power.

 

[5fish]

I could not find a unit of female Viking warriors but they did have Shield-maidens. They were female warriors who with the men folk... There is debate if the ever existed but they do find viking female warriors graves...

Snip... http://www.shieldmaidenssanctum.com/blog/2019/2/25/what-is-a-shieldmaiden

The word skjaldmær and the concept of the shieldmaiden originate primarily in the Norse sagas. Several shieldmaidens were mentioned by name, including:

• Brynhildr, or Brunhilda, a female warrior of the Vǫlsunga saga, whose story showcased a strong female concerned with honor, duty, and straightforward dealing - all traits traditionally associated with male warriors at the time
• Hervör, a female Viking of the Hervarar saga, whose story involved a cursed sword and the complexities of gender and family roles in Old Norse society
• Hlathgerth, or Lagertha, a female warrior and cultural leader in Norway, whose story is recorded not in a traditional saga but a history written in the 12th century by Saxo Grammaticus

The concept of the female warrior is not unique to Northern European culture. Countries around the globe have stories of women who trained in weaponry and tactics, including the warrior queen Boudica (Roman Britain), soldier Hua Mulan (China), Apache warrior and prophet Lozen (America), and empress Zenobia (Syria).

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Shield-maiden - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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A shield-maiden (Old Norse: skjaldmær) was a female warrior from Scandinavian folklore and mythology. Historians disagree about whether they existed or not.
Shield-maidens are often mentioned in sagas such as Hervarar saga ok Heiðreks and in Gesta Danorum. They also appear in stories of other Germanic peoples: Goths, Cimbri, and Marcomanni.[1] The mythical Valkyries may have been based on such shield-maidens.[1]

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Saxo Grammaticus[12] reported that shield-maidens fought on the side of the Danes at the Battle of Brávellir in the year 750:

Now out of the town of Sle, under the captains Hetha (Heid) and Wisna, with Hakon Cut-cheek came Tummi the Sailmaker. On these captains, who had the bodies of women, nature bestowed the souls of men. Webiorg was also inspired with the same spirit, and was attended by Bo (Bui) Bramason and Brat the Jute, thirsting for war.

When Leif Erikson's pregnant half-sister Freydís Eiríksdóttir was in Vinland, she is reported to have taken up a sword and, bare-breasted, scared away the attacking Skrælings.[10] The fight is recounted in the Greenland saga, which does not explicitly refer to Freydís as a shield-maiden.[11

There are few historical attestations that Viking Age women took part in warfare. The Byzantine historian John Skylitzes records that women fought in battle when Sviatoslav I of Kiev attacked the Byzantines in Bulgaria in 971.[10] When the Varangians (not to be confused with the Byzantine Varangian Guard) had suffered a devastating defeat in the Siege of Dorostolon, the victors were stunned to discover armed women among the fallen warriors.

 

[5fish]

Here something goes along with the Amazons in Persia...

LINK> https://www.ancient.eu/article/1492/women-in-ancient-persia/

LINK>https://sites.google.com/site/masou...cyrus-king-the-great/historical-persian-women

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Women in the Achaemenid Period could also serve in the military as attested by the written record and physical evidence. Scholar Kaveh Farrokh notes that “tombs attesting to the existence of Iranian-speaking women warriors have [been found in Iran and] also been excavated in Eastern Europe” (128). The best-known female warrior of this era is Artemisia I of Caria who lived during the reign of Xerxes I. She was an admiral in the Persian fleet at the Battle of Salamis in 480 BCE, noted for her courage and skill, and was so admired by Xerxes I that, after the battle, she was given the honor of escorting his sons to safety.
Other notable Achaemenid warrior women were Pantea Artesbod, who lived during the reign of Cyrus the Great and was instrumental – along with her husband – in the organization of the elite military unit of the 10,000 Persian Immortals, Artunis (l. c. 540-500 BCE), a Lieutenant Commander of the army, remembered for her courage and skill in battle, and Youtab Aryobarzan (d. 330 BCE), who served in the army and fell with her brother Ariobarzanes (l. 386-330 BCE) defending the Persian Gates against the forces of Alexander the Great.


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Farrokh notes “the presence of substantial numbers of women in Persian expeditionary forces” at this time and how their participation in ancient Persian warfare - “dressed and armed like men” - was noted by Roman historians (129). Farrokh continues:

Women were recruited for combat roles at critical times, one example being at Singara (343 or 344 CE), of which Libarnius reports that 'the Persians enlisted the help of their women'. This strongly suggests that Iranian women, like the menfolk, were trained in the arts of war and capable of wielding weapons when called to duty. (129)

Azadokht Shahbanu, in fact, is frequently noted as being an expert with the sword in addition to her other accomplishments, and the same reference is made to Aspas. The greatest woman warrior of the later Sassanian Empire was Apranik (d. c. 651 CE) who commanded the army against the invading Muslim-Arab forces during the reign of Yazdegerd III (632-651 CE). Her army was defeated but Apranik would not surrender and continued to fight a guerilla war against her enemies until she was killed in battle.

 

[Wehrkraftzersetzer]

as the Amazoms ANCIENT PORN